Which Aero Journal was this from? There seems to be one that was published in the late 90s early 2000s and another thats been around for the past few years, or maybe it is just the same magazine relaunched?hesham said:From Aero Journal No.5,
some Bf.109 Projects.
no no nosgeorges4 said:4 propeller karl? http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/me109/Aspera_VDM_4427.pdf
Check out the 'Me 409 - looking for info about it' thread.Sherman Tank said:Is there very much information about the original Me 155 carrier fighter project? As a naval historian I'm interested in carrier aviation projects but it's not my specialty so I don't know quite where to look and Google doesn't help much.
But anyway, the Me 409/Me 155 A project stalled out early. Surely the more interesting Messerschmitt carrier fighter project is the Me 109 S (the 'S' standing for Soufflé), work on which continued at Caudron-Renault right up to the point at which the factory was liberated in August 1944. Messerschmitt itself in Augsburg was still working on it up to that time too.Sherman Tank said:Thanks. I knew that I had seen some good information on this forum but when I checked this thread it wasn't there. Now I know why!
I have two reports on it, a French one and a German one. The drawings are all French. Maybe someone else can post them up. However, the 'Souffle' as designed was only a test vehicle. The large ventral intake required for the blown-air system meant its undercarriage wouldn't have been able to fully retract. Presumably, once the technology was tried and tested it would have been applied to some future model - perhaps a development of the Me 109 K series. Caudron-Renault estimated that it was three months away from completing the work at the point of liberation.sgeorges4 said:Do you have some other drawing or not?
I don't know of any decent article anywhere on the Me 109 S (or indeed any non-decent ones), but also I surely can't be the only person who has anything on it. If nothing else turns up, I'll write it up and get it published somewhere - but I just figured every conceivable aspect of the Me 109 had already been covered in exhaustive detail already and someone else was bound to post something up.sienar said:
Nope. The ST is the ST. The S is the S. The S has a big circular intake on its underside, as viewed from the front.Justo Miranda said:
No an air scoop for the blown air system. The radiator was repositioned under the port wing, forward of the air scoop.Justo Miranda said:
newsdeskdan said:No an air scoop for the blown air system. The radiator was repositioned under the port wing, forward of the air scoop.Justo Miranda said:newsdeskdan said:
There were some different fin and rudder designs. Especially late models used a taller one. Some were built out of wood. I've seen photos of G6 models with either small and tall fins. I recall Finland got some with the taller fin, but replaced it with the small one.sgeorges4 said:I discover a tail for the 109(for me it seem a little bit "different"):
This is just one of the later tall tails, of which there were many variations. The tail of the 109 remained practically unchanged until the G-6, sans a redesign which may have been present on a v series aircraft.sgeorges4 said:I discover a tail for the 109(for me it seem a little bit "different"):
I contacted JC Mermet and asked him about the first drawing.hesham said:From Aero Journal No.5,
some Bf.109 Projects.
According the german Text in PicturesJusto Miranda said:ST= Spezial Trägerflugzeug?
S= Bf 109 ST Ausführung A?
I refer you back to this (see below). The redesignation from Me 409 to Me 155 was some time between June 26, 1942, and July 22, 1942, and the Me 155 A, B and C split seems to have continued for most of 1942, although I can't say exactly when the 'A' and 'C' were dropped. Willy Messerschmitt ordered his agents at SNCAN and Avions Caudron to cease work on the Me 155 on February 19, 1943, and received a letter back from them shortly thereafter making excuses for why the work had not progressed as hoped. The project then seems to have been in limbo until the handover to Blohm & Voss, overseen by the RLM, on September 7, 1943 (although what B&V received had very little to do with the original Me 155!).Michel Van said:According the german Text in PicturesJusto Miranda said:ST= Spezial Trägerflugzeug?
S= Bf 109 ST Ausführung A?
Spezial Träger Jagereinsitzer = Special Carrier Hunter one seater (what a Word)
is the destination for Aircraft had operating on Graf Zeppelin Aircraft carrier
until Göring "everything what fly belog to me" crap
Messerschmitt worked on Me 109G in three variations
A - with DB 605 engine
B - with DB 628 engine for high altitude
C - With Jumo 213 engines
they change Designation to Me 155A /B /C
with new wing design for B version to reaching altitude of 14 km