Thanks for posting that! I can now extract the basic information for the Payen 361:Cy-27 said:I found this two page Payen article in the July 1943 issue of L'Air (No 532) .
My French is poor so no translation, but there are details and illustrations of the Pa.100, Pa.22, Pa.222 and Pa.361. The written detail focuses on the last two types.
It's difficult to be absolutely sure, as this "300.F" designation was unknown until now and as the "K" designation is lacking on the drawing. But visibly, this PM.300.F of 1935 seems to be an early design (and designation) of the PM.30A/K23B of 1935 (with the same Melot Ramjet too). It must be remembered too that Payen changed numerous designations of his planes over time.hesham said:and generally I want to ask if the PM.300 was the same as PM.30 or not ?.
The shape ("trumps") of the air intake is typical of the Melot early ramjet. No need of that for the other (even early) motorjets, turbojets, pulsejets or ramjets.hesham said:Thank you my dears,
and maybe the PM.300 was powered by a turbojet ?.
OK my dear Deltafan.Deltafan said:
Good question.maxmwill said:Has anyone done any analysis on the SP 190 and SP230? While at first glance they look like they'd have to fall into the sky to fly, more and more I wonder if they might just have been reasonable flyers, if a tad squirrelly. Especially the 190 as a battlefiled medevac. B)
maxmwill said:Has anyone done any analysis on the SP 190 and SP230? While at first glance they look like they'd have to fall into the sky to fly, more and more I wonder if they might just have been reasonable flyers, if a tad squirrelly. Especially the 190 as a battlefiled medevac. B)
The patent 729528 (inline engine), the SP.230 (radial engine), the SP.240 (radial engine) and the SP.190 (inline engine) where among the first drawings of M. Payen's projects (and among the first delta wings, or "ogival" wings in these cases, projects).maxmwill said:If it's such a good question, why hasn't anyone asked it until I just did?
where on the 190 was the radiator supposed to be mounted?
I know that the SP-190 was basically a paper plane(never left the drawing board), it does have the look of a potential successful flying machine, if only something of a squirrelly handful, but then, as a battlefield medevac, it'd have to be able to fly evasively when called upon to do so.