Bugatti 100 Racer and 110 Fighter Projects

blue max

ciao i' m "tracking" proj. from 1939 to 2010
Joined
Dec 27, 2009
Messages
10
Reaction score
0
many thanks 6 pages of informations
 

Pelzig

CLEARANCE: Secret
Joined
Oct 24, 2008
Messages
441
Reaction score
0
Bugatti submitted and was approved for five patents in association with the Model 100. I've found three of them which are:

UK patent GB526460 (for the engine/drivetrain)
U.S. patent 2,268,183 (for the cooling method)
U.S. patent 2,279,615 (for the trailing edge flap system)

I am aware he received a patent for the V-tail arrangement but was unable to come up with it checking the European patent search engine (or the U.S. one). It was granted by France in April 1939. I don't know what the fifth patent was for. Bugatti sure put in a ton of patents!

Any ideas? Thanks! :)
 

Razorfish

CLEARANCE: Restricted
Joined
Sep 14, 2010
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
Hi all. I'm a little late to the thread but I hope you don't mind a little story. Please set me straight if this Yank is out of line.

I build/fly RC planes and have a stack of papers a couple inches deep of ideas and sketches of mostly unusual aircraft. I just can't do "normal" planes. I came up with the plane below about a year ago. After building somebody said it looks like a Bugatti. I never heard of it and was thinking, what is this Bugatti he speaks of. I suspect I saw a picture and only my subconscious remembered. I'm definitely not the type to steal credit for something I didn't come up with. Next stage in my evil plan is to build a more scale Bugatti and not just similar.

Picture 1 & 2 are two different planes. 2nd flew really well. 5 out of 5 on straight tracking. Let's just say the 1st flew.
Picture 3 is not mine.
Last video is a scratch built sloper I found online.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IA9SsYXlk
 

Grey Havoc

The path not taken.
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2009
Messages
8,289
Reaction score
16
The Bugatti Aircraft Association have a short obituary (September 13th) up on the news section of their website regarding the passing of Jean Sibille, the last surviving member of the Bugatti 110P project team, on September 2nd, 2011, at the age of 87. RIP.
 

Grey Havoc

The path not taken.
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2009
Messages
8,289
Reaction score
16
Kim Margosein said:
With all the modification to make the Bugatti fit for military use, I am reminded of the Bf-209 (the speed record aircraft) that went down the same road. By the time you make the aircraft and engine robust enough to be useful, you're left with an aircraft with little or no advantage over off the shelf contemporary fighters.

Kim Margosein
On the other hand, since the intent was to create a pursuit and/or a 'chasseur reconnaissense' fighter, the design team might have ended up going with an approach similar to the Japanese Zero, i.e. sacrificing armor and firepower in return for speed, maneuverability and range/endurance. Although they probably would have given the 110P self-sealing tanks as long as the weight penalty wasn't too severe.
 

2IDSGT

Ah tale yew wut!
Joined
Nov 27, 2012
Messages
371
Reaction score
0
Interesting story.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/?p=1914
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Model_100
http://iflyblog.com/2012/10/04/the-bugatti-100p-reviving-a-ghost/



Fortunately, someone is building a full-scale replica to fly. I'll be curious to know if the design can really make it to 550 mph with fix-pitch props. Lots of pictures on the project's Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/TheBugatti100pProject





 

Jemiba

CLEARANCE: Above Top Secret
Staff member
Top Contributor
Senior Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2006
Messages
7,955
Reaction score
13
Don't worry, it isn't often that easy ! The title of the older thread was "Bugatti 110 fighter", but it mainly
dealt with the actually built 100.
 

lark

CLEARANCE: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Messages
1,780
Reaction score
1
There's a new book in the making about the Bugatti 100P.
'The Bugatti 100P Record Plane'
Created by Etore Bugatti and Louis de Monge.

written by Jaap Horst-240pp
Due for publishing Jan. 2013 by Lanasta in the Netherlands.

Perhaps the definitive history about this beauty..
 

2IDSGT

Ah tale yew wut!
Joined
Nov 27, 2012
Messages
371
Reaction score
0
Video on the flying replica build.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9A4Fx1SBQc
 

robunos

You're Mad, You Are.....
Senior Member
Joined
May 1, 2007
Messages
1,728
Reaction score
0
There's a nice article here :-

http://oldmachinepress.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/bugatti-model-100p-racer/

with some pictures of the restored airframe.

cheers,
Robin.
 

Stargazer2006

CLEARANCE: Above Top Secret
Staff member
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2009
Messages
13,244
Reaction score
10
An appeal has been made for crowd-funding a real-life flying Bugatti 100P.

More details here:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19041.0
 

Charlesferdinand

amateur theologian
Joined
Oct 24, 2013
Messages
25
Reaction score
1
Apparently, there has been a roll out of the plane recently. I only saw a photo and a short notice in a French aviation magazine, does anyone know more?
 

perttime

I really did change my personal text
Joined
Mar 30, 2013
Messages
105
Reaction score
0
They've been updating their Facebook page with latest news, pretty frequently:
https://www.facebook.com/TheBugatti100pProject
 

Stargazer2006

CLEARANCE: Above Top Secret
Staff member
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2009
Messages
13,244
Reaction score
10
As part of the revived interest in the Bugatti projects, a whole new comic book entitled Firehawks, featuring Bugatti fighters, has made its debut in the online Aces Weekly magazine, created by David Lloyd, of V for Vendetta fame. Firehawks is written and illustrated by no less than veteran Marvel Comics artist Herb Trimpe, who made a name for himself by illustrating over 100 issues of The Incredible Hulk and created graphically such famous characters as Wolverine and Captain Britain (he also did the G.I. Joe, Godzilla, Transformers and Shogun Warriors comics for Marvel, among many others).

Firehawks seems to be fun. However, the coloring job seems to be awful! Anyway, you can more info on the Aces Weekly website.

Original black and white version of the story (much better I think) can be purchased from Jaap Horst in the Netherlands.
 

Attachments

kagyman

CLEARANCE: Restricted
Joined
Sep 20, 2009
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
This months Octane Magazine (May 2014) has an article on the replica.
 

MaxLegroom

Why not?
Joined
Dec 28, 2013
Messages
132
Reaction score
1
This brought back some memories for me. One of my setups for Flight Simulator 2004 included the Bugatti 100 racer, and scenery to go with it. It was incredible. Seems I've found it again" http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?67800-Bugatti-Adventures
 

SlickDriver

CLEARANCE: Confidential
Joined
Jun 20, 2006
Messages
162
Reaction score
0
Bugatti 100P to fly

Am not sure where this belongs. A 1939 Bugatti 100P is getting ready for it's maiden flight.


http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/8/9118119/bugatti-100p-reve-blue-kickstarter-first-flight
 

Creative

CLEARANCE: Secret
Joined
Feb 15, 2008
Messages
241
Reaction score
0
First Flight!

https://www.facebook.com/TheBugatti100pProject/photos/a.265365623540584.60202.261574317253048/843354212408386/?type=1

In keeping with our Full-Disclosure policy, here is my summation of our first flight experience:

We intended this flight to be limited to a short hop down the runway to check power required/power available and to check control responsiveness in all three axes. Preflight preparation and before-takeoff checks were normal. Takeoff was normal and at a predetermined reduced power (80%) setting; takeoff roll was 3000 feet and I became airborne at 90 knots. I climbed to 100 AGL to check power and control responsiveness. The plane responded as expected to all power changes and control inputs. Maximum airspeed was 110 knots.

I reduced power for landing but the airplane floated much more than we anticipated. I landed further down the runway than planned but with sufficient distance to stop the plane. Unfortunately, I lost the right brake and the airplane departed the left side of the runway at slow speed. Due to heavy rains the night before, the ground was soft and the airplane tipped upward on its nose, damaging the spinner and both props.

Such is the nature of flight testing a new design. The relevant news is we successfully flew the Bugatti 100P for the first time. The plane flew beautifully.

We’ll share more photos, video, and data with you in the coming days.
 

Attachments

Stargazer2006

CLEARANCE: Above Top Secret
Staff member
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2009
Messages
13,244
Reaction score
10
Fantastic news!! Hope they repair it soon.
 

Creative

CLEARANCE: Secret
Joined
Feb 15, 2008
Messages
241
Reaction score
0
Video of first flight and landing aftermath on their facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/TheBugatti100pProject/videos/843683509042123/
 

blackkite

Don't laugh, don't cry, don't even curse, but.....
Joined
May 31, 2007
Messages
5,583
Reaction score
25
Hi! I can see two radiator shape.

https://sobchak.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/cutaway-bugatti-model-100-racer/
Robin-san's contribution.
https://oldmachinepress.com/2012/11/01/bugatti-model-100p-racer/

http://www.bugattirevue.com/revue3/rev3-2.htm

http://www.bugattirevue.com/revue4/plane.htm
"Figure 1 shows the flaps in the normal cruise position, triggered by moderate airspeed and manifold pressure. When the sensors picked up low airspeed and high manifold pressure, the flaps would be set in the takeoff/climb position, figure 2, increasing the lift of the wing. At max. power and high airspeed, the drag would be decreased to a minimum, figure 3. Less lift would be available, but not needed at this high speed. Fig. 4 shows the dive brake position, triggered by high air speed and low power. For landing the flaps operated to increase lift and drag, figure 5, while the top flap would rise while applyng the brakes, after landing (Fig.6). "

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/348404-bugatti-model-110p-french-superprop/
 

Attachments

Foo Fighter

I came, I saw, I drank some tea (and had a bun).
Joined
Jul 19, 2016
Messages
682
Reaction score
0
https://www.flyingmag.com/pilot-killed-in-crash-bugatti-100p-replica
 

Archibald

CLEARANCE: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 6, 2006
Messages
2,177
Reaction score
7
Yes I've heard of that crash. It is heartbreaking. As a Frenchman I feel twice concerned.

First, because in the 80's, one of the last four existing Dewoitine D-520 was restored to flying status. On a sad day of July 1986, it crashed, killing pilot Christian Bove, who had been the driving force behind the project.

Second, because there is another Dewoitine to fly soon: a D-551 is being build from zero in Toulouse. Hopefully it won't crash like this...
http://replicair.fr/avions/dewoitine-d551/
 

Foo Fighter

I came, I saw, I drank some tea (and had a bun).
Joined
Jul 19, 2016
Messages
682
Reaction score
0
A real shame those accidents. In the case of the Bugatti, perhaps it was too complex an aircraft for such a small team to recreate. All those propshafts with universal joints for a start and the coolant system, a real monster.
 

Schneiderman

CLEARANCE: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2012
Messages
1,173
Reaction score
27
1920s and 1930s racing and record aircraft placed high demands on the pilots and a great many were on the very edge of flyable. Recreating them is not something to be taken lightly and unfortunately there have been too many fatal crashes. Supermarine S5r, Hughes H-1, Bugatti 100 and no doubt others.
 
Top