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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #90 on: February 07, 2014, 04:16:17 am »
Hi,


here is a little known French aircraft projects,the Antares by Jean Angeli and
the Delma by Delambre et Maingon;


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6576024m/f5.image

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #91 on: February 07, 2014, 05:14:35 am »
I moved the Barbaro types to the appropriate topic.

Please always make sure that a dedicated topic doesn't exist before posting to these generic threads, which only exist as a temporary place for lack of more information. When a manufacturer or a type is sufficiently documented it gets its own page, and we already have a Barbaro page in the "Aerospace" section:


http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12377.0/all.html

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #92 on: February 07, 2014, 02:05:18 pm »
Drawing of the Richard-Penhoët 2, from the Spanish magazine Aérea, April 1924.


Great find my dear C460,and that drawing differed from the aircraft actually built.

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #93 on: February 08, 2014, 04:30:32 am »
More on the Duverne-Saran bimoteur from, I think, an issue of l'Aéro dating from the 1930s.


My dear Avion,


here is anther article from Les Ailes journal.


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6553900t/f3.image

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #94 on: February 08, 2014, 05:22:00 am »
Hi,


I found an article about Diesel engines and a strange aircraft,created by Rexovice
et Botali,but in Trait d'Union magazine,they wrote it as; Botali-Rexonice,it was a
record breaker aircraft,I don't know the right,Rexovice or Rexonice ?.


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6553911m/f5.image

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #95 on: February 08, 2014, 02:44:22 pm »
... I don't know the right,Rexovice or Rexonice ?.

Yes, it was Botali and Rexovice. Seen as Rexovice-Botali here: http://www.aeroteca.com/motoraz/indexaz.pdf

Does anyone know who these guys were? I'm assuming the latter was pilot André Rexovice (seen as 'A. Rescovice' here: http://aviateur-pharabod.monsite-orange.fr/page5/index.html ) But who was Botali?


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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #96 on: February 08, 2014, 04:08:59 pm »
Thank you my dear Apophenia,


and no more info about Botali on Internet.

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #97 on: February 09, 2014, 09:25:46 am »
Anyone know how many Salmson Moineau S.M.1 were completed? Sources vary between a couple of prototypes and all 155 ordered. Some sources even have them in operational use as night bombers in 1918!
A bit late answering this. According to 'French Aircraft of World War One' by Davilla & Soltan, at least 155 aircraft were built.
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At least one machine, belonging to  AR 289, was still in use in 1918. This S.M.1 flew reconnaissance in support of the 66e Division des Chasseurs a Pied until late 1918.

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #98 on: February 09, 2014, 03:59:17 pm »
and no more info about Botali on Internet.

One possible connection is the Botali-du Riveau PAMA type 1 motoplaneur
http://www.aviafrance.com/botali-du-riveau-p-a-m-a-type-1-aviation-france-10222.htm

And there was a M. Botalli (two Ls) who seems to have been an aeronautical engineer.

http://archive.org/stream/la02b9eronautiqu04pari/la02b9eronautiqu04pari_djvu.txt
L'Aeronautique 132 and 166 - Here Botalli is associated with the engineering of a monoplane tourer designed by Baron Edmond de Marçay (with a long-term association between Botalli and de Marçay implied). There is also mention of a Botalli radiator design for the Hanriot H-26.

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #99 on: February 09, 2014, 04:07:10 pm »
Thank you my dear Apophenia.

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #100 on: February 10, 2014, 04:56:14 am »
Hi,


here is the Deckert et Desbenoit three seat high-wing pusher amphibian
project,which was powered by a car motor,all details are here;


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65546997/f8.image

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #101 on: February 10, 2014, 12:44:42 pm »
It's hard at times to tell which designs were actual projects and which were merely hypothetical...

Here is an illustration for Jacques Lacasse's 1948 Technique de l'air. It shows a very interesting blended-wing project (I'm posting it here as I believe it is earlier than the publication of the book, but I could be wrong — I do not own the book myself).

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #102 on: February 12, 2014, 06:07:09 am »
One of the delights of the pre-war issues of les Ailes is that the editor would feature what we now regard as flights of fancy, however improbable and fantastic they might have seemed at the time. But it must be conceded that this remark is an ex post facto judgment - and with the benefit of hindsight, it's very easy to make such a remark. What must be remembered is that in the twenties and thirties - particularly in France - aviation technology was advancing by leaps and bounds, almost on a daily basis, and it is was a time when almost anything seemed possible. Thus what might seem fantastical one day could be the norm the next. I'm sure that there once was a time, in the not too far distant past, when the concept of jet engines, supersonic speed, aeroplanes capable of carrying 850 passengers, space travel and the like would have been considered fantastical - and when any publication carrying articles by those propounding these ideas might have been decried. Today's projects sometimes become tomorrow's reality! 
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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #103 on: February 13, 2014, 04:40:06 am »
Hi,


the S. Poite Type-3 was a low-wing two-seat light tourist aircraft,powered by
one 95 hp Renault engine.


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6555780s/f3.image

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Re: Little-known French projects and prototypes
« Reply #104 on: February 13, 2014, 05:13:52 am »
Hi,


here is the Maurice Brion fighter,it was a single seat fighter biplane,and put the
upper wing behind the cockpit to make a good vision for the pilot,the aircraft
mention in Les Ailes journal and in Trait d'Union magazine also,may be intended
for 1930 C.1 contest,we know about 31 to 32 entries competed in this competition,
many of them remained a drawing board only.


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65537145/f6.image