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Thanks a lot. Incredible work as usual!! :D
 

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Hi! Tour in OAO Aviation complex. S.V. Ilyushin.
http://andrey-valuev.livejournal.com/4931348.html
You can see Il-30 model and Il-28P model in top and middle of the third picture.

Another site.
http://toyota-club.net/files/lib/z_st/09-02-20_lib_il.htm
 

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Hi! Il-22 and Il-24.

http://xn--80aafy5bs.xn--p1ai/aviamuseum/aviatsiya/sssr/bombardirovshhiki-2/bombard-1920-e-1940-e-gody/frontovoj-bombardirovshhik-il-22/

http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft22032.htm
http://www.ilyushin.org/press/news/ev2390/?print=y
http://arsenal-info.ru/b/book/1125763788/34
"The IL-24 front bomber project remained unimplemented, with the predecessor's image, but with two more powerful UM TKRD-01 engines. The EI Expert Commission first approved the proposal in May 1947, but after a year the prototype was abandoned. A machine that is not equipped to operate from the ground airfields has been overburdened. Mass construction of runways with existing airfields at the time, the country could not afford.

At the same time, the option with four more promising English turbojet "Ning" was also considered. But he was still on paper."
 

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Top to bottom....
Front bomber, Training version and Naval version.
And front bomber sharp three side view.
Actual wing root shape and cockpit shape are little different from model wing root shape and cockpit shape.
And this three side view drawing has no outer wing fence.

http://www.airwar.ru/other/shawrov/htmls/glava03.html

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bomber/il54.html
This site says that crew are three. But I can see small window behind the pilot. What is this?
"The crew of the aircraft - three people: a pilot, navigator and stern-shooter-radio operator, housed in two (front and rear) hermetic cabs. The pilot and the navigator entered the plane through a small door on the right side of the fuselage, and the shooter through the lower hatch of his cockpit. Between the cabs of the navigator and the pilot there was a passage allowing them to communicate with each other in flight. All crew members jobs had a strong armor protection. If there is an emergency in the flight, the MPA crew leaves the plane with the help of ejection seats, while the pilot catches up, and the navigator and the shooter - down. In case of an emergency landing on the water, all crew members could leave the plane through the upper hatches of their cabins and use the automatically disengaged rescue boat LAS-5M.

The defensive armament of the aircraft consisted of three guns, which had a high rate of fire and the power of a second volley. The front hemisphere was protected by a stationary gun, mounted on the left side of the fuselage. Two mobile cannons were installed in the stern of a remotely controlled turret, the combat qualities of which were significantly improved in comparison with the previously used defensive installations. The weight of the maximum bomb load of the IL-54 aircraft is 5000 kg."
 

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Hi!
Also increase span? Wing sweep back angle decrease? Pilot cockpit height increase? Flap shape is different? Ventral radar size is different?
Fuselage cross section shape is different?

Technical Specifications IL-54 http://www.dogswar.ru/oryjeinaia-ekzotika/aviaciia/5311-opytnyi-dalnii-bomba.html
Wingspan, M 17.65, Length, M 28.96, Height, M 7.90, Area of wing, M2 2.50
Mass, kg, -Empty aircraft 24000, -Normal flight 40660, -Maximum Flight 41600
Engine Type 2 turbojet al-7f, Traction, CSC, -Nonforcing 2 x 6500, -Forcing 2 x 10000
Speed, km/h, -Maximum height at 1250, -Maximum land at 1155, -Cruiser 910
Flight range, km 3000, Run-up, M 1075, Mileage, M 1150
Practical ceiling, M 14000
Crew, person 3
Armament: 3 x 23 mm HP-23 or 2 23 mm cannons TKB-4957: To protect the front hemisphere, one fixed front cannon installed on the left side of the fuselage; In the tail of the aircraft, a stern cannons installation (IL-K8) with a remote hydraulic drive of two mobile cannons. Internal suspension bombing: normal-3000 kg, maximum-5000 kg.

Another information.
http://alternathistory.com/opytnyi-frontovoi-bombardirovshchik-il-54-sssr
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/strange_vehicles/ilyushin_il-54_blowlamp.html
http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft30900.htm
 

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Terribly sorry. Perhaps I made a big mistake.
I think that this drawing is not reliable.
Engine interval is too large compared with actual Il-54 front view picture.
Engine interval/engine nacelle outer diameter=7.5, I think this value is 6.17.
Fuselage cross section is not circular nevertheless pressurized cabin.
 

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I believe that this is a correct Il-54 three side view drawing.
Cockpit is small compared with actual Il-54 side view picture. Because this drawing shows No.2 prototype.
Wing sweep back angle is around 58°. Little large?
Horizontal and vertical tail stabilizer shape are good compared with actual side view picture.
(Please check page 153 of "OKB ILYUSHIN" if you have. You can see very rare IL-54 No.2 prototype picture with different cockpit shape compared with No.1 prototype and no outboard wing fence.)
I want to see Il-54 No.1 prototype three side view drawing.
 

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Perhaps this side view shows IL-54 No.1 prototype.
I imagine that IL-54 No.1 prototype wing sweep back angle is 55°. No.2 prototype wing sweep back angle is 58° and no outboard wing fence.
Perhaps ventral fin was added after flight test.
 

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Hi! I believe that these drawings nearly shows IL-54 No.1 prototype(wing tip wheel retractable direction is old, and overall length is little short?) and No.2 prototype or unbuilt final plan.(Almost same scale)
Perhaps No.2 prototype or unbuilt final plan wing span is smaller than No.1 prototype wing span.

http://www.airwar.ru/other/shawrov/htmls/glava03.html

I believe that there is a rare IL-54 second prototype flying picture in Jane's all the world's aircraft in 1956-1957 or 1958-1959.
Someone has this volume? Perhaps copyright is over.


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Hi! IL-18.

http://xn--80aafy5bs.xn--p1ai/aviamuseum/aviatsiya/sssr/transportno-passazhirskie-samolety/1945-g-1991-g/samolety-okb-ilyushina/dalnemagistralnyj-passazhirskij-samolet-il-18-2/dalnemagistralnyj-passazhirskij-samolet-il-18-pervyj/

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aliner/il18_1.html

http://russos.livejournal.com/519767.html

http://airliner.narod.ru/1unsucces/il-18p.htm

"Wingspan, M 41.10, Length of aircraft, M 29.86, Height of the plane, M 9.40, Area of wing, M2 140.0
Mass, kg : Empty aircraft 28490, Normal Flight 42500, Maximum Flight 47500
Type of engine 4 of the Al-73tk, Power, HP 4 x 2400
Maximum speed, km/h 565, Cruising speed, km/h 450
Practical range, km 4000, Practical Ceiling, M 9000
Crew, Person 5-6
Payload: Up to 66 passengers or 28 beds or 90 paratroopers and up to 7600 kg of cargo
Number of production : 1, First flight-17 August 1946"
 

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ucon said:
Hi, guys!
One of the very early Il-12 double-tailed project with ACh-31 engines. Note the shape of the fuselage nose part - it was used than in Il-18 (1947)
in my files;

the early Il-12 Project had a four engines,does any one hear or got a drawing to this
design ?.
 

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Thank you my dear Borovik,

and it was from 1944.
 

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Hi,

also the early design Project of Il-18 was a four engined aircraft in 1945.
 

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Also in my files,

there was a Project version of Il-28,had a swept wing shape.
 

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hesham said:
Also in my files,

there was a Project version of Il-28,had a swept wing shape.
That was the Il-30 which was completed but never flown owing to concerns over the structural strength of the wings.
 

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Hood said:
hesham said:
Also in my files,

there was a Project version of Il-28,had a swept wing shape.
That was the Il-30 which was completed but never flown owing to concerns over the structural strength of the wings.
No my dear Hood,

it a Project version called Il-28S.
 

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Hi,

was there any Info about Il-576 ?.
 

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For this thread,

we can't divide it into pieces,because it has many subjects,most of them only one post
or two.

In my files,

there was two version of Il-98,and not one,maybe had different shapes.
 

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hesham said:
Also in my files,

there was a Project version of Il-28,had a swept wing or arrow wing shape.
It was called Il-28S,a Project for front bomber with two VK-5 engines.

http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/57/
 

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why they are 'unbuilt'?
 

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So I have two Il-38 drawings. Landing gear shape is different.
Explanation of top drawing is as follows. http://alternathistory.com/proekty-frontovykh-bombardirovshchikov-il-38-i-il-42-sssr
"At the insistence of SV Ilyushin, IL-38 was carried out in triple. Defensive weapons were the same as Il-28: two HP-23 guns protected the front hemisphere, and the Il-K6 feeder with two HP-23 covered the rear hemisphere. The main support of the chassis was four - under each of the nacelles there were two supports. They had one wheel each and retracted one forward, the other back. At the same time, the wheels were rotated 90 ° and laid flat into the lower part of the nacelle.
The bomber project received a positive evaluation from the customer, who, however, deemed it necessary to improve the aircraft's take-off data by installing more powerful engines."

I think that the second drawing is incorrect.

- Tony Buttler & Yefim Gordon, Soviet Secret Projects Bombers Since 1945 (Midland Publishing, 2004), pp. #30-31

The Il-30 had a sequel shape of a project designated Il-38, which was a twin engined bomber powered by two TR-3 engines. It retained the Il-30's basic shape and carried the same bomb load but different from its predecessor in having smaller dimensions, a lower weight and a revised defensive armament borrowed from the Il-28 (comprising two forward-firing NR-23 cannon supplemented by the Il-K6 tail turret with two NR-23 cannon). There were three crew and the bicycle undercarriage gave way to a tricycle arrangement which differed from the Il-28, being more along the lines of that used on the Il-46 except that the twin wheels on each main leg were moved further apart to either side of the nacelle; this arrangement resulted in the characteristic low sit of the aircraft on the ground.
The project drew favorable comment from the Air Force but the military wished to see an improved airfield performance through the use of more powerful engines.
 

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From Аэрокосмическое обозрение 2005 06,

the IL-114 recce and air surveillance drawings.
 

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