BAe P.1216 book: harrier.org.uk/P1216.htm
- Dec 21, 2006
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Typhoon, Rafale, F-15...presumably a SU-57 order will follow!
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dubai-raf-talks-up-typhoon-interoperability-with-f-443219/As interest in fifth-generation fighters builds in the UAE, a top Royal Air Force officer explained at the show how the Eurofighter Typhoon is already demonstrating how a non-stealthy fighter can integrate with the Lockheed Martin F-35 in contested airspace.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/eurofighter-powers-up-typhoon-production-for-kuwait-444148/Kuwait's future fleet of Typhoons remains on track for introduction from 2019, with the first major parts now in production by the Eurofighter partner companies.
Is there going to be a competition? I know Airbus was threatening Germany the other day about going for the F-35 in the strike role. Shouldn't the Typhoon be able to stand on its merits sans threats?Hood said:Airbus and Eurofighter are offering an upgraded Typhoon with increased thrust EJ200s and Euroradar Captor-E AESA radar to replace Germany's Tornados from 2025.
So, "no" to there being a competition? I wonder why.mrmalaya said:Airbus were being fairly logical for a change, although it was only the flip side of the argument that Germany is undermining NATO if it doesn't go for the F35.
You'd think they'd forgo this for at least, if not buying, then building their own next-gen jet.Arjen said:There are the political and economical dimensions of keeping an iron in the fire with fast jets.
That next-gen jet is not going to be ready in 2025 - when Tornado needs replacing. Germany needs to decide, a major consideration is keeping its manufacturing abilities alive. Among others, to be able to build that next-gen jet.sferrin said:You'd think they'd forgo this for at least, if not buying, then building their own next-gen jet.
LM are offering the F-35 anyway, with a lead time of three years. They see the F-35 as a complimentary asset to Typhoon (not an unrealistic claim given the dual RAF fleet) and a "leg up" to European industry.sferrin said:So, "no" to there being a competition? I wonder why.
very goodHe argues that “lessons must be learned” from the Europrop International TP400 – Europe's latest military engine programme, which powers the Airbus A400M tactical transport – and that a new development effort should be planned without "too tight" a schedule, under which "milestones will be missed".
Anyone else with the word "adaptative" in mind?Central for a new engine programme will be the development of more heat-resistant materials, which will require less cooling air from the gas path and offer increased efficiency, and variable-cycle engine technology, Schreyögg says. He notes that variable geometries in the compressor and turbine will be required to provide a future aircraft with maximum thrust in combat situations, along with versatility and efficiency in less demanding conditions.
It's too late to get workshare on the F-35 program... Except -- I really don't know why Germany (and/or France) doesn't get the opportunity to buy out some or all of Turkey's membership status and resulting offsets and production/maintenance portions. Make Turkey whole through structured payments and assume their workshare.Arjen said:That next-gen jet is not going to be ready in 2025 - when Tornado needs replacing. Germany needs to decide, a major consideration is keeping its manufacturing abilities alive. Among others, to be able to build that next-gen jet.sferrin said:You'd think they'd forgo this for at least, if not buying, then building their own next-gen jet.
oh yes i had my Haddock moment reading that linesferrin said:
enhancements earmarked include upgrades to the E-Scan radar now being developed; long-range and standoff weapons; enhanced defensive aids; improvements to the efficiency and power output of the EJ200 engines (he cited a 15% increase in power); as well as enhancements related to the suppression of enemy air defences (SEAD)
The past 12 months have seen a momentous shift in the UK’s combat aircraft balance, with Royal Air Force (RAF) Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4s having received new ground-attack weapons, its last Panavia Tornado GR4s retiring and the type’s successor – the Lockheed Martin F-35B – conducting its first operational missions in the Middle East.