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Hi! I got this drawing in 2008 AEROSPACE JAPAN. Enjoy.
 

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Second data.
 

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Third data.
 

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And final data. I surprised very much to know that Typhoon is Mach 1.3 - 1.5 super cruiser. And has good kill ratio to Su-35.
 

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"I surprised very much to know that Typhoon is Mach 1.3 - 1.5 super cruiser. And has good kill
ratio to Su-35."

The Typhoon CAN supercruise, although I don't know in which configuration ( clean, with some
AA missiles or even with tanks on ? Surely not in an attack configuration, as the F 22 can) and
it probably CAN shoot down a Su-35, that's what it was built for.
But all those comparisons always remind me on a cartoon in one of Roy Braybrooks column from
AirInternational 1980 ... ;)

Not to be misunderstood, but comparing aircraft, especially combat aircraft, just by data from a
brochure has been misleading quite often in the past, I think.
 

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http://cgi.ebay.com/Eurofighter-Typhoon-2003-Development-Flight-Manual-/260761796078?pt=UK_Collectables_Aeronautica_MJ&hash=item3cb69d3dee#ht_500wt_1156

Cool thing to own...
 

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For starters, there are four separate governments involved in decisions concerning Eurofighter Typhoon. This will slow down any process.

Secondly, it was claimed as recently as 2008 that CAPTOR-M offered advantages in some areas when compared with early AESA's:
Though electronically scanned radars offer faster scan rates, with search and track times up to one third quicker than those of mechanically scanned radars, the Captor-M enjoys significant advantages in range and azimuth coverage, and especially in range at the edges of the scan, where energy losses inherent in phase shifting can dramatically reduce the range performance of an AESA radar.
I leave it to the experts to judge if those claims had merit; if so, for how long.

Thirdly, it worked with a finite investment of time and money.

Time seems to have caught up with CAPTOR-M.
 

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Well, that too.
 

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Via the Daily Telegraph:
ORIGINAL CAPTION: The 100th Eurofighter plane is seen behind a water shield during a ceremony to hand over the plane to the German Air Force in Manching, southern Germany
Picture: GUENTER SCHIFFMANN/AFP/Getty Images
 

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BBC documentary Eurofighter: Weapon of Mass Construction

http://youtu.be/CyKClEx_pWk

http://youtu.be/P9GOf3wa6c4
 

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Here from a magazine add, I present a picture of a land-based Tranche 3 Eurofighter Typhoon in Luftwaffe markings with CFTs, Meteor missiles, IRIS-T missiles, a targeting pod and smart bombs HOPE/HOSBO.
If I ever see this aircraft in real, it will be way after 2020. ;)
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxLg2iRkOdQ

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-23296285
 

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EDIT:
For the records, first flight of the Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 3 (ZK355, BS116) took place last Monday, December 2th 2013. The 2nd flight was on the following Wednesday.
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http://theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Typhoon-T3.jpg
 

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"Eurofighter Typhoon in new, special Tiger Livery is freaking awesome"
Jun 05 2014
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Ahead of the Tiger Meet later this month, Bavarian Tigers have unveiled the very first Eurofighter Typhoon in complete Tiger livery.

NATO Tiger Meet (NTM) is an annual multinational exercise that gathers squadrons sporting Tiger (or feline) emblems. Among the highlights of the meeting, is the fact that combat planes and helicopters often sport spectacular color schemes, making the event a treat for all aviation enthusiasts.

Bavarian Tigers, founded on Mar. 18, 2013, by the 741 and 742 squadrons of the German Air Force’s Jagdgeschwader 74 in Neuburg, that took over the Tiger Spirit from the 321 Squadron / Jagdbombergeschwader 32, will take part to this year’s NTM (with spotters days on Jun. 19 and 23) at Schleswig – Jagel, in northern Germany.

To celebrate the attendance to the NTM2014, the Fighterwing 74 has painted one of its Eurofighters with an awesome, flamboyant tiger outfit.

Image credit: Bavarian Tigers/German Air Force

Let’s hope the cool paint job will survive at least for some mission: last year, one of the Polish Air Force F-16 Block 52+ was given a special paint, most of which, unfortunately, peeled away during the ferry flight to Orland, Norway, that hosted the NTM2013.
 

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11057330/German-fighter-jets-unable-to-fly-and-mechanics-forced-to-borrow-spare-parts-claims-magazine.html

Par for the course with the Merkel government. [sighs]
 

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New aerodynamic upgrade kit for the Eurofighter! B)
It entails primarily the addition of fuselage strakes and leading-edge root extensions, which increase the maximum lift created by the wing by 25% - resulting in an increased turn rate, tighter turning radius, and improved nose-pointing ability at low speed – all critical fighter capabilities in air-to-air combat.
Link: http://www.airbusgroup.com/int/en/news-media/press-releases/Airbus-Group/Financial_Communication/2015/07/20150715_airbus_defence_and_space_eurofighter_aerodynamic_upgrades.html
 

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Would this also suggest that current variant of eurofighter is somewhat behind rafale in certain aspects of maneuverability? like low speed nose turning, subsonic sustained turn rate, etc?
 

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totoro said:
Would this also suggest that current variant of eurofighter is somewhat behind rafale in certain aspects of maneuverability? like low speed nose turning, subsonic sustained turn rate, etc?
I'm wondering what the point of this expense would be. Is it enough to enable it to outmaneuver a HOBS missile? Nope. Is it enough to prevent an adversary from getting a shot off with a 5th gen HOBS missile (the kind with full spherical coverage)? Nope. Sounds more like a desperate marketing gimmick to squeeze out a few more sales. Objectively, and realistically, what added capability does this give? If anybody thought this kind of incremental upgrade in maneuverability was worth it we'd see 3D TVC on everything, canards on F-15s, and AFTI F-16 configurations flying. We don't. Even the Russians ditched the canards on their latest Flanker version.
 

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Alternatively its a cheap and effective way to enhance the aircraft's performance with a wide range of weapons underwing and across the flight envelope.
 

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Devices like that obviously increase Clmax and therefore reduce take-off distances and approach speeds. Hmmm....
 

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shedofdread said:
Devices like that obviously increase Clmax and therefore reduce take-off distances and approach speeds. Hmmm....
So let's build 40 carrier versions. That'll be cheap. ;)
 

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A carrier version would be kindof neat - an alternative to the JSF?

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Yes, but the Russians are putting 3d TVC on everything...
The Russians are hardly "everybody". And two aircraft do not constitute "everything".
Well, obviously it is a bit more complicated. The Su-34 retained the canards for takeoff performance, that Su-30, Su-35, Mig-35 and PAK-FA all have TVC...


But I basically agree with you.
 

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sferrin said:
shedofdread said:
Devices like that obviously increase Clmax and therefore reduce take-off distances and approach speeds. Hmmm....
So let's build 40 carrier versions. That'll be cheap. ;)

Quite... ;) But who's paying for this work package (it won't be being done speculatively)? That might point to why it's believed to be needed.
 

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shedofdread said:
sferrin said:
shedofdread said:
Devices like that obviously increase Clmax and therefore reduce take-off distances and approach speeds. Hmmm....
So let's build 40 carrier versions. That'll be cheap. ;)

Quite... ;) But who's paying for this work package (it won't be being done speculatively)? That might point to why it's believed to be needed.
Does anybody actually believe it's needed? As Boeing's "Silent Eagle" and "Silent Hornet" show, a lot of the time there is no need, the manufacturer is just trying to drum up sales and convince people there is a need.
 

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Avimimus said:
Well, obviously it is a bit more complicated. The Su-34 retained the canards for takeoff performance, that Su-30, Su-35, Mig-35 and PAK-FA all have TVC...
Canards appeared on the descendants of Su-27 because the center of gravity shifted forward.
 

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[quote author=sferrin]
Sounds more like a desperate marketing gimmick to squeeze out a few more sales. Objectively, and realistically, what added capability does this give? If anybody thought this kind of incremental upgrade in maneuverability was worth it we'd see 3D TVC on everything, canards on F-15s, and AFTI F-16 configurations flying. We don't. Even the Russians ditched the canards on their latest Flanker version.
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Probably more just keeping some of the German team in jobs.

Worth noting that none of the partner nations are buying this. The money is going into weapons integration, AESA and building aeroplanes.
 

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It's being included in the upcoming P4E negotiations so not something that partners are going to hand out cash for at the moment.
 

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Topic relevance? You remember, the Typhoon? Removed some off topic posts.
 
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Typhoons have always had the option of LERX since the 2007 test. The benefits have already been proven.
 

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Published on Feb 25, 2015

A news feature from British Forces Broadcast Service on Typhoon's improving multi-role capabilities. Discussing the latest Stormshadow missile upgrades, Will Inglis visited our Warton site to discuss these new features with our pilots and Andy Flynn, head of Typhoon capability.

https://youtu.be/fAtCtCOnkEs
 

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On a related note: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11866000/New-fighter-pilot-helmet-removes-need-for-night-vision.html
 

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kaiserd said:
Grey Havoc said:
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2016/04/04/kuwait-may-finalize-eurofighter-deal-source-says/82610114/
Returning the favour, confirmation deal signed:
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2016/04/05/kuwait-signs-eurofighter-deal/82647386/
Kuwait has ordered its aircraft equipped with an electronically scanned radar, which is being developed for the aircraft but has yet to be adopted by Eurofighters operated by the four launch partners on the program — Italy, the UK, Germany and Spain.

The radar is being developed by the European EuroRADAR consortium which is led by Finmeccanica.
 

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"Qatar Signs Letter of Intent for Eurofighters"
Sep 17, 2017 Tony Osborne | Aerospace Daily & Defense Report

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http://aviationweek.com/defense/qatar-signs-letter-intent-eurofighters

LONDON—Qatar has signed a long-awaited letter of intent (LOI) to purchase up 24 Eurofighter Typhoons, further bolstering the planned fighter fleet of the tiny Gulf state.

In a surprise move, British Defense Minister Michael Fallon and his Qatari counterpart, Khalid bin Mohammad Al Attiyah, signed the deal in Doha on Sept 17.

Qatari officials say that the agreement, which will solidify the defense cooperation and commitment between the two countries, will also lay the groundwork for “Qatar’s intentions toward procuring 24 advanced Eurofighter Typhoons and supporting capabilities.”

“After a number of years of negotiations between our two countries, I am delighted to have been able to sign today with Qatar’s defense minister this Statement of Intent on the purchase of 24 Typhoon aircraft by Qatar,” said Fallon.

He called the deal with Qatar an “important moment” in the defense relationship between the two countries.

“We also hope that this will help enhance security within the region across all Gulf allies and enhance Typhoon interoperability across the [Gulf Cooperation Council],” he added.

The LOI suggests that Qatar aims to curry favor by purchasing fighters from its three Western allies. It ordered 24 Dassault Rafales from France and made a Foreign Military Sales request from the U.S. for up to 72 Boeing F-15QA fighters, although Doha has ultimately settled on purchasing 36 of the aircraft.

Jointly, the three types will replace the 12 Mirage 2000s Qatar currently uses for air defense missions.

Several of the first batch of Qatari Rafales on order are now flying in France.

The growth of the Qatar Emiri Air Force is unprecedented, potentially boosting the air arm’s front-line fleet from the current 12 to 84 fighters of three different types. Although Qatar is not short of money, thanks to its huge deposits of natural gas, operating three different advanced fighters could create a logistics headache for such a small air arm. However, the move clearly sends a potent message, particularly given that Qatar is facing an air, land and sea blockade from its neighbors over its alleged support to terrorist groups across the Middle East.

If turned into a contract, an order for 24 Typhoons will be a significant lifeline to the Eurofighter program. Kuwait’s recent order for 28 aircraft will allow the four-nation consortium to push production out to 2023, and the Qatari order could continue production even longer, potentially allowing the aircraft to meet other future fighter requirements.

If it goes through with the Typhoon order, Qatar would become the fourth Middle East nation to order the aircraft after Saudi Arabia, Oman and Kuwait.
 
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