Various Latécoère projects

[hesham]

Do you have informations about Laté 1, Laté 2, Laté 7, Laté 9 - Laté 13 and Laté 18?

The Late.13.

 

[hesham]

Do you have informations about Laté 1, Laté 2, Laté 7, Laté 9 - Laté 13 and Laté 18?

Finally the Late.18.

 

[juanT]

Hi
Late 27,30 and 340... sorry, I don't remember the source, in my files since January 2003

 

[hesham]

Hi Juan,

that's a classified materials and high sensitive drawings,please try to remember
from where you got this ?.

 

[juanT]

Hi Hesham
unfortunately I do not have the source saved ... and my memory is not the best ... I attach a screenshot of the old zip file where I have these plans (5 january 2003), the "LATE-523" of my file is the same which appears at http://www.seawings.co.uk/Late523plansgal.htm where it appears who posted those plans.

 

[hesham]

here is a strange and unknown Project,but I suspect it was from Latecoere (maybe de Monge design),who can ID it ?;

Pilote-Virtuel.com - Forum de simulation aérienne / Enigme de Noel: Maquette soufflerie Latécoère

My dears,

I think you are right about SAB (not Latecoere) design,when I check,there
was unknown Project to SAB or Bordelaise called AB.30,it was a high-wing
twin-boom maybe a transport or a bomber,powered by four engines,so
maybe this one was AB.40 or AB.50,who knows ?.

Also we can consider the Latecoere 430,a twin-boom Project ?.

 

[burunduk]

Could you please tell me, was LATE-27 built or it has remained a project?
Thank you.

 

[hesham]

Could you please tell me, was LATE-27 built or it has remained a project?
Thank you.

It was a Project only.

 

[airman]

nice reconstruction of Latecoere 523 on flickr

https://flic.kr/p/a78Bkc

View: https://www.flickr.com/photos/27862259@N02/5976594525

 

[spockangel]

nice reconstruction of Latecoere 523 on flickr

https://flic.kr/p/a78Bkc

View: https://www.flickr.com/photos/27862259@N02/5976594525

British roundels ?

 

[airman]

nice reconstruction of Latecoere 523 on flickr

https://flic.kr/p/a78Bkc

View: https://www.flickr.com/photos/27862259@N02/5976594525

British roundels ?

could be an error of author : on wings , infact , seems be not have right roundels!

 

[Arjen]

Rudder and elevators have French markings - blue leading - combined with British roundels.
A rough correction:

 

[CiTrus90]

Pictures of the real aircraft show that the markings used in the drawing are actually correct:

 

[Arjen]

of the real aircraft show that the markings used in the drawing are actually correct:

That is probably due to the use of orthochromatic film, which turns red into a darker shade of grey than it does with blue. The Laté's rudder markings show a lighter shade - blue - leading, darker shade - red - trailing.
Images from https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/1224988-any-idea-what.html
Accompanying text:

Regarding orthochromatic versus panchromatic B&W photographs, attached are the best samples I've seen. They're from a fairly recent issue of the Canadian IPMS newsletter and depict two Spitfires (from the same squadron no less). The reversal in the grey tones between the red and blue is clearly evident. It is also worth noting how the yellow outer ring on the fuselage roundel is almost white in the panchromatic photo, while it is almost back in the orthochromatic photograph.

I've seen some silent Great War aviation movies that were shot in B&W panchromatic film but were supplemented with some older, orthochromatic, B&W, stock footage, so the roundels seem to fluctuate between British and French. Most people probably wouldn't notice but it stands out to me. Mind you, it's not as bad as Flyboys, a colour film where the roundels change nationalities!

During the Great War, panchromatic film was available but orthochromatic was far more prevalent, due to cheaper cost and easier developing. So, most photos taken during the Great War were orthochromatic film and it's easy to mistake the roundel nationality. Attached are two orthochromatic photos of Nieuports; Bishop's famous Type XXIV looking like it has French roundels and several Type X under construction and looking like they have British roundels. So, it's easy to understand how somebody not familiar with period photographs might misinterpret colours of the roundels.

 

[CiTrus90]

of the real aircraft show that the markings used in the drawing are actually correct:

That is probably due to the use of orthochromatic film, which turns red into a darker darker shade of grey than blue. The Laté's rudder markings show a lighter shade - blue - leading, darker shade - red - trailing.

You're right!
It would appear consistent with other black and white pictures of French aircraft from around the same period, just a lot darker though:

 

[Boyington]

LATECOERE 299 in WW2 Experimental only one

 

[JJMM]

According to the book by Jean Cuny "Latécoère, les avions et hydravions" DOCAVIA N. 34: the Latécoère 299 aircraft derived from the 298 seaplane was built in 2 copies, numbered 01 and 02 which will not have a successor, the market was intended for the aircraft carrier Joffre under construction, the aircraft was derived from the Laté 298 seaplane which was to equip the Commandant Teste.
After the armistice, the study of a VB10 heavy fighter was resumed but from a cell known for the development of tandem engines, the prototype 02 was chosen, which took the name 299-A, documents show another number 299-Z.
In any case the aircraft was modified and completed with Luftwaffe insignia but only made fixed point and taxiing tests in February 1944, but never flew. It was destroyed by fire at Lyon Bron following an Allied bombing raid as press article by Boyington.

 

[Stargazer]

Latécoère LAT. 16 mailplane (as "LAT-16"), from L'Aérotechnique N° 21, 1924 (full article in attachments):

 

[Stargazer]

More LAT. 16 for your enjoyment... Contrary to what I used to think, even period magazines didn't always write designations in a coherent way, as is pretty obvious here with Lat. 16 becoming "LAT-16", "LAT 16" or "LAT16" depending on the magazine...

 

[Apophenia]

More LAT. 16 for your enjoyment... Contrary to what I used to think, even period magazines didn't always write designations in a coherent way, as is pretty obvious here with Lat. 16 becoming "LAT-16", "LAT 16" or "LAT16" depending on the magazine...

Amazing collection of styles! Flight had Lat. 16 and LAT-16 in one article. Taschenbuch der Luftflotten has LAT 16 (no punkt). Aviation has LAT16 and LAT 16 (unspaced and space). With LAT. 16, L'Aérophile is the only one that was both consistent and correct.

 

[PhR]

And the winner is... LAT. XVI (with a point and roman numerals), as it is written directly on the tail of the aircraft by its manufacturer:

 

[hesham]

Laté 51/Laté 510 - 1929 single-engined, high-winged fighter a/c
- Laté 51/Laté 510: No other details

From Docavia.