Various Bristol postwar projects

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http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/

Some interesting stuff
 

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Got any specs on the VTOL aircraft, these are new ones on me?

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there was also the fabulous type 204 for the gor339 competition...
 

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Here are two more Bristol VSTOL projects, a supersonic Fighter and
a transport, both powered by BS.53 engines
(from FlugWelt-61-II )
 

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The Swing-Wing ramjet fighter reminds me the Barnes (Vickers) Swallow.Any relation...?
 

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I believe the VSTOL projects may be concepts by BSEL (Bristol Siddeley Engines Limited) based around the Pegasus engine rather than Bristol /BAC.
 

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'1958 BAEL Ramjet Fighter'
???...Uh...where did you come up with this being a Bristol project? ???
This design is a Barnes Wallis project...Vickers, not Bristol. At least, that's who's book it's listed in. So,...how could it be Bristol? No. Seriously.
 

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The site is basically about Bristol Aeroplane Company designs. Thats why. Its obviously a mistake on their part.
 

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Not a secret Bristol project at all, the production version of the Bristol
Brabazon differed from the prototype, at least the nose section. Just
found a cut-off drawing in "The Simons Peters Collection 001", showing
a more modern looking nose. From a picture on the last page, I would
say, that this form was already introduced in the second prototype.
 

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Akaikaze said:
'1958 BAEL Ramjet Fighter'
???...Uh...where did you come up with this being a Bristol project? ???
This design is a Barnes Wallis project...Vickers, not Bristol. At least, that's who's book it's listed in. So,...how could it be Bristol? No. Seriously.

From site:
G2056. Just some of the military aircraft ideas using ramjet technology that came from the factory in the late 1950's. These were produced by B.A.E.L. at Filton and show supersonic fighters with four wingtip mounted engines.

BAEL = Bristol Aero Engines Limited

Chris Gibson contacted me via Tony Buttler to clarify. It is indeed a Wallis design with BAEL "Steel Orpheus" Mach 3 capable turbojets. The drawing was prepared by BAEL, which is why it is included in the Filton archive.
 

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So, it's under Bristol only because of the engines. The actual aircraft is Wallis. I could see how the two might work together on such a project, seeing as Bristol was one of the only companies in the UK that made ramjets and other high powered engines and the Swallow design was designed to be very fast. That makes sense. :-\
'Steel Orpheus'? I'd like to learn more about that one. :eek:
 

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Thank you my dears Overscan and Jemiba,

there was some British VTOL projects.



http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1960/1960%20-%200008.pdf
 

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Hi,

Two VTOL transport for Beverley replacement.


http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1961/1961%20-%200772.pdf
 

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What was this variant for Britannia ?.

Air Pictorial 12/1955
 

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That might be connected with the Canadair CL-44.
http://www.cl44.com/index.htm
 

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The type is described in Richard Payne's Stuck on the Drawing Board, p.45.
It is the Bristol-Convair-Canadair development of the Type 187 (aka Britannia 600) with a 150-seat double-deck fuselage and powered by four BE.25 Orion Series 2. It was a 1955-56 project with projected first flight in January 1960 with entry into service in April 1962. BOAC seemed keen at first, the Government less so as they feared too much technical knowledge would go to the US.
Payne has the range at a lower (but more realistic) 4,600nm. Projected AUW 205,000lb.
 

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Oh yes,thank you my dear Hood,

I forgot to look in this book.
 

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From Ailes 28/12/1962,

here is a two hypothetical VTOL designs,they were a VTOL experimental fighter Projects,the left had a vectored
thrust nozzles and the right was the same,but had a two additions lift fans in front and rear of the fuselage.
 

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From Bristol Aerospace since 1910,

a Model for Bristol Type-176.
 

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From Bristol Aerospace since 1910,

what was this un-numbered design ?.
 

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From; Bristol an aircraft album.
 

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Hi,

The Bristol 195 & 216.

 

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From L+K 1968/5,

again with small Info,had a span of 12 m, a height of almost 10 m, a length of 25 m.
 

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From Crowood book,Bristol Britannia,

a more info about Type 189 & 195.
 

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