"Tanks" with Vertical Launch ATGMs

Cerebos was a project designed by the 7th Tank Technical Officers (T.T.O.) Mechanical and Gunnery AFV design exercise held at the British Royal Armoured Corp (R.A.C.) School of Tank Technology (S.T.T.) in 1956. In the study, the designers were tasked with coming up with a heavy tank destroyer using guided anti-tank missiles as its primary offensive weapon. It had to be able to operate on the front lines of a European conflict, have relative immunity from Soviet guns at combat ranges, and a very high chance of scoring a direct hit and killing any Soviet vehicle of the day.
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Tank Encyclopedia: Cerebos TD (1956)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKkyDQqPlq4
 
sferrin said:
bobbymike said:
Jemiba said:
I'm not quite sure about the benefits. It lowers the silhouette, ok, but doesn't it use up more
internal volume, than a turnable launcher, so reducing overall versatality of the vehicle ?
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Plus with US Army going to fewer soldiers you have an excess of vehicles with 'empty' back ends and no soldiers to fill them. Why not add vertical launch cells. Seems like a creative and efficient use for left over Bradley's, etc.
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A Striker/Bradley with a back end full of antitank-sized "Quick Kill" missiles. . .
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One would also think that such an arrangement would be less conspicuous on the battlefield - hence less prioritised target......


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Pioneer
 
Wow is that 30 VLS? Military vehicles with large capacity verticals launched missiles.

One of my favourite “what if’s” in military vehicles. I see that big flat deck and imagine.
 
Back in the 2000's i have read in a Greek military magazine that the Germans were projected a "fighting support vehicle" armed with a 50 mm automatic gun and VLS for anti-tank/anti-aircraft missiles.

Any information available on this?
 
KonTim said:
Back in the 2000's i have read in a Greek military magazine that the Germans were projected a "fighting support vehicle" armed with a 50 mm automatic gun and VLS for anti-tank/anti-aircraft missiles.
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First post, third picture.
 
Ultimately vertical launch is not particularly useful for ground attack missiles, and tank chassis is not needed to hold cheap tubes far from the front. Against artillery and top attack threats, the value of armor is significantly reduced.

You can stuff a brimstone launcher on a pickup covered by a tarp and just stress the enemy recon-strike complex with sheer numbers of potential shooters. Unless there is a serious need to save on drivers or something, there is no need for large ammo load either.
 
shin_getter said:
Ultimately vertical launch is not particularly useful for ground attack missiles, and tank chassis is not needed to hold cheap tubes far from the front. Against artillery and top attack threats, the value of armor is significantly reduced.

You can stuff a brimstone launcher on a pickup covered by a tarp and just stress the enemy recon-strike complex with sheer numbers of potential shooters. Unless there is a serious need to save on drivers or something, there is no need for large ammo load either.
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IIRC, the expected combat lifespan of a TOW jeep or humvee was 3 shots.

Might be closer to 5 shots with a fire and forget missile like Javelin.
 
Scott Kenny said:
IIRC, the expected combat lifespan of a TOW jeep or humvee was 3 shots.

Might be closer to 5 shots with a fire and forget missile like Javelin.
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Both TOW and Javelin are inherently LOS dependent weapons so matter little. TOW is even more irrelevant: it's slow and cumbersome, is outright inferior to Kornet, and is only better in terms of optics.
The modern TOW Humvee would be something like the CM-501G and CTL-181 combo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/lr80l5
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/lr80l5/new_pla_cm501_truckmounted_vls_missile_system/


It essentially replicate the concept of NLOS-LS, except the final product is better in every way.
Truck mounted TOW pedestals are obsolete. NLOS is life.
 

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