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Soviet unbuilt Naval projects

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Graham1973 said:
This picture of a proposed destroyer design from before WWII was posted on the Warship Projects forum a few years back..

The drawing's caption reads: 'Placement of a reloading mechanism by the engineer Champness'. As it may be seen the mechanism is for torpedo reloading, if I am not mistaken, there is the twin torpedo launcher and twelve reloads.
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TomS said:
I think this is early concept art for Project 80, which seems to be an extension of other Soviet tank float concepts where there are separate pontoons that basically wrap around the vehicle and provide both floatation and propulsion. In this case, there are two boats, with retractable hydrofoils, that attach to either side of the tank. The front foil could retract vertically into the boat hull, but there is no ramp.

This article (in Russian) has some images of related concepts.

https://topwar.ru/74-tank-na-podvodnyx-krylyax.html

I think it might be a rival project to Project 80. That looks like a single hull there in the 1960 image.
 

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Grey Havoc said:
The present day Russian Navy could certainly have used some of these.

Project 1077 Squadron Radar Picket Ship (what would have been known in the West as a Area Air Defense cruiser). Like it's western counterpart, the Ticonderoga class cruiser, it would have doubled as a command ship, although it would have been built in far smaller numbers (initial requirement was for 4 units, one per fleet):


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Initial design - 1970.


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Updated 1077 design - 1977.


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Carrier (arsenal ship) type variant - 1980.

Updated images/source link/s (please note that the arsenal ship version, armed with a naval tactical missile derived from elements of the 'original' Topol missile, was actually from 1987):
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http://otvaga2004.ru/atrina/atrina-atrina/atrina_2_ships/proekt-1077/

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An interesting report from 1975 on Soviet and Eastern European developments in surface effect vehicles, including hovercraft:

Includes some Soviet WIGs, mostly under the heading 'Aerodynamic Surface Effect Vehicles', with Ekranoplanes being mentioned (though not by that name, the term wasn't widely known in the West at the time) under the heading of 'Large Surface Effect Ships'.

EDIT: It does actually mentions the term 'ekranoplan'.
 

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Transport amphibian platforms, TAP-700 and TAP-1200:
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And, more Soviet projects (on Russian):
 
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Transport amphibian platforms, TAP-700 and TAP-1200:
If it didn't come from you Felix I'd think they were fake, those are some truly oddball designs, thank you for sharing them!
The TAP-1200 is just the Matroyshka doll idea taken way too far
 

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Also, about Russian tank-ships...
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Experimental steamboat, builted by engineer N. N. Benardos, project - 1876. Idea - cilinders (cilindrical wheels) on bow and stern, to overcome shallows, ride on the ground, and, for driving by rail. Between cilinders - standart paddle wheels. Tested on Luh river. Data of experimental "model" - weight with 10 crew - 60 pood (982.8 kg), draft 16 vershok (711.2 mm), lenght 16 arshin (1138 cm), beam 6.5 arshin (462.28 cm), height from waterline to upper deck 4.5 arshin (320 cm), diameter of cilinders 3 arshin (213.36 mm), lenght 6 arshin (426.72 cm). Full size variant not builted.
 

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Soviet magazine "Tehnika - molodezhi", also - idea of professor Pokrovskiy:
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Ocean liner without ship motions, with speed 70-80 kmph (37.8-43.2 knots).
And... Original project, by engineer Apostolov, 1889-1892:
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Also, Ocean liner, but, with speed to 100-110 knots (185.2-203.72 kmph).
 
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Dear all, haven't been on this forum for a long time, so it is great to see that it is still going strong!
I am trying to retrace an unbuilt Soviet project: it was a study for a Polar icebreaking patrol ship from the 70s/80s. It was very large and looked a mix between a Kerch class cruiser and an icebreaker. I used to have a render of it but unfortunately I lost my entire photo archive in a HD crash :eek:
Does any remember this project? If you don't have a render, then at least a project number or a name would be great as well.

I did a search through the forum but haven't found it yet, sorry.

EDIT: never mind, found it! Hadn't located the proper search function yet. It's this project: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/project-10590-opv-soviet-union.7682/

Cheers,
Ralph
 

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I find Project 47 interesting, very much enlarged "Kotlin's". On the CM-2 variant what is that replacing "B" turret, some sort of A/S weapon?
 

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The present day Russian Navy could certainly have used some of these.

Project 1077 Squadron Radar Picket Ship (what would have been known in the West as a Area Air Defense cruiser). Like it's western counterpart, the Ticonderoga class cruiser, it would have doubled as a command ship, although it would have been built in far smaller numbers (initial requirement was for 4 units, one per fleet):


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Initial design - 1970.


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Updated 1077 design - 1977.


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Carrier (arsenal ship) type variant - 1980.

Source and futher details: http://www.atrinaflot.narod.ru/2_mainclassships/02_rld_1077/0_1077.htm

Babelfish translation: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat...inaflot.narod.ru/&lp=ru_en&btnTrUrl=Translate [click on "Unrealized design of 1077 squadron radar picket ships (staff of ship- helicopter carriers) 1970- X yr".]
Lost image here:
 

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