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In the RAF Flying Review 3/62 I've found a model photo of a Shorts
VTOL project, principally similar to the german VJ-101, with to
swivelling nacelles and two vertically installed RB.162 engines.
Anybody, who knows the designation or furhter details ?
 

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Hi,

The Shorts SC.1 VTOL as tilting engines design.
 

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Short S.C.1 (P.D.11) was the flatriser with five R.B.108
engines to spec. ER.143....
 

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Reference for Hesham's pic:

http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1960/1960%20-%202986.pdf

Its one of of a number of Shorts designs in this piece. Not SC.1 though.
 

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The design (in the Flight article) with the cranked delta is sometimes mentioned
as the Short P.D.49.
source : Mach Magazine No.4 - 1961.
 

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Hi all,

in the Putnam book Shorts Aircraft since 1900 by C.H.Barnes are 3view drawing from the P.D.22, P.D.34 and P.D.75.
I need the technical data for this projects, can anybody of you help?

Servus Maveric
 

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Hi,

anther Shorts VTOL strike aircraft project based on SC.1.

http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1960/1960%20-%200790.pdf
 

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Hi all,

Shorts planed during the 1950s and 1960s many VTOL aircraft. The best known are the P.D.11 ( S.C.1 ) and the VTOL launching platform. But there are many other projects like the P.D.34.


Source Putnams: Shorts Aircraft since 1900

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From AE January/February 2006, the SC.8, a development from
the SC.1.
 

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From: FLIEGER REVUE
 

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3-view of the PD.17 vertical lift platform
(from D.Wood "Project Cancelled")
 

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Hi,

The Shorts PD.55 V/STOL military transport aircraft
project for NBMR-4 competition.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1964/1964%20-%202272.html
 

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Hi,

the Short Brothers & Harland Ltd and its technical director
Mr.David Keith-Lucas designed a VTOL aircraft in 1962.
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1962/1962%20-%200343.html?search=Heinkel%20aircraft%20project%201943
 

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:)
 

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VTOL Short PD16 from Short Quarterley Review Winter 1960.
 

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Just as a sidebar, it's my understanding that Shorts learned the hard way about asymmetric thrust with the SC1. SC1 used several jet engines powering each side of the longitudinal axis for vertical flight. During one of the test flights, one engine lost power quickly rolling the aircraft on its back at full power on the other engines. There was no time for the pilot to escape.
 

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Some more from same issue.
 

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Some drawings of SC1.
 

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hesham said:
Hi,

here is a Shorts PD.56 VTOL supersonic strike aircraft.

VTOL supersonic strike aircraft? Hardly. It looks like somebody's cocktail-napkin sketch for a VTOL testbed. Notice that there is no room for any fuel with most of the fuselage volume taken up with lift engines, cruise engine and its inlet duct, and landing gear. Anything it could strike with (say, a nuclear store) would have to be externally mounted on the centerline between the lift engine exhausts. The placement of the main landing gear so close to the trailing-edge controls on the too-small wing practically guarantees that it could only take off vertically (and then probably only fly once around the pattern).
 

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JimK said:
VTOL supersonic strike aircraft? Hardly. It looks like somebody's cocktail-napkin sketch for a VTOL testbed. Notice that there is no room for any fuel with most of the fuselage volume taken up with lift engines, cruise engine and its inlet duct, and landing gear. Anything it could strike with (say, a nuclear store) would have to be externally mounted on the centerline between the lift engine exhausts. The placement of the main landing gear so close to the trailing-edge controls on the too-small wing practically guarantees that it could only take off vertically (and then probably only fly once around the pattern).

Hi Jim,

you are right of course,but taht's exactly the drawing by Shorts as I know.
 

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See reply #23 ...erdkampf und aufklärungs flugzeug- ground attack & recce. aircraft
It should be interesting to see the source of the 2 view..
 

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JimK said:
VTOL supersonic strike aircraft? Hardly.

I agree and disagree. The layout is very similar to the Mirage IIIV, which actually was declared
winner of NBMR.3 and is credited with being the first supersonic VTOL aircraf, but with never being
able to achieve both during the same flight !
But at least Shorts may have envisaged another way to bring it up into the air
( http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1134.msg25531.html#msg25531 ),
so that perhaps it would have been "VL" (vertical landing) only.
 

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Whenever I see that proposal I am reminded of the time I showed the book "Project Cancelled" to a physician friend. After glancing over it his comment was " . . . thus saving the lives of numerous British test pilots."
 

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Short Brothers & Harland PD.56 V/STOL fighter.

Source:
http://archive.aviationweek.com/issue/19620917#!&pid=30
 

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Interesting - front end looks like an F-104.

Thanks! Mark
 

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Mark Nankivil said:
Interesting - front end looks like an F-104.

Thanks! Mark

Yeah, it looks like Lockheed wasn't the only manufacturer looking for a way to rebuild all of those NATO Starfighters into another aircraft.
 

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From Ali Nuove 9/1959,

here is a Shorts VTOL Project.
 

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