SAAB Fighter / Attack projects

[Kryptid]

Wow. That's quite the interesting design. I wouldn't mind seeing a CG model of this...

 

[LowObservable]

My tedious-meeting CAS preliminary-design doodles come out looking like that sometimes.

 

[Grey Havoc]

I wonder how well it would have worked as a low cost A-4 replacement? Especially flying from carriers.

 

[Spark]

Hi.

SAAB A-37 ideas?

Early drawing circa 1961 purporting to be the Saab A-37 with kind of double delta showing two outboard swivelling jet engines midway along the wing?
Was this a VTOL design?

The Saab engine of choice for the single engine proposal was originally a RR engine possibly a licensed built Medway?

Can any one help details of these proposals?

 

[Arjen]

This one? http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,683.msg81876.html#msg81876

 

[overscan]

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[Michel Van]

Saab Project 1300-71D


Wind-cannel Model, found on Wikipedia

 

[hesham]

Great find my dear Michel.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is the SAAB R 1001 jet fighter drawing of 1945,which later developed
into J 29,it had a mid-high straight wing of thin section,a fat barrel-like a
fuselage and sticking out above and beyond it,a slim tail boom.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is the SAAB 37 Junior of 1960,and SAAB Projects 1508,1534 & 1562.


http://www.aef.se/flygvapnet/notiser/FPL37%20Viggen%20notis%202.htm

 

[toura]

Hi all
from a swedish site ???????????

 

[toura]

one other

 

[RAP]

Nice finds. Thanks Toura and Hesham.

 

[GTX]

Any more details on these most recent posts?

 

[hesham]

Any more details on these most recent posts?

My dear GTX,


I think there is a little info in Reply 1.

 

[Mikhael]

Some Photoshop magic.

 

[Jemiba]

Many thanks for your efforts, Mikhael !

 

[pedrospe]

Nice pictures,thanks a lot.





best regards


Pedro

 

[fightingirish]

Jozef Gatial aka PlanesPictures did a fantastic drawing of the SAAB Project 1418. B)
Jembia also added a 3-view drawing to that topic.
Link: Secret Projects Forum » Research Topics » User Artwork » SAAB Project 1418

 

[PlanesPictures]

SAAB project 1418 is our first testbed for 3D printing, too. Certainly part of model will be improved due to notes of testers. But as I like Sweden ( 10 years I was working in one IT Sweden company here in Slovakia and I took part on a lot of sitting with Absolut vodka) I like this projects family and I suppose to fill full collection of these unique projects

 

[GTX]

What scale will the SAAB project 1418 be?

 

[PlanesPictures]

this ready model is in scale 1/72 but no problem to do it in other scale, too

 

[stimpy75]

found this on MP.net
Saab P1642

 

[hesham]

Hi Stimpy75,


nice find,but are you sure it's real design ?,it looks like Fairchild/Republic A-10.

 

[Apophenia]

nice find,but are you sure it's real design ?,it looks like Fairchild/Republic A-10.

IPMS Stockholm hasa Swedish what-if discussion but P1642-06 seems to have been real ... a part of projekt/studie 'Flygplan 80'

"SAAB Project: 1642-06 FLP Klass B3LM, drawing from December in 1974. During B3LA epoch designed it actually an A-10-like draft, entitled 1642-06, class B3LM. Length around 12 m, span around 11 meters, 2 J-85 engines (the same as in the SAAB 105Ö)."

http://www.ipmsstockholm.se/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=574&start=70

 

[GTX]

A sub-scale A-10

 

[Basil]

Very nice compact and cost efficient concept.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Apophenia.

 

[Jemiba]

Similarity really is striking and it's hard to believe, that there was no influence,
but the same could be said about the Projekt 1390
(http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1177.msg30478.html#msg30478),
although predating the Northrop YA-9, or Sukhoi Su-25 by around 7 to 8 years.

 

[Stargazer2006]

Similarity really is striking and it's hard to believe, that there was no influence

I know about the so-called "parallel thinking" theories, which in many cases are true... yet in this particular case, the front view is just too blatantly similar to the A-10 for it not to have been done with prior knowledge of the "Hog"...

 

[Grey Havoc]

Fairchild and SAAB did co-operate on a number of projects, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[TomS]

Was there a lot of cooperation before the 1979 agreement on the SF340?

It doesn't seem too odd for Saab to have done this even without Fairchild. The A-10 was flown in 1972 and selected by the USAF in 1973, so it makes sense that Saab might run a design study using the same basic concept in 1974, if only to explore the potential of the configuration.

 

[Jemiba]

... or maybe it was a design study, similar to those mentioned here
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9225.msg84166.html#msg84166 ?
For a relatively small, like that from Sweden, a dedicated ground attack aircraft may be hard
to justify and would chew off resources needed elsewhere.
So, maybe that study was just a kind of examination, what the net results of such an aircraft
in the inventory would be. Could somehow explain, that a proven solution was used, certainly
easing the task.

 

[hesham]

Fairchild and SAAB did co-operate on a number of projects, if I'm not mistaken.

Of course my dear Grey,


such as SAAB-Fairchild SF440,but no more details are known,and may be developed from SF340.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


I never saw like the fighter in lower section.


http://www.saabveteran.se/minnen/d19/d19omslag.htm

 

[Jemiba]

Just a guess, but it looks like an iteration of the 1377 to me.
( http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,683.msg26230.html#msg26230 )

 

[hesham]

Yes my dear Jemiba,


it was from 1300s designation as I think.

 

[Pioneer]

Would be very interesting to find out more and substantiate the Saab P1642 design!!

Regards
Pioneer

 

[hesham]

Hi,


here is a drawing to SAAB-29R Project with a more capability radar.


Flygvapennytt 2-1972

 

[Basil]

Thx, Hesham, very interesting. Some more info regarding the Saab 29R?