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What should such a book be called?
SAAB's thought process?
SAAB's thought experiments?
SAAB's combat aircraft projects?
SAAB's air force projects?
I am interested. I like the last name, but maybe add a date to it (EX: 1940 - 1950).
Or maybe i should just call it Swedish secret air force projects and include weaponry as well?

Swedish secret air force projects: 1926-1976?
I like it. It sounds nice.
 

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I should write a book or something on this. There are so much shit that SAAB designed over the years. Anyone interested in that?
I have already the money ready to buy that :D
Well i need funding for the book :p

What i need to write such a book:
  • A full season busscard. (ca 1000 euro)
  • Rent money for a year: (ca 4200 euro)
  • Material money (document scans) (idk 1000 euro?)
  • Someone who can draw detailed and correct aircraft blueprints based on old linedrawings etc.
  • Beer money to not go mad. (ca 1300 euro)
  • A contact at Saab to clear up all their modern projects and numbers etc.
Ok: I'll start to buy a lot of lottery tickets! I'll call you if I'll win something :D
 

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Hi! 1300-71D. (1371D).
Wing plan form and horizontal tail stabilizer shape between wind tunnel test model and three side view drawing are different.
Three side view drawing source : AIR Enthusiast No.90, SECRET SAAB PROJECTS, Tony Buttler.

https://intscalemodeller.com/viewtopic.php?t=25589
https://tecnodefesa.com.br/saab-36-o-bombardeiro-supersonico-da-suecia/

"1300 Project
The end of World War II showed that humanity would enter, for decades to come, a polarized and tense world.
For the countries of Europe, the epicenter of this division of the world, there were moments of anguish and apprehension about the spectre of communism that was advancing mainly throughout Eastern Europe.
The scenario was even worse for non-aligned nations and, like Sweden. With relatively small territory, a lean economy that could not invest large amounts in defence and was immediately in front of the former Soviet Union, it was necessary to have deterrent elements to prevent its territory from being invaded in the event of a conflict.
Although qualitatively inferior, the military might of the countries of the former Warsaw Pact was much higher in numerical terms.
The scenario was even worse for non-aligned nations and, like Sweden. With relatively small territory, a lean economy that could not invest large amounts in defence and was immediately in front of the former Soviet Union, it was necessary to have deterrent elements to prevent its territory from being invaded in the event of a conflict.
One of the moves to ensure their safety was studies for the creation of nuclear weapons.
Although the country later did not effectively develop these weapons, it was necessary to have a vector that would transport and launch the bomb at the target.
It was then that the Project 1300, a supersonic bomber designed to reach altitudes of 60,000 feet (or 18,200m), maximum speed of Mach 2.14 (2,642km/h) and take a crew member, emerged. At 17m long and 9.6m in wingspan, the empty weight was nine tonnes and could carry an 800kg pump internally. Its engines were two Bristol Olympus engines, the same as the English Avro Vulcan bombers.
Apparently two other studies were done for the project which also became known as Saab A36. For both cases it would be single-engine, one version with the air intake under the fuselage (A36-76C) and the other with on this (A-36-77A)."
 

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I think this wind tunnel test model wing shape and horizontal tail stabilizer shape looks like project 1338's one.
But fuselage shape is different.
 

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BTW: J-51 doesn't fit too much with Flygvapnet number series. The contemporary Draken was J-35, while the much later Viggen was "37" and Gripen is "39". Following the sequence I imagine that J-51 is expected to be used for some Flygvatnet frontline fighter in a distant future.
Saab's numbering systems did wander about a bit. The J-51 does have good credentials, being first published in a contemporary Swedish journal. It looks not unlike the first iteration of the Lildraken, before they cut back the intakes. A reasonable guess might be that it was the initial fighter design study which led to the Lildraken, and that the resulting Draken proper was then developed based on the success of the Lildraken's midlife nose job.
Intriguingly, it is basically a double-delta flying wing with twin engines which presumably had to find room later for a single but much larger engine.
 
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