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Hello lads,

I assume my almost total ignorance on this small german manufacturer. All that I know is here. As usual, if someone knows more please fill in the blanks:

Klemm Aircraft Projects

E...
E34 - Biplane trainer
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E37 - Twin engined Communications/touring aircraft ( later Kl104/Si104 Hallore )
E...
E63 - Parasol wing carrier-borne recce
E64 - Biplane version of the E63.
 
A new book (volume 1 of 2) was published recently:

"Klemm-Flugzeuge" by Paul Zöller.

It contains descriptions of all Klemm planes and a history of the company.

The second volume should contain among others a list with all the preserved, stored and active Klemm planes.

 
OMG,

please Viggen,can you display its index ?,and thanks.
 
Unfortunately, I don't have it with me and now, with the local lockdowns, I am not able to go get it ... :(
But, if you look for example at Amazon.co.uk, they have a very nice preview of the book!
 
Ditto! The E34 was a biplane training aircraft (love to see a drawing) and the E37 was the Siebel Hallore ( an early project ).
 
I've just checked in the book: the RLM 154/155 designations were allocated to Klemm, but not used, as seen in Andreas Parsch's website. The author does not had to this information.
 
I've just checked in the book: the RLM 154/155 designations were allocated to Klemm, but not used, as seen in Andreas Parsch's website. The author does not had to this information.
By the way,

all source also said the RLM 153 was not used,but we finally
found it as a real design,with its small Model ?!.
 
Did anyone hear about a Klemm rocket powered aircraft development of about 1934/35?
It should have been a study with a Klemm L25d cutted fuselage and a double tail.
Conventional Hirth engine in front, but rockets in the cutted rear part of the fuselage.
I am not looking for the Tilling-Klemm, which was armed with rockets,
but for a rocket-powered Klemm.
 
Very interesting . What is your source ?
We are currently discussing early rocket applications for aircraft in the 1920s and early 1930s
and got an anonymous model aircraft photo, which shows the above design.

We know, that Valier was in contact with von Langsdorff of the Klemm company about utilizing L20s for rocket driven flights in the 1920s.
However, we have no traces, that this contact led to anything.

The model aircraft wears D-ERAK as a tailsign, which was originally a Klemm L25dVIIR delivered to DLV in April 1934.
Interestingly this aircraft was not transfered to NSFK in 1938, but it was already withdrawn from use in February 1938,
which was very uncommon.

However, the utilization of a rocket battery in the model aircraft would have followed the very early approaches of the 1928/29s,
which was already obsolete in 1934 and later. That makes us believe, that the model aircraft is pure fantasy.
But probably someone here has a real photo, a drawing or documents, which confirm the existence of such a rocket approach with a L25d in the 30s?
 
Probably name it "(Klemm) Raketenflugzeug (mystery/doubtfull)" = rocket aircraft.
I still have not found any official hints, that this was a real Klemm project.
 
When did the change from L to Kl designations occur? The Kl 31 and Kl 32 seem to have been designated as such from the outset, before 1933. Or was this because they were cabin planes and not Lightplanes? But weren't prefixes like Kl, He and Ju invented by the Nazi RLM, so in 1933?
 
The RLM standardized the (mostly*) two-letter prefixes with only the first one capitalized. To the best of my knowledge, the only company that already used RLM-like two-letter prefixes before was Dornier (Do), with Junkers (Ju), and Heinkel (He) having a few as well, though early Heinkel designations had both letters capitalized.
* notable exception was DFS.
 
Thanks Stargazer. As you say Do and Ju were certainly used before 1933, so I guess it was a trend and maybe already recommended by the authorities. If someone knows more I'd appreciate it.
 
... Klemm worked for Zeppelin,which aircraft he was designed ?...

Dr.-Ing. Hanns Klemm worked under Claudius Dornier at Zeppelin, it seems mainly doing stress calculations for steel airframe structures.
 
For Klemm list


L 22 was an experimental sporting and light aircraft,powered by one 20 hp
Daimler F7502 engine,1927
Kl 22 was a version of L-22,but powered by one 72 hp Hirth HM engine
L 23 & L 24 ? were not used,but probably reserved for experimental construction
aircraft ?
L 25 was a two-seat low-wing sporting and light monoplane,powered by
one 20 hp Daimler F7502 engine,1928
L 26 was a two-seat low-wing civil training and sporting monoplane,powered
by one 82 hp Siemens Sh13 engine,1929
L 27 was a two-seat low-wing multi-purpose light monoplane,powered by
one 100 hp Argus As 8 engine,1929/30
L 28 was a single seat aerobatic light aircraft,powered by one 150 hp Siemens
Sh14 engine,1930
Alpha was a single-seat experimental light aircraft,as a motor glider concept,
powered by one 20 hp Daimler F7502 engine,1930,may be L 29 ?
L 30
was a two-seat sporting and light aircraft,powered by one 72 hp
Hirth HM60 engine,1930
Kl 31 was a four-seat civil touring cabin aircraft,powered by one 160 hp Bramo
Sh 14 A4 engine,1931
Kl 32 was a three-seat low-wing touring cabin monoplane,powered by one 160 hp
Bramo Sh 14 A4 engine,1932
L 33 was a single seat parasol wing light monoplane,powered by one 18 hp
DKW "P" engine,1932
E 34 was a two-seat trainer biplane in a mixed construction with a steel tube fuselage and a 9 m long wing made of conventional wood,powered by one
150 hp Siemens Sh14 engine,project of 1934
Kl 35 was a two-seat cantilever-low-wing trainer and sport monoplane,powered
by one 80 hp Hirth HM60R engine,1934
Kl 36 was a four-seat low-wing touring cabin monoplane,powered by one 225 hp
Argus As 17A engine,1934
E 37 was a four-seat low-wing touring cabin monoplane project,powered by
two 250 hp engines,1935
E 63 was a two-seat parasol wing carrier-borne reconnaissance monoplane,
project,powered by one 580 hp Jumo 10A engine
E 64 was a two-seat biplane version of the E63,powered by one 580 hp
Jumo 10A engine
Kl 101 was probably the same as Siebel Si 201
Kl 102 was probably the same as Siebel Si 202
Kl 103 was not used,but may it as reserved designation for E 63/64,if they built
Kl 104 was a low-wing 5/6 seat light transport and multi-purpose monoplane,1936
powered by two 284 Hirth HM 508 engines,later in 1937, Klemm transferred control of the Halle factory to Fritz W. Siebel prior to quantity production commencing,
to be Siebel Fh.104
Kl 105 was a two-seat sport,it was a low-wing cantilever monoplan,powered
by one 50 hp Zundapp 9-092 engine,1938
Kl 106 was the same as Kl 35c,as a two-seat sporting monoplane of 1939,powered
by one 105 hp Hirth 504A engine
Kl 107 was a side-by-side two-seat light aircraft,it was a conventional low-wing cantilever monoplane of wooden construction,powered by one 105 hp Hirth
HM 105 engine,1940
Kl 150 ? was unknown and probably not used,but from old site on Net,it was
a single seat light project,need confirm,I am not sure
Kl 151 was a four-seat low-wing cantilever cabin monoplane,powered by
one 240 hp Argus As 10P engine
Kl 152 was developed from Kl 151,also as a four-seat low-wing cantilever
touring monoplane,powered by Two 95 hp Hirth HM 506 engines
Kl 153 was a four-seat high-wing twin boom reconnaissance monoplane
project,intended to compete Fieseler Fi.156,powered by two 95 hp Hirth
HM 506 engines
Kl 154 & 155 were not used



- To be continued
 
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...
I think if we start to make a list for Klemm,we must begin from Daimler, to can realize his work...

Except that you have included a great number of Daimler designs which were most decidedly, not "his work"!

And, besides, back in 2011, Maveric started a dedicated thread for DMG designations:
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/daimler-motoren-gesellschaft.12693/

In any case, the Daimler-built Riesenflugzeug and Großflugzeug airframes that you have listed have nothing to do with Hanns Klemm - they all sprang from former Union Flugzeugwerke GmbH designers, Baurat Rittberger and/or Karl Schopper beginning in 1915. Hanns Klemm didn't take over the DMG design office until April 1918. So what possible logic could there be in lumping these giant designs in with Klemm's work?

Also, listing known Idflieg role designators with corporate designations (guesswork or otherwise) is dodgy at best. But, as Paul has repeated requested, leave out the speculative 'designations'.[/B]
 
Please don‘t write the designations of German aircraft with a dash, correct would be a space between the abbreviated company and the designation number.

So, e.g. it is Klemm Kl 31 and not Kl-31.
No one would think of writing famous „Iron Annie“ like Junkers Ju-52, but Ju 52. ;)
 
For Klemm list

L 25 was a two-seat low-wing sporting and light monoplane,powered by
one 20 hp Daimler F7502 engine,1928
L 26 was a two-seat low-wing civil training and sporting monoplane,powered
by one 82 hp Siemens Sh13 engine,1929
L 27 was a two-seat low-wing multi-purpose light monoplane,powered by
one 100 hp Argus As 8 engine,1929/30
L 28 was a single seat aerobatic light aircraft,powered by one 150 hp Siemens
Sh14 engine,1930
Alpha was a single-seat experimental light aircraft,as a motor glider concept,
powered by one 20 hp Daimler F7502 engine,1930,may be L 29 ?
L 30
was a two-seat sporting and light aircraft,powered by one 72 hp
Hirth HM60 engine,1930
Kl 31 was a four-seat civil touring cabin aircraft,powered by one 160 hp Bramo
Sh 14 A4 engine,1931
Kl 32 was a three-seat low-wing touring cabin monoplane,powered by one 160 hp
Bramo Sh 14 A4 engine,1932
L 33 was a single seat parasol wing light monoplane,powered by one 18 hp
DKW "P" engine,1932
E 34 was a two-seat trainer biplane in a mixed construction with a steel tube fuselage and a 9 m long wing made of conventional wood,powered by one
150 hp Siemens Sh14 engine,project of 1934
Kl 35 was a two-seat cantilever-low-wing trainer and sport monoplane,powered
by one 80 hp Hirth HM60R engine,1934
Kl 36 was a four-seat low-wing touring cabin monoplane,powered by one 225 hp
Argus As 17A engine,1934
E 37 was a four-seat low-wing touring cabin monoplane project,powered by
two 250 hp engines,1935
E 63 was a two-seat parasol wing carrier-borne reconnaissance monoplane,
project,powered by one 580 hp Jumo 10A engine
E 64 was a two-seat biplane version of the E63,powered by one 580 hp
Jumo 10A engine
Kl 104 was a low-wing 5/6 seat light transport and multi-purpose monoplane,1936
powered by two 284 Hirth HM 508 engines,later in 1937, Klemm transferred control of the Halle factory to Fritz W. Siebel prior to quantity production commencing,
to be Siebel Fh.104
Kl 105 was a two-seat sport,it was a low-wing cantilever monoplan,powered
by one 50 hp Zundapp 9-092 engine,1938
Kl 106 was the same as Kl 35c,as a two-seat sporting monoplane of 1939,powered
by one 105 hp Hirth 504A engine
Kl 107 was a side-by-side two-seat light aircraft,it was a conventional low-wing cantilever monoplane of wooden construction,powered by one 105 hp Hirth
HM 105 engine,1940
Kl 150 ? was unknown and probably not used,but from old site on Net,it was
a single seat light project,need confirm,I am not sure
Kl 151 was a four-seat low-wing cantilever cabin monoplane,powered by
one 240 hp Argus As 10P engine
Kl 152 was developed from Kl 151,also as a four-seat low-wing cantilever
touring monoplane,powered by Two 95 hp Hirth HM 506 engines
Kl 153 was a four-seat high-wing twin boom reconnaissance monoplane
project,intended to compete Fieseler Fi.156,powered by two 95 hp Hirth
HM 506 engines
Kl



- To be continued

I finished it,and I avoid Daimler's aircraft from the list.
 
For Klemm list


L 22 was an experimental sporting and light aircraft,powered by one 20 hp
Daimler F7502 engine,1927
Kl 22 was a version of L-22,but powered by one 72 hp Hirth HM engine
L 23 & L 24 ? were not used,but probably reserved for experimental construction
aircraft ?
L 25 was a two-seat low-wing sporting and light monoplane,powered by
one 20 hp Daimler F7502 engine,1928
L 26 was a two-seat low-wing civil training and sporting monoplane,powered
by one 82 hp Siemens Sh13 engine,1929
L 27 was a two-seat low-wing multi-purpose light monoplane,powered by
one 100 hp Argus As 8 engine,1929/30
L 28 was a single seat aerobatic light aircraft,powered by one 150 hp Siemens
Sh14 engine,1930
Alpha was a single-seat experimental light aircraft,as a motor glider concept,
powered by one 20 hp Daimler F7502 engine,1930,may be L 29 ?
L 30
was a two-seat sporting and light aircraft,powered by one 72 hp
Hirth HM60 engine,1930
Kl 31 was a four-seat civil touring cabin aircraft,powered by one 160 hp Bramo
Sh 14 A4 engine,1931
Kl 32 was a three-seat low-wing touring cabin monoplane,powered by one 160 hp
Bramo Sh 14 A4 engine,1932
L 33 was a single seat parasol wing light monoplane,powered by one 18 hp
DKW "P" engine,1932
E 34 was a two-seat trainer biplane in a mixed construction with a steel tube fuselage and a 9 m long wing made of conventional wood,powered by one
150 hp Siemens Sh14 engine,project of 1934
Kl 35 was a two-seat cantilever-low-wing trainer and sport monoplane,powered
by one 80 hp Hirth HM60R engine,1934
Kl 36 was a four-seat low-wing touring cabin monoplane,powered by one 225 hp
Argus As 17A engine,1934
E 37 was a four-seat low-wing touring cabin monoplane project,powered by
two 250 hp engines,1935
E 63 was a two-seat parasol wing carrier-borne reconnaissance monoplane,
project,powered by one 580 hp Jumo 10A engine
E 64 was a two-seat biplane version of the E63,powered by one 580 hp
Jumo 10A engine
Kl 101 was probably the same as Siebel Si 201
Kl 102 was probably the same as Siebel Si 202
Kl 103 was not used,but may it as reserved designation for E 63/64,if they built
Kl 104 was a low-wing 5/6 seat light transport and multi-purpose monoplane,1936
powered by two 284 Hirth HM 508 engines,later in 1937, Klemm transferred control of the Halle factory to Fritz W. Siebel prior to quantity production commencing,
to be Siebel Fh.104
Kl 105 was a two-seat sport,it was a low-wing cantilever monoplan,powered
by one 50 hp Zundapp 9-092 engine,1938
Kl 106 was the same as Kl 35c,as a two-seat sporting monoplane of 1939,powered
by one 105 hp Hirth 504A engine
Kl 107 was a side-by-side two-seat light aircraft,it was a conventional low-wing cantilever monoplane of wooden construction,powered by one 105 hp Hirth
HM 105 engine,1940
Kl 150 ? was unknown and probably not used,but from old site on Net,it was
a single seat light project,need confirm,I am not sure
Kl 151 was a four-seat low-wing cantilever cabin monoplane,powered by
one 240 hp Argus As 10P engine
Kl 152 was developed from Kl 151,also as a four-seat low-wing cantilever
touring monoplane,powered by Two 95 hp Hirth HM 506 engines
Kl 153 was a four-seat high-wing twin boom reconnaissance monoplane
project,intended to compete Fieseler Fi.156,powered by two 95 hp Hirth
HM 506 engines
Kl 154 & 155 were not used



- To be continued

I re-set the list and began from L-22,also I added L 23,24,Kl 101, Kl 102 &
Kl 103.
 
FWIW, I decided to complete and post my own lists of Klemm-related designations ...

Corporate Structures Related to Ing Hanns Klemm

A review of firms with Hanns Klemm connections seems necessary due to the tendency to continue existing designation sequences. When Daimler sold Klemm the rights to his earlier designs, the DMG 'L' sequence was continued. This sequence later overlapped with the RLM designation system - at first unofficially (with Klemm 'Kl' duplicating numbers assigned to Dornier by the RLM), later officially. [1]

The RLM system later imposed its own numbering sequence running from the 1937 Kl 104 to the wartime Kl 107. [2] When aircraft production was allowed to resume in postwar West Germany, Klemm teamed with Ludwig Bölkow to restart production of KL 107 series lightplanes. Here, the Nazi-era lower-case 'l' was replaced with a capital letter but the RLM numbered was retained. This would be the last aircraft type produced under the Klemm name but its numbering would influence Bölkow 's KL 107 derivative - the Bö 207.

That lone Kl 104 came to represent a bitter story for Hanns Klemm. In 1934, Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm GmbH established a new subsidiary at Halle an der Saale in Saxony - the Klemm Flugzeugwerk Halle GmbH. Construction of a new plant at Halle was approved by the RLM after successful negotiations led by LFK shareholder, 'Fritz' Siebel. Management of the factory was assigned to Franz Walter from LFK's Böblingen sales department. Friedrich Fecher - designer of the Kl 104 - also relocated from Böblingen.

But, as it happened, the Kl 104 would be the sole Klemm design for Halle. [3] First, the RLM redesignated the type as the Fh 104 (for Klemm Flugzeugwerk Halle). Then, in 1937, the newly-appointed Gauleiter of Gau Halle-Merseburg - SS-Brif Joachim Albrecht Eggeling - arranged for the German state to seize control of the Klemm Flugzeugwerk Halle GmbH plant. The RLM completed this involuntary acquisition in Dec 1937. The plant then assumed the name of Siebel Flugzeugwerke KG to acknowledge the new Director General - Hanns Klemm's former colleague, Obstltn Friedrich W. Siebel.

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Hanns Klemm Corporate Development & Timeline

Daimler-Motorenwerke-Gesellschaft
*
1918: Hanns Klemm heads DMG design office at Sindelfingen
-- * Despite name, aircraft division of the then-Benz & Cie

Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm o.H.G. (LFK)
1926: Partnership:* Sindelfingen-based (Flugzeugbau-Halle 6)
-- An offene Handelsgesellschaft is a general partnership

Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm GmbH
1927, Feb: LFK o.H.G. re-organized as a limited company
-- Managing Director, Ing Robert Lusser (also ex-DGM)

Klemm Flugzeugwerk Halle GmbH
1934: Subsidiary of LFK GmbH with new factory built at Halle
1937: Becomes state-controlled Siebel Flugzeugwerke KG

Hanns Klemm Flugzeugbau Partnerschaftsgesellschaft*
1938: Re-privatisation of the Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm GmbH
-- Hanns Klemm bought all shares via adhesive patent revenues
-- * Hanns Klemm Flugzeugbau PG really a sole proprietorship

Hanns Klemm Flugzeugbau, Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm GmbH
1940-41: Restructuring as GmbH (to limited personal liabilities)
1943, 23 May: Hanns Klemm resigns as firm's managing director*
-- * RLM appointed a trustee to manage Me 163 wing production
-- * June 1943, Hanns Klemm renounced his NSDAP membership

Klemm Technik GmbH
1941: Initially, not directly aircraft-related; private test workshop
-- Managed patent rights; eg: Kaurit glue; half-shell construction*
-- * Kaurit WHK UF adhesive & semi-monocoque wooden shells
-- * Kaurit WHK sometimes aka 'Klemm-Leims' (or 'Klemmleims')

Vermögensverwaltung Hanns Klemm Flugzeugbau
194(?)-1954: A postwar asset management corporation*
-- * Allies banned Nazi-controlled Hanns Klemm Flugzeugbau
-- Early '50s, imported Swedish Sk15As (Kl 35D) for resale**
-- ** Activities undertaken with son, Hannsjürgen Klemm
-- Also covered initial Bölkow-Entwicklungen KG negotiations

Hanns Klemm Flugzeugbau GmbH
1955: Formed by Hanns with his son, Hannsjürgen Klemm
-- First postwar KL 107 built by Apparatebau Nabern GmbH*
-- * Bölkow subsidiary (Apparatebau Bölkow GmbH in 1960)

Kemm-Flugzeuge GmbH
1957, Oct: Consortium formed to produce the Klemm KL 107*
-- * Consortium of Klemm's firm & Bölkow-Entwicklungen KG
1959, 30 April: The Klemm-Flugzeuge GmbH was dissolved**
-- ** Klemm name & rights to the Apparatebau Nabern GmbH
-- Last 'Klemm' (a 107C) built by Apparatebau Bölkow in 1961

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[1] The first official RLM designation assignment was 8-31 for the Kl 31 ... followed by 8-32/Kl 32; 8-35/Kl 35; and 8-36/Kl 36.

[2] The full sequence was 8-104/Kl 104; 8-105/Kl 105; 8-106/Kl 106; and 8-107/Kl 107. RLM designation numbers were often issued in clumps by manufacturer but not in a continuous sequence. As a result, the next officially allocated RLM designation was 8-151/Kl 151.

[3] Appropriately, the Fh 104 would be dubbed Hallore (or 'one born in Halle'). Its designer, Friedrich Fecher, had meanwhile become chief designer for the new Siebelwerke. Fecher would go on to design the Siebel si 201, Si 202 Hummel, and Si 204.
 
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Hanns Klemm and the Daimler-Motorenwerke-Gesellschaft

On 01 April 1918, Ing Hanns Klemm assumed management of the DMG aircraft design office at Sindelfingen. He led the design of the Daimler L 6 and L 8 but the first design entirely by Klemm was the L 9. Klemm's last design for the Daimler-Motorenwerke-Gesellschaft was the experimental L 22 light plane.

Under extreme economic pressure, in 1926, Benz & Cie. rationalised its business. As part of that decision, aircraft design and production at Sindelfingen was to be ended. The Daimler-Motorenwerke-Gesellschaft was then merged into Benz & Cie. before disappearing into the newly formed Daimler-Benz A.G. Production rights for on-going DMG designs were sold to chief designer Hanns Klemm (based on negotiations begun in Autumn of 1926). Klemm then leased former DGM assembly facility Flugzeugbau-Halle 6 at Sindelfingen and formed a general partnership - Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm o.H.G. or LFK - to continue production.

Birth of the Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm GmbH

The first Klemm L 20 light planes were completed at the leased Flugzeugbau-Halle 6 in March 1927. By then, a limited company - Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm GmbH - had been formed. The new firm's managing director was designer Robert Lusser, another former DGM employee (and a key shareholder was Friedrich Siebel). When the Daimler facility lease ended in May 1928, Klemm relocated to Böblingen where a new factory was being erected. With that move, the L 20 line was ended and production of the Lusser-developed L 25 began.

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Klemm designs for the Daimler-Motorenwerke-Gesellschaft

Note that this list includes airframes designed by or under Hanns Klemm while at the Daimler-Motorenwerke-Gesellschaft at Sindelfingen but some would not be built by the Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm GmbH until long after the demise of DMG. As early as 1919, the Daimler L 15 ultralight was being referred to as the Klemm-Daimler L 15. After 1926, such designs were rightly referred to as Klemm products. Later still, some type numbers were given backformation RLM designations - such as Kl 22.

Daimler L 6 - 1918 D.I single-seat biplane fighter; x 6*
- L 6 : Single-bay near-sesquiplane; monocoque fuselage
- L 6 : 1 x 185 hp Daimler D IIIb V8 engine; span 11.82 m
-- NB: 1 x prototype with geared Daimler D.IIIbm engine
-- D.8800/18 had geared D.IIIbm with nose-mounted rad
-- * 6 x completed of 20 x Daimler D.Is ordered

Daimler L 7 - (??) hypothetical desig.; poss. Klemm design

Daimler L 8 - 1918 CL.I biplane 2-seat escort fighter; x 1
- L 8 : 1 x 185 hp Daimler D IIIb V8 engine; span 11.82 m
- L 8 : Hanns Klemm design; offered unsuccessfully to Chile

Daimler L 9 - 1918 D.II single-seat biplane fighter; x 1*
- L 9 : L 6/D.I update; single-strut, single-bay sesquiplane
- L 9 : 1 x 185 hp Daimler D IIIb V8 engine; span 9.00 m
- L 9 : Hanns Klemm design; wartime testing incomplete
-- * Mailplane conv. proposed; possible designation 'L 8V'

Daimler L 10 - (??) hypothetical desig.; poss. Klemm design

Daimler L 11 - 1918 parasol single-seat fighter prototype
- L 11 : 1 x 185 hp Daimler D IIIb V8 engine; span (??) m
- L 11 : Had separate, overhung wingtip aileron balancers
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/klemm-leichtflugzeugbau.6576/#post-333178

Daimler L 12 - (Project) 1918 2-engined biplane heavy bomber
- L 12 : 3 x crew; Warren-truss bracing; twin biplane tailplane
- L 12 : 2 x 260 hp Mercedes D.IVa tractor engines; span (??) m
- L 12 : Ordered Sept 1918 as G.1843-15/18; canc. Nov 1918
-- Semi-complete L 12 stored at Sindelfingen, less engines*
-- * Then offered unsuccessfully to Chile as a 3-seat bomber
-- (Project) Postwar civil transport derived from L12 airframe

Daimler L 13 - (??) hypothetical desig.; poss. Klemm design

Daimler L 14 - 1919 2-seat parasol escort fighter prototype
- L 14 : Parallel development to single-seat L 11 fighter
- L 14 : 1 x 185 hp Daimler D IIIb V8 engine; span 12.30 m
- L 14 : Hanns Klemm design; offered unsuccessfully to Chile
- L 14V: (Project) mailplane derivative; no sales; never built

Daimler L 15 - 1919 2-seat ultralight motorglider/tourer a/c
- L 15 : Sometimes refered to as the 'Klemm-Daimler L-15'
- L 15 : Strut-braced low-winged monoplane w/ open cockpit
- L 15 : 1 x 7.5 hp Indian motorcycle engine; span 12.60 m
- L 15 : Damaged before flying; repaired in 1922 as L 15a*
-- * Init. flown with Indian V2 air-cooled motorcycle engine
-- * Could be flown as a glider w/ passenger seat in nose
- L 15a: Shoulder-wing monoplane with cockpit moved aft
- L 15a: 1 x 12.5 hp Harley-Davidson engine; span 16.10 m
- WL 15: (Wasser) 1924; L 15a floatplane on twin pontoons
- WL 15a: (Project) Proposed 2-seat variant; aka L 15Wa
- L 15a: 1 x 20 hp Daimler F7506 6-cyl. (by Karl Schopper)
- L 15a: 1 x 20 hp Daimler F7502 HO2 (Ferdinand Porsche)
- L 15a: Modified airframe for 1 x 40 hp Salmson AD9 radial

Daimler L 16 - 1924 light single-seat high-wing monoplane
- L 16 : Few details; said to be directly derived from L 15
- L 16 : 1 x 12 hp Harley-Davidson V2 engine; span (??) m

Daimler L 17 - 1923 single-seat high-winged test vehicle; x 1
- L 18 : Strut-braced 3-piece wing based of that of the L 15
- L 18 : 1 x 12 hp Harley-Davidson V2 engine;* span 10.20 m
-- * Engine mounted on the front spar of wing centre section

Daimler L 18 - 1924 single-seat wing profile test vehicle; x 1
- L 18 : Compared with L 15, wing profile thinner & narrower
- L 18 : 1 x 12 hp Harley-Davidson V2 engine;* span 17.10 m
-- New L 18 wing design also incorporated leading edge slats
-- * Some sources claim multiple engine types tested on L 18
-- * 20 hp Daimler F7506; Daimler F46756; 30 hp Salmson AD

Daimler L 19 - (Project) Experimental flight-test light aircraft
- L 19: Intended to test high, shoulder, & low wing positions
-- Abandoned when low-wing position chosen for prod'n L 20

Daimler L 20 - 1920 2-seat low-wing monoplane light a/c; x 82
- L 20A : Prototypes; 1 x 20 hp Harley-Davidson V2 engine; x 3
- L 20A1: L 20A conv. to prod'n-standard Daimler F7502 engine
- WL 20 : (Wasser); L 20A1 prototype conv. to floatplane
- L 20B1: 1925; as L 20A1 except torsion box-reinf'd wings; x 1
-- Klemm-Daimler L20B1: 79 x Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm series
- L 20C1 – 2 x L 20A1 conv. with shorter wings as per the L 18*
-- * Thinner, narrow-chord wings known as Sport-Tragflächen

Daimler L 21 - 1925 single-seat twin-engined sports aircraft; x 2
- L 21 : Strut-braced parasol wing; overhung aileron balancers*
- L 21 : 2 x 20 hp Daimler F7502a air-cooled HO2s; span 10.80 m
-- * As per the wartime L 11 fighter; aka 'Daimler-Klemm L 21
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/daimler-klemm-l-21.15069/

Daimler L 22 - 1927 experimental Daimler L 20 derivative; x 1
- L 22 : Plywood-covered wooden structure (incl. ribs/frames)
- L 22 : 1 x 20 hp Daimler F 7502 HO2 'Boxer'; span m
-- Last airframe made by Daimler Motorenwerke Gesellschaft
- L 22 : aka Daimler Klemm L 22
- L 22a: 1929; re-engined L 22 prototype; 1 x Salmson 9Ad
- Kl 22: Revised L 22a; canopies; inline engine; spatted u/c
- Kl 22: 1932; 1 x 80 hp Hirth HM 60 inline 4-cyl.; span 12.00 m
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Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm Aircraft Designations

As noted above, Klemm type designations originating with the Daimler-Motorenwerke-Gesellschaft aircraft designation series. DGM's 'L' designation sequence would be continued by the Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm GmbH until long after the RLM applied its 'Kl' company designation in 1933. After that, a new 'Kl 10x' sequence was begun. However, the 'Kl' prefix was also allied as a backformation to old DGM-style type numbers - eg: the L 25 becoming Kl 25 or the 'L 31' emerging as the Kl 31.

The RLM system later imposed its own numbering sequence running from the 1937 Kl 104 to the wartime Kl 107. [2] When aircraft production was allowed to resume in postwar West Germany, Klemm teamed with Ludwig Bölkow to restart production of KL 107 series lightplanes. Here, the Nazi-era lower-case 'l' was replaced with a capital letter but the RLM numbered was retained. This would be the last aircraft type produced under the Klemm name but its numbering would influence Bölkow 's KL 107 derivative - the Bö 207.

A Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm Designation Anomaly

One anomaly is the Klemm Alpha motorglider - an ultralight glider fitted with a 'hilfmotor'. In his list, hesham has suggested that the Alpha may have been designation L 29. At first glance, that seems to make sense - especially considering the close structural relationship between the Alpha and the L 30 2-seat light aircraft. Unfortunately, there is no evidence. Contemporary Klemm documents discuss the commonality of the Alpha and the L 30 without any mention of an 'L 29'. So, I will list the anomalous Alpha here:

Klemm Alpha - 1931 experimental motorglider; 1 x prototype
-- Anomalous naming with no know 'L' (or other) numbered desig.
- Alpha: Prototype D-2217 (WNr. 261); insufficient glide rate
- Alpha: 1 x 20 hp Daimler F7502 aux. engine; span 14.00 m
- Alpha: Devel. ended 1932; used as teaching aid by Klemm*
-- * Destroyed by Allied bombing at Böblingen in Oct. 1943
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/klemm-alpha.33477/

Since hesham has gone out on a speculative limb, I will follow his example. Here, with no evidence whatsoever, I am going to posit possible explanations for the Alpha naming anomaly. To wit, circa 1930, the Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm may have toyed with dropping the 'L' designation sesquence inherited from Daimler. In this speculative notion, the Alpha may have been seen as the first of a new generation which was later aborted.

But, in Klemm documents, that Alpha naming and the L 30 designation coincide. Taking that into account, a more probable theory is that Klemm considered dropping designations for names for gliders alone. That might explain why a named motorglider and a designated light trainer were being developed concurrently. But, of course, that motorglider was a flop and, thus, there never was a Klemm 'Beta'.

All speculation aside, what we do know is that there is no evidence that the designation 'L 29' was ever applied.

A Note on Style

Early Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm designations are presented in a range of ways. In contemporary German sources, the are most often present with a space between the 'L' and type number. I have chosen to standardise on this form (despite modern German usage commonly omitting that space). Contemporary English language sources tended to insert a period or hyphen between the 'L' and type number.

Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm sub-type variant suffix styles vary over time. Initially, lower-case letters were applied (although the aviation press often capitalised these anyway). Other times, sub-type variants with more major changes were indicated with Roman numerals (sometimes followed by lower-case letters). Those Roman numerals get confusing because competition klasse designators were also regularly appended to Klemm designations - again in Roman numerals.

There were exceptions to the capitalisation rule - eg: the L 25E (for Europa Rundflug) - but these were more marketing department exercises. In the example given, the actual Klemm designation was L 25 Ve (qv) but 'E' for Europa just looked better on the brochures. Another capital was the 'W' for Wasser that was typically applied to floatplanes. These too varied. A generic designation was L 25 W for any L 25 airframe fitted with floats while the designation L 25 IW referred specifically to an L 25 I-model floatplane.

When the Nazi-era RLM imposed its designation style upon German manufacturers, sub-type suffixes officially became capitalised. Even still, 'Kl' for 'L' backformation designations will often be seen retaining their original, lower-case sub-type suffixes. After 1934, Versuch nummern are also seen being appended to Klemm prototype designations.

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Leichtflugzeugbau Klemm 'L' and 'Kl' Designations

L 23 - (??) no details; type number presumed reserved [1]
- L 23: Wiki.de suggests being held for experimental aircraft

L 24 - (??) no details; type number presumed reserved
- L 24: Wiki.de suggests being held for experimental aircraft

L 25 - 1927 2-seat low-wing light sports monoplane; x ~660
- L 25a : 1927-29 production model; various 20-60 hp engines
-- L 25a : Base model; 1 x 20 hp Daimler F5702; span 13.00 m
-- L 25a VI: (Planned) 1 x 40-50 hp BMW X 5-cyl. radial engine
-- L 25a VI: 1 x 50-60 hp BMW Xa 5-cyl.; eg: D-EMBX W.Nr. 149
- L 25 I: 1928-29 prod'n model; 1 x 45 ps Salmson AD.9 radial
-- L 25 Ia: 1 x 40 ps Salmson AD.9 9-cyl. radial; span 13.00 m
-- L 25 Ia: aka 'L.25a-1' (eg: April 1929, April 1930 Flight, etc.)
-- L 25 IW: (Wasser) Twin-float seaplane version of L 25 Ia
- L 25b: 1931 prod'n variant; various engine types installed
-- L 25b : 1931; 1 x 22 hp Daimler (Mercedes) F5702a HO2
-- L 25b I: 1 x 40 hp Salmson 9Ad 9-cylinder radial engine
-- L 25b IV: 1932 Armstrong-Siddeley Genet 5-cylinder radial
-- L 25b VI: 1 x 40-50 hp BMW X 5-cylinder radial engine
-- L 25b VII: 1 x 60-65 hp Hirth HM 60 inverted 4-cylinder engine
-- L 25bf VII: Had reduced wingspan and a modified fuselage
-- L 25b VIIR: 1 x 80 hp Hirth HM 60R inverted 4-cylinder engine
-- L 25bf VIIR: Had reduced wingspan and a modified fuselage
-- L 25b XI: 1 x 85 hp Pobjoy R 7-cylinder air-cooled radial
-- L 25c VII: 1933
-- L 25d II : 1933; 1 x 85 hp Siemens-Halske Sh 13a radial
-- L 25d VII: 1 x 60-65 hp Hirth HM 60 4-cylinder
-- L 25d VIIR: 1934; 1 x 80 hp Hirth HM 60R 4-cyl.
-- L 25e VII : (??) no details but not the same as the L 25E
-- L 25E : (Europa Rundflug); same as the L 25 Ve (qv)
-- L 25 IVa: 1 x 80 hp Armstrong Siddeley Genet 5-cylinder
-- L 25 Va: 3-seater; canopy; 1 x 105 hp Argus As 8 4-cylinder
-- L 25 Ve: 1930 for Europa Rundflug; canopy; shorter wings
-- L 25 Ve: aka L 25E; 1 x 105 hp Argus As 8 4-cylinder inline
-- L 25 W: Salmson 9Ad-powered twin-float seaplane conv.*
-- * As per listing in Jan 1932 Flight magazine
-- No desig. change known for L 25 testing 'personnel pods'
-- British Klemm/British Aircraft Swallow desig. omitted
-- US Aeromarine built L 25 variant designations also omitted
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/aeromarine-projects-and-prototypes.18424/page-3#post-266549
-- Horace Keane Aircraft 1937 Ford V8-powered L 25 omitted

L 26 - 1929 2-seat low-wing light sports monoplane; x ~170
- L 26 : Reinforced derivative of the L 25 sports/ trainer
- L 26a : 1 x Argus As 8 A-2 4-cyl.; eg Liesel Bach's D-1916
- L 26 II : More powerful; Siemens-Halske Sh 13 radials
-- L 26 IIa : Siemens-Halske Sh 13; eg: D-1801 (WNr. 185)
-- L 26 IIc : Siemens-Halske Sh 13a; eg: D-2412 (WNr. 495)
- L 26 III: 2-seat tourer; fitted with a canopy
- L 26 V : 2-seat trainer/tourer; most produced variant
-- L 26 Va : 1 x 95 hp Argus As 8A-2 inline 4-cylinder
-- L 26 Vc : 1 x 120 hp Argus As 8A-3 inline 4-cylinder
-- L 26 Ve : 1 x 120 hp Argus As 8A-3 inline 4-cylinder
- VL 26 : 3-seat touring aircraft variant

L 27 - 1929 light transport/sports evol. of Klemm VL 26; x 8
- L 27 : Strengthened & lengthened VL 26 fuselage for cargo
- L 27 : Reinf. fwd cockpit bay for freight, mail, newspapers
- L 27 V1: First prototype was probably D-1744 (WNr. 190)
- L 27 V1: 1 x 100 hp Argus As 8 inverted 4-cyl.; span 13.20 m
- FL 27 : 1930 light cargo a/c offering; but no known sales*
-- * Minimal payload; few advantages over L 26s with Argus
- L 27 : FL 27s sold as aerobatics or to German aero-clubs; x 3
- L 27 IIB: 1931 British Klemm conv. to 105 hp Cirrus Hermes IIB
- L 27 III: 1930 British Klemm conv. to 95 hp Cirrus Mark III
- L 27 III: 1931 British Klemm conv. to 107 hp DH Gipsy III

L 28 - 1933 single-seat light aerobatic a/c monoplane; x 1
- L 28 : For Liesel Bach; not accepted until improved, 1934
- L 28 : 1 x 150 hp Siemens Sh 14a 7-cyl.; span 11.00 m
- L 28 : Mixed constr. with wood-clad steel-tube fuselage
- L 28 : aka L 28 XIV (ie: klasse XIV competition a/c)
-- Bach's D-2495 (WNr. 447) won 1934 Coupe Féminine
-- NB: Bach requested that number 28 be reserved for her*
-- * Robert Lusser aerobatic design work prob. since 1919

L 29 - (??) no information
- L 29 : hesham suggests Alpha was L 29; no evidence

L 30 - (Project) 2-seat light training a/c related to Alpha
- L 30: Closely-related structurally to single-seat Alpha*
-- * Wooden wings; steel tube fuselage frame and tailplane
- L 30 : (As planned) 1 x (??) hp Klemm-Aero KA 2-stroke**
-- ** Unrealised Karl Schopper design; devel. cancelled 1936
- L 30: 1 x 46 hp Church Marathon J-3; [2] span 11.50 m
- L 30: (Alt) 1 x 40 hp Argus As 16 HO4 engine; span 11.50 m
- L 30: A 'cutaway' mockup of L 30 built showing Argus As 16

L 31 (Kl 31) - 1931 3-seat competition cabin monoplane; x 36
- Kl 31 : Tourer; wood wings, welded steel-tube fuselage
- Kl 32 : First prototype; WNr. 357; tested winter 1931/32
-- Kl 31 XIV = XIV Sportflugzeug for 1932 Europa Rundflug
- Kl 31 : 1 x 120 hp Argus As 8 inline 4-cyl.; span 13.50 m
-- Kl 31 had stuctural problems; briefly eclipsed by L 32
- Kl 31a: 1 x 160 hp Bramo Sh 14a/A4; span 13.50 m; x 4
- Kl 31a XIV: Sept 1933 series production vers. of Kl 31a
- Kl 31ab : 1934; improved control aids & aerodynamics*
-- * Kl 31ab featured an aerodynamic NACA canopy; x 1
-- * Kl 31ab also featured extensible slats & landing flaps

L 32 - 1931 low-wing cantilever monoplane light a/c; x 36
- L 32 : Robert Lusser design; lighter, reduced-scale Kl 31
- L 32 : L 31 cabin structure applied to wooden L 25 constr.
- L 32 : Wing flaps; 150 hp Siemens Sh 14; span 13.50 m
-- L 32 demonstrator Wnr. 402 became G-ACYU, July 1932
- L 32a : Wing landing flaps omitted; range of engines*
-- * Sh 14a; Argus As 8; DH Gipsy; & Hirth HM 150 4-cyl.
- Kl 32b: Slightly modified fuselage; more powerful radial
-- Kl 32b D-ENIF fitted with extra tanks for Elly Beinhold
- Kl 32b XIV: 1 x 160 hp Siemens Sh 14a; span 13.50 m
- L 32V: VH-UVE (orig. D-2299); Maude Bonney record flight
-- 1937; first Brisbane to Cape Town, SA, flight; 29,088 km

L 33 - 1932 'Volksflugzeug' single-seat ultralight a/c; x 1
- L 33 : Parasol;* very conventional appearance; no brakes
-- * Really a shoulder-wing; slight gap btw wing & fuselage
- L 33 : (As planned) 1 x (??) hp Klemm-Aero KA 2-stroke**
-- ** Karl Schopper design for L 30; devel. cancelled 1936
- L 33 : (As built) 1 x 18 hp DKW P 2-stroke; span 11.00 m
-- DKW P was an inline 2-cylinder adapted from auto use
- L 33 : aka Kl 33; WNr. 374(?); 1938 registration D-EYDO

E 34 - 1932 experimental 2-seat biplane trainer; x 1
- E 34 : Mixed constr.; wood with steel-tube fuselage
- E 34 : 1 x 150 hp Siemens Sh 14A 5-cyl.; span (??) m

Kl 35 - 1935 2-seat light sports/military trainer; x 1,429
- Kl 35 : L 25 devel.; wood-covered steel-tube fuselage
- Kl 35 V1: Feb 1935 1st prototype; D-EHXE (Wnr. 959)
- Kl 35 V1: E-Stelle Rechlin, 01 June; crashed 19 June*
-- * Fatal crash for 2 x E-Stelle personnel; wing failure
- Kl 35 V2: 2nd prototype; D-ERQA (Wnr. 960); Rechlin
- Kl 35A : Klemm (LFK)-built 1st production model; x 57
- Kl 35A : 1 x 80 hp Hirth HM 60R 4-cyl.; span 10.40 m
- Kl 35AW: (Wasser) 1937 twin-float conv. of Wnr.1183
- Kl 35B : Fieseler-built production model; x 142
- Kl 35B : 1 x 105 hp Hirth HM 504 4-cyl.; span 10.40 m
- Kl 35C : Kl 35 airframe adapted to semi-shell constr'n
-- Kl 35C V1: 1937 first prototype; D-EAED (Wnr. 1240)
-- Kl 35C V1: 1 x 65 hp Hirth HM 60 4-cyl.; span 11.20 m
-- Kl 35C V2: 1937 2nd prototype; D-EOKX (Wnr. 1241)
-- Kl 35C V3: 1939 3rd prototype; D-EBCQ (Wnr. 1480)
-- Kl 35C V3: Intended as production Kl 35C prototype*
-- * Proved overweight; Kl 35C prod'n cancelled by RLM
-- * Devel. privately as the non-semi-shell Kl 106 (qv)
- Kl 35D : Revised Zlín prod'n model; tailwheel (not skid)
- Kl 35D : 1 x 105 hp Hirth HM 504A-2 4-cyl.; span 10.40 m
- Kl 35D : 39 x built (vs 332 planned); Bü 181 was superior
- Kl 35E : 1940 prototype; re-engined Kl 35B airframe; x 1
- Kl 35E : 1 x 105 hp Hirth HM 500A-1 4-cyl.; span 10.20 m
- Kl 35E : RLM ordered x 102; Nov 1940, then cancelled **
-- ** Travemünde tested D-EGJK; eclipsed by the Bü 181
- KL 35-D160: 1960s Wolf Hirth GmbH, Nabern, conv. ; x 2
- KL 35-D160: 1 x 160 hp Walter Minor; span 10.20 m
- KL 35-D160: aka KL 35 Special; Wnr. 2013 still flying
-- No designations are known for wartime exper. mods ***
-- *** DFS 230 'Mistel'; 'Zwilling'; or DVL mods

Kl 36 - 1934 single-engined 4-seat cabin monoplane tourer; x 12
- Kl 36 : F. Fecher design specifically for 1934 Europa Rundflug
- Kl 36 : 1 x 225-to-250 hp inline (various types);* span 12.00 m
- Kl 36 V1: 1 x 225 hp Argus As 17 inverted 6-cyl.; span 12.00 m
- Kl 36A XVII: Comp. a/c; 1 x Argus As 17a; D-IJIP (WNr. 656)
- Kl 36A XII : Comp. a/c; 1 x Hirth HM8U; D-IHEK (WNr. 657)
- Kl 36A XVII: D-IDIR (WNr. 658); D-IBAV (' 659); D-IAGO ' 660)*
-- * D-IAGO built as reserve a/c; became the pre-series Kl 36B-01
- Kl 36B : 1935 pre-production; WNr. 660 repl. by D-IKYM WNr. 720
- Kl 36B : 160 hp Siemens-Halske Sh 14A-1 or Hirth HM 508 ; x 7**
-- ** Oct 1935, RLM ordered 50 x Kl 36B; order cancelled March 1936
-- ** All 7 x Kl 36B later transferred to the DVL for research uses
-- Kl 36B/Kl 36 V7 (D-IUHU) fitted with outward retracting main u/c

E 37 - (Project) 1935 4-seat cabin tourer; low-wing monoplane
- E 37 : 2 x 250 hp Hirth HM 8U air-cooled IV-8; span (??) m
- E 37 : Concept realised in 1937 Klemm Kl 104/Fh 104 Hallore
-- NB: Zöller lists as "Kl 37 (E.37)" suggesting advanced stage

E 63 - (Project) 1934 2-seat carrier-borne parasol recce monoplane
- E 63 : Braced parasol; spatted main u/c; open or closed cockpit
- E 63 : 1 x Junkers or BMW inverted V12 engine;* span 14.00 m
-- * 680 hp Junkers Jumo 210A or 700 hp BMW XII/BMW 116
- E 63 : All work on E 63 & E 64 projects cancelled in Jan. 1935
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/klemm-e-63-64.2189/#post-18559

E 64 - (Project) 1934 2-seat carrier-borne reconaissance biplane
- E 64 : Single bay wings; spatted main u/c; open or closed cockpit
- E 64 : 1 x Junkers or BMW inverted V12 engine;* span 12.00 m
-- * 680 hp Junkers Jumo 210A or 700 hp BMW XII/BMW 116
- E 64 : All work on E 64 & E 63 projects cancelled in Jan. 1935
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/klemm-e-63-64.2189/#post-18560

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[1] Note: OCR often misinterprets numerals from blackletter fonts used in pre-WW2 German newspapers and other publications. Eg: Page 3, 28 July 1930, Beiblatt der Danziger Volhsstimme where OCR presents 'Klemm L. 23 e' [sic] which is clearly readable as "Klemm L. 25 e" in the original text.

[2] The Marathon J-3 was a inline 4-cylinder from the Chicago-based Church Airplane Company. Derived from the Heath-Henderson B-4 motorcycle engine, Marathon J-3 displacement was increased to 108 cid (1.77 litres). Argus Motoren Gesellschaft negotiated unsuccessfully with Church to secure a license for German production of the Marathon J-3.

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Klemm Aircraft Designations - RLM 'Century' Series

The officially RLM designations for Klemm aircraft skipped from the backformation Kl 36 to Kl 104. The RLM assigned the designation 'block' 8-104, 8-105, 8-106, and 8-107 to Klemm Flugzeugwerke designs. Then the RLM numbers jumped to another 'block' - 8-151 to 8-155. [1] Of those, only the Kl 151 prototype was realised. The other numbers remained unused by Klemm (which the RLM tasked with building Me 163B wings instead of developing original designs). As a result, the unused 8-152 to 8-155 'block' was later reassigned to other manufacturers. [2]

The full sequence was 8-104/Kl 104;* 8-105/Kl 105; 8-106/Kl 106; and 8-107/Kl 107. RLM designations were often in clumps by manufacturer but not in a continuous sequence. [3] As a result, the next official RLM designation was 8-151/Kl 151. That said, the index for Klemm-Flugzeuge Band I by Paul Zöller (Books on Demand, 2020) does have a listing for "(Klemm Kl 101 - Kl 104)" but what the significance of his parentheses are is unknown to me. [4]

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Klemm RLM 'Kl 1xx' Aircraft Designation Series

Kl 104 - 1937 twin-engined tourer/trainer prototype; x 1
- Kl 104 : Friedrich Fecher tourer; design begun in 1936
- Kl 104 : 2 x 270 hp Hirth HM 508A IV-8; span 12.00 m
- Kl 104: Sole product of Klemm-Flugzeugwerke Halle
-- Kl 104 rebranded Fh 104* with Nazi take-over at Halle
-- * RLM code 'Fh' for [Klemm-]Flugzeugwerke Halle
- Fh 104 : More powerful Siebel production model; x 46

Kl 105 - 1938 single-engine 2-seat cabin tourer/sport a/c; x 12
- Kl 105 : Moulded half-shell wooden fuselage; span 10.92 m
-- Kl 105 V1 : D-EPQH (WNr. 1242); 50 hp Zündapp Z9-092 IV-4
-- Kl 105 V2 : D-ERHS (WNr. 1243); 65 hp Hirth HM 515 IV-4
-- Kl 105 V3 : D-EWPA (WNr. 1247); 3rd prototype machine
-- Kl 105 V4 : D-EWVD (WNr. 1248); 1st pre-production a/c
-- Kl 105 V5 : D-EWVD (WNr. 1648); poss. only fuselage done
-- Kl 105 V6 : (WNr. 1650); fatally crashed on 05 July 1939*
-- * Wings collapsed; fuselage re-used for Kl 107 V1 D-EXKL
-- Kl 105 V7 (WNr. 1651); V8 (WNr. 1652); V9 (WNr. 1653)
-- V10 (WNr. 1654); V11 (WNr. 1655); V12 (WNr. 1656)**
-- ** WNr.1656 not finished; completed as Kl 107 V2 D-ERKS

Kl 106 - 1939 revision of 1937 Kl 35C 2-seat trainer; x 8
- Kl 106 : Kl 35C devel. meant for US license production*
-- * Wiki.de lists US firm William Davis Corporation [5]
- Kl 106 : Abandoned semi-shell for mixed contruction
- Kl 106 V1: 1939 conversion of Kl 35C V3 (Wnr. 1480)
- Kl 106 V1: 1 x 80 hp Hirth HM 60A 4-cyl.; span 11.20 m
- Kl 106 V1: Bucher made revisions to reduce the weight
- Kl 106 A-0: 1939 pre-production series airframes; x 7
- Kl 106 A-0: 1 x 105 hp Hirth HM 504A; span 11.20 m
- Kl 106 A-0: Civil registrations - D-EPQG; D-ECAH;
-- D-EQMR; D-EDFK; D-ERQS; D-EECD; and D-ESHR

Klemm Kl 107 - 1939 2-seat side-by-side cabin tourer/trainer
- Kl 107 : Improved, more powerful derivative of Kl 105; x 6
- Kl 107 : 1 x 105 hp Hirth HM 500A-1 4-cyl.; span 10.87 m
-- Kl 107 V1: 1939 prototype; D-EXKL; WNr. 1650 (re-use)*
-- * Note: Fuselage of Kl 105 V6 incorporated into Kl 107 V1
-- Kl 107 V2 D-ERKS (WNr. 1656); V3 D-ENQR (WNr. 1657)
-- Kl 107 V4 D-EWVD (WNr. 1648); V5 D-ESKL (WNr. 1659)
-- Kl 107 V6 D-EVNV (WNr. 1655); Kl 107 V7 & V8 unfinished
- KL 107 : Postwar production type based on Kl 107 V6
-- KL 107A: First prod'n prototype; D-ECAD (wk.nr 101)**
-- Flown by Karl Voy; 04 Sept 1956; Stuttgart-Echterdingen
- KL 107A: 1 x 90 hp Continental C90-12F; span 10.87 m
-- ** Kl 107 V8 completed as prod'n type; underpowered
- KL 107B: 1958 prod'n; more power; 'blown' canopy; x 24
- KL 107B: 1 x 150 hp Lycoming O-320 HO4; span 10.84 m
- KL 107C: 3-seat development of KL 107B 2-seater; x 29
- KL 107C: 1 x 150 hp Lycoming O-320 HO4; span 10.84 m
- KL 107D: 1960 4-seat devel.; inspired by wartime Kl 151
- KL 107D: 1 x 180 hp Lycoming O-360A; span 10.84 m; x 1
- KL 107D: Prototype D-EGSA (WNr. 201); leads to Bo 207

Kl 151 - 1942 4-seat development of the 2-seat Kl 107; x 1*
- Kl 151 : Intended as wooden repl. for Messerschmitt Bf 108
- Kl 151 : By chief designer Carl Bucher and Hanns Klemm
- Kl 151 V1: 1 x 240 hp Argus As 10C IV-8; span 11.21 m; x 1
- Kl 151 V1: Flown by Klemm test pilot Karl Voy, 10 Sept 1942
- Kl 151 V1: Luftwaffe TB+QK; 19 July 1944, dest. by bombing
- Kl 151 V2: Prototype constr. begun by Zlín; not completed**
-- ** Under the German occupation, Zlín was building Kl 35s
-- ** Outward retr. main gear inclusion, on-again/off-again
- Kl 151A: (Project) Zlín prod'n type; unclear if retractable u/c
- Kl 151B: (Project) Devel. with 1 x 355 hp Argus As 410 IV-12
-- Kl 151 construction plans moved to Sweden until WW2's end
- KL 151 : (Project) Considered postwar Kl 151 production ***
-- *** Kemm-Flugzeuge GmbH chose to build KL 107 instead
-- NB: 4-seat Kl 151 led indirectly to postwar KL 107D/Bö 207

Kl 152 - (Project) 4-seat light cabin twin based on the Kl 151
- Kl 152 : Fuselage as per Kl 151; main u/c retr. into nacelles
- Kl 152 : 2 x 95 hp Hirth HM 504 inverted 4-cyl.;* span (??) m
-- * hesham listed "HM 506" but this was 160 hp 6-cylinder
-- * NB: Quoted 95 hp was for 30 min at S/L; T/O rating 105 hp
- Kl 152 : Outshone by Go 150; RLM number reallocated to Tank
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/klemm-kl-152-project.5394/

Kl 153 - (Project) 4-crew high-winged, twin-boomed recce a/c
- Kl 153 : Intended to compete Fieseler Fi.156; spatted u/c
- Kl 153 : 2 x 160 hp* Hirth HM 506A 6-cyl.; span 16.60 m
- Kl 153 : Dubbed 'Späher' (Scout); Klemm project HK 4012
-- * Not 95 hp (clearly listed on specs); total power "320 PS"
- Kl 152 : Not pursued; RLM number was reallocated to Tank
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/klemm-kl-153-späher-scout.22944/

Kl 154 - RLM allocated 8-154 to Klemm but was never used*
-- * Reassigned to Kurt Tank of Focke-Wulf for Ta 154 Moskito

Kl 155 - RLM allocated 8-155 to Klemm but was never used*
-- * Reassigned first to Messerschmitt, then to Blohm & Voss

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[1] There has been speculation of a Klemm 'Kl 150' project predating the Kl 151 prototype. This is not plausible in that 1942 time period. The RLM had long since assigned 8-150 to Gotha and Albert Kalkert's 1937 Gotha Go 150 light twin was actually a rival to Klemm's underpowered Kl 105 design (with a single Zündapp engine while the Go 150 had two Z9-092s).

[2] Klemm's entire 8-152 to 8-154 'block' would later be reassigned to Kurt Tank of Focke Wulf. The 8-152 became the Ta 152 series; 8-153 was studied as a high-altitude fighter (emerging as the Ta 152H); and the 8-154 became the Ta 154 night-fighter. The 8-155 number was reassigned first to the Messerschmitt Me 155 (ex-Me 409) project which matured as the Blohm & Voss BV 155.

[3] It is worth noting that OCR routinely renders listed KL 107B and KL 107C (ignore those capital 'L's) as 'KL 101B' and 'KL 101C' [sic]. Eg: Air Britain pdfs of Verkehrszulassung der Luftfahrzeuge lists for 1963 and 1975.
-- https://air-britain.com/pdfs/civil-registers-bv/D-Germany/1963_D-BV.pdf
-- https://air-britain.com/pdfs/civil-registers-bv/D-Germany/1975_D-BV.pdf

[4] We can confidently dispense with speculation that 'missing' Kl 10x designations might align with known Siebel aircraft. That 8-101 to 8-103 'block' had long since been allocated to Albatros and applied to their former L 101, L 102, and L 103 designs. In any case, the continued application of Klemm designations to Friedrich Fecher designs for Siebel after the Dec 1937 split would be unthinkable. (Hanns Klemm quite rightly viewed the Nazis' forced take over of his Halle plant under 'Fritz' Siebel, as a personal betrayal.)

[5] Note that several online Russian sources list a "Davis & Co." [sic]. However, those RU sources are generally confused regarding the overall Kl 35C to Kl 106 development story.
 
... and by the way,the source for L 23,L 24,Kl 101,Kl 102 & Kl 103 is that book,

Thanks hesham. Yes, I saw the index in an Amazon preview. Do you have any details on these numbers from Paul Zöller's book?
 
The Klemm L 22 to L 24 are only mentioned in one sentence in the book, a bit more is about the Kl 101 and 102. And it seems that there is no such thing as the Klemm Kl 103 (see below).

From the book Klemm-Flugzeuge I:

"Hanns Klemm probably reserved the Klemm numbers L 22 to L 24 for the experimental construction. However, nothing is known about a Klemm L 23/L 24."

and later on:

"The Klemm Kl 36 marked the end of the consecutive type numbering system that had begun at Daimler in 1916 and was retained throughout the Klemm range. From 1934, the type numbering for all German aircraft manufacturers was specified by the RLM. Number ranges were assigned to specific manufacturers. Hanns Klemm was given the type numbers 105 to 107 for his experimental series in partial-shell construction, but it is also possible that the type numbers 101 to 104 were initially reserved for RLM tenders with Klemm participation:

- 101: RLM tender from autumn 1935 for a liaison and observation aircraft.

-102: RLM tender from early 1937 for a two-seater training aircraft

-104: RLM invitation to tender from August 1935 for a five-seater touring aircraft

The development of the later Siebel Sh 104 was demonstrably begun by Fecher in Böblingen under the designation Klemm Kl 104. After the transfer of development to the Klemm branch factory in Halle, the design was later given the designation FwH Fh 104. The designations Klemm Kl 101 and Kl 102 were presumably also used for the later Siebel Si 201 and Si 202 in Böblingen. However, Friedrich Fecher only started work on these two designs in Halle, so that the Klemm designations cannot be verified.

There is no evidence of the use of the designation ‘103’ either in Böblingen or in Halle. It is possible that this was a placeholder for the design of the Klemm E 63/E 64 carrier aircraft, which was also not commissioned by the RLM until 1935.

Regardless of the use of the designation KL 102 to Kl 104 in Böblingen, the development took place in Halle under Friedrich Siebel and Friedrich Fecher.

Hanns Klemm had no influence on the development of these aeroplanes."
 
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