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Hi All,
Tried the search function and didn't find anything,
Likewise tried searches on the net, zilch.. nada...

I am after a drawing of the gloster F9/37 with the peregrine engines fitted, anyone seen any, or know of a link ?

cheers
Jerry
 

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Can someone confirm what the armament of this aircraft was? The diagram states there are three 20mm cannon in the top of the fuselage, they appear to be fowards firing? And there looks to be another pair of weapons in the nose?

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Found the same drawing on my HD (unfortunately the source, I've noted is wrong.
Sloppy again :-[ ! ) and another one showing the weapons installation. All guns were
tilted upwards. On another 3-view, showing the taurus powered version, it is stated,
that the F9/37 was originally developed as a turret fighter. the prototype is said to have
carried ballast weights, which would have been replaced by the battery of three 20mm
hispano guns.
Stargazer, can you mention the source, so that I can rectify my files ?
 

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'Interceptor' by Goulding and Moyes??
 

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Nope, unfortunately. This was part of a batch of pics I got from someone else.
 

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With 5 20mm cannon and reasonable performance this looks like it could have been a very impressive bomber destroyer in the summer of 1940.................
 

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Great, thanks! Does anyone know whether the name "Reaper" that has been quoted for this aircraft was official at Gloster or a pilot's invention?
 
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F.9/37 was not named Reaper, that was appended to the F.18/40 concept.
I wrote up a piece about the F.9/30 and developments over on the What-If site in 2008:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21240.0.html
 

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joncarrfarrelly said:
F.9/37 was not named Reaper, that was appended to the F.18/40 concept.
I wrote up a piece about the F.9/30 and developments over on the What-If site in 2008:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21240.0.html
Thank you so much for this most informative piece of aviation history about one of my favorite pre-war British aircraft projects! This really puts in perspective the 34/35, 9/37 and 18/40 specs in perspective.
 

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Hi
On the link it refers to the aircraft as a gloster gladius.
Was this the name used for the F.9/37
cheers
Jerry
 

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Other documents have it as the Gloster Gunner...
 
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brewerjerry said:
Hi
On the link it refers to the aircraft as a gloster gladius.
Was this the name used for the F.9/37
cheers
Jerry
The 'Gladius' referred to is the 'What-If' model that prompted my piece on the real aircraft.
Chris gave it that name for his What-if back-story.
 

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Sorry to drag up an old thread! I got that the 'Gladius' was an ATL name rather than OTL, but what of 'Gunner' that was mentioned earlier?

Seems plausible though that rather wait till f.9/37, it could have been developed from f.34/35 as a 'back-up' to f.37/35 (cannon fighter). That is rather than 4 x 20 mm cannon, then maybe 2 x 20 mm cannon +4 x 0.303" machine guns.
 

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Does anyone know whether the official performance test data is available for both the Taurus and Peregrine powered versions of this aircraft?
 

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I haven't seen any official data but I've seen the basic data compiled below. I've only seen climb data for the 1,050hp engine. I assume Tony Buttler took his figures from official data.

1,050hp Taurus T-Sa: 360mph (579km/h) at 15,000ft, service ceiling 30,000ft
900hp Taurus T-Sa III: 332mph (534km/h) at 15,200ft, service ceiling 30,000ft
885hp Peregrine I: 330mph (531km/h) at 15,000ft, service ceiling 28,700ft

Sources: British Aircraft of World War II by David Mondey, 1982 (1994 reprint), The Complete Book of Fighters by Green and Swanborough, British Experimental Combat Aircraft of World War II by Tony Buttler [by far the best source]
 

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Yes, those do seem to be the only figures readily available, and all, presumably, quoting from the same source. However it is the detailed test data that would be of particuler interest as it may serve to confirm/deny the theory regarding the Whirlwind suggested by Matt Beerman in The Aviation Historian and elsewhere.
 

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Flitzer said:
Found a few pics on my old files.
The Reaper was actually designed to F.18/40 although derived from the original F.9/37 aircraft
 
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