Caproni aircraft designations

[Maveric]

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[Jemiba]

Nothing in this book ?.

Sorry, no. And neither in "Aeroplani Caproni". vol. 1 and 2, by Rosario Abate, too.
And only mentions, without any graphics in Barbero "100 Aeroprani Caproni" ....

 

[Petrusja]

Hi,

sorry...
the Ca.81 was a recce aircraft project 192?.

Origin the Ca.87 was a bomber, later need for a transatlantic flight.

Servus

Hello, is there more information about this? Other sources suggest that the Ca.87 Polonia was rebuilt from a Ca.73ter for Poland, but it sounds plausible that it was built as a four-engine bomber first.

Peter

 

[hesham]

Hello, is there more information about this? Other sources suggest that the Ca.87 Polonia was rebuilt from a Ca.73ter for Poland, but it sounds plausible that it was built as a four-engine bomber first.

Peter

From a book about Caproni.

 

[hesham]

The Caproni-Vizzola C.V.7 is true designation,it was two seat biplane,intended to compete,
CANSA C.6,Breda Ba.205,SAIMAN-208,Caproni Ca.605 & Ca.606.


Dimensione Cielo - Scuola-Collegamento vol. 11

Hi,

CV.7

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/caproni-vizzola-cv-3-cv-4-cv-5-cv-6-cv-7-series.44671/

 

[hesham]

Also C.V.3, C.V.4, C.V.5 & C.V.6

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/caproni-vizzola-cv-3-cv-4-cv-5-cv-6-cv-7-series.44671/

 

[Stargazer]

Browsing through the Caproni documents currently on auction at Mallams, I realize that the whole Ca.312/Ca.312 bis thing is not as clearcut as it seemed. Indeed, there were both a landplane AND a seaplane for each version. Also, there are two images of the supposedly unbuilt Ca.312 I.S., but I'll admit they could be just retouched photos of existing variants.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Removed a bit of an argument between hesham and Stargazer over duplicate posts.

This is the Caprioni designation topic, you can add new / confirmed designations here. Link to the source be it a forum topic or something else.

 

[!Mark]

Jet target drone and a propeller target drone designed by Caproni Vizzola! I had never seen this before, and I don't think this has been posted on the forum yet

Found on the Mallams auction website:

https://www.mallams.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-63---two-pencil-drawings-of-1940s-drones/?lot=179032&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=565&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=1&pp=96&pn=1&g=1

 

[!Mark]

Caproni (Taliedo) Ca.200-Block Designations - Multi-Engined Aircraft

Ca.200 - (??)

Ca.201 - (Project) High-altitude bomber
-- MM.193R assigned?

Ca.202 - (??)
-- NB: Ca.202 listed as captured by RAAF in 1941
-- http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/tag/royal-australian-air-force

Ca.203 - (??)

Ca.204 - (Project) 1938-1939, 4-engined long-range bomber
- Ca.204: Submission for Bombardiere a Grande Raggio (BGR)
-- Ca.204 bomber design by ing. Caratti; related to Ca.211 (qv)
- Ca.204: High-winged monoplane, retr. main u/c, twin tails
-- Ca.204 shared basic structure with trimotor Ca.211 (qv)
- Ca.204: Several versions w/ different engines/arrangements
-- Ca.204 variant: 4 x 1,500 hp I-F Asso L.180 IRCC
-- Ca.204 variant: 4 x 1,250 hp I-F Zeta R.C.42
-- http://www.alieuomini.it/files/anteprima/medium/caproni_ca204_modello_aerodinamico,3168.jpg
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,13074.msg129334.html#msg129334

Ca.205 - (Project) 1938/1939 multi-engined long-range bomber
- Ca.205: Project related to Ca.204
- Ca.205: Higher payload by sacrificing defensive armament

Ca.206 - (??)

Ca.207 - 1937-1938 monoplane, no other details
- Ca.207: G7 p84

Ca.208 - (??)
Ca.209 - (??)
Ca.210 - (??)

Ca.211 - (Project) 1938-39 3-engined long-range bomber
- Ca.211: High-winged monoplane, retr. main u/c, twin tails
-- Ca.211 design by ing. Caratti; related to 4-engine Ca.204
-- Ca.211 shared basic structure with 4-engined Ca.204 (qv)
- Ca.211: Submission for Bombardiere a Grande Raggio (BGR)
-- Four-engined Ca.204 concept pref. over Ca.111 trimotor
- Ca.211(?): Proposed higher-speed (575 km/h top) variant
-- http://www.alieuomini.it/files/anteprima/medium/caproni_ca204_modello_aerodinamico,3168.jpg
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/th...hree-engined-long-range-bomber-project.44669/

Ca.212 - (??)
Ca.213 - (??)

Ca.214 - (Project) Tandem two-seat aerobatic trainer
- Ca.214: In competition with Predappio-built Ca.602 (qv)
- Ca.214: 1 x 500 hp I-F Gamma R.C.35 V-12, span ?? m
-- Alt. Reggiane Motore Vortex mentioned 21 Sept. 1939
-- Declared non-suitable by DGCA* director, gen. Bruno
-- * Direzione superiore del Genio e delle Costruzioni Aeronautiche

Ca.215 - (??)

Ca.216 - (Project) 1940 High-wing, twin-tailed airliner*
- Ca.216: Tricycle u/c, sim. appearance to British DH.95
- Ca.216: 2 x 700 hp I-F Delta RC.35-I, span 16.90 m**
-- * Jap. pub. referencing Interavia 734, 1940/11/5
-- ** Poss. 15.10 m (that may be length, I can't read Japanese)
-- https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp%2Farticle2Fjjsass1934%2F8%2F75%2F8_75_774%2F_pdf

Ca.217 - (??)
Ca.218 - (??)
Ca.219 - (??)
Ca.220 - (??)
Ca.221 - (??)
Ca.222 - (??)
Ca.223 - (??)
Ca.224 - (??)

Ca.225 - (Project) Twin-engined 2-seat low-wing attack bomber
- Ca.225: 2 x 1,250 hp I-F Zeta RC.42,* span 14.80 m
-- 4 x 20 mm cannons, 2 x 12.7 mm machine guns, 395 mph
-- * Not 2 x 800 hp I-F Delta RC.1750 (sic)

Ca ... - (??)

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Here is the Ca.220, a twin engine transport monoplane. There is a table for a troop transport version but the drawings are all of a different version:
- Ca.220 troop transport powered by 2 I.F. Zeta 1200 CV
- Ca.220 "Militare" version powered by 2 Doppio Delta 1500 CV, and with bombs

Date is 1940

 

[Apophenia]

Thanks for that, @!Mark ... and good find.

The Ca.220 was a beautiful design. Unusual, though, that the troop transport was more powerful than the bomber variant!

I would also like to hear more about the Isotta-Fraschini Doppio Delta engines powering the bomber variant. From the cowling shape, it was obviously an X-24 type engine but I see no openings for air cooling on the drawings.

 

[hesham]

Ca.495 - (??) Recce-bomber linked with "Piaggio P.32"*
- Ca.495: Prob. typo for Ca.405 Procellaria (qv)
-- * Dimensione Cielo: Immagini (G4)

What was this my dear Apophenia,from which link ?

 

[Apophenia]

What was this my dear Apophenia,from which link ?

No link. That would have been referencing Vol.4 of Dimensione Cielo: Bombardieri-Ricognitori, Edizioni dell-Ateneo & Bizzarri, Roma, 1978