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British 1960 manned Lunar Project

Michel Van

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back in 1960 P. A. E. Stewart proposed a British manned Moon Program

with the use of Blue Streak and Black Knight technolgy

phase 1, 1960 to 1963 first probes (ranger types) to the moon
Phase 2, 1964 to 1967 Hardware testing on earth Low orbit and Lunar Orbit.
phase 3, 1968 to 1969 the first manned landing in Piazzi Smyth crater
Phase 4, 1970 to 1971 The lunar surface expedition (70 days)

the First Rockets are Blue Prince like
(Blue Streak HTP/Rp-1, second stage with 4 stenton engine and later Lox/Lh2 upper stage)

for Manned Lunar Landing they need bigger Rocket
the Blue Streak is modifed to 12 x RZ.2 engine in first stage and reusable
the second stage is a Blue Prince or a Nuclear upper stage
with ammonia- or hydrogen-fueled, it brings 7 tons to lunar surface
i nic name this one Blue Dart or Black Dart ;D

the Landing take place on in Piazzi Smyth crater, near Mt. Piton in Mare Imbrium.
on Phase 4 there small Lunar base were surface expedition hardware is assembling
landed by unmanned cargo flights

the Expeditions are two teams.
one move to northward for Mt. Pico, Plato, and Alpine Valley.
at Plato they resupply by unmanned Cargo lander
two move southward, exploring Cassini, Aristillus, and Archimedes craters.
at Aristillus they resupply by unmanned Cargo lander

as Capsul they use Mercury type spacecraft
later a Armstrong Whitworth waverider (lifting body)

http://beyondapollo.blogspot.com/2009/02/surface-exploration-of-moon-1960.html

Surface Exploration of the Moon, P. A. E. Stewart,
Spaceflight, Volume 3, Number 2, March 1961, pp. 34-48;
paper presented at the British Interplanetary Society, London, United Kingdom,
September 17, 1960.

question
has some one more info on this Big Lunar Rocket ?
thanks in advance
 

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From "Eagle Book Of Rockets And Space Travel" 1961 by John W R Taylor and Maurice Allward.

Advance Lander.
 

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Thx Barrington
that must be one of Phase 1 automatic lander.

here some internal link image

note on right, the lunar lander with two Armstrong-Whitworth Pyramid
(a 4 men craft ?)


Crew return to earth
 

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hey there! :) was one of my fav movies ever
suspect that UK manned Moon mission would be ... stylish
 

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What's the name of the film?

Look they wear diving helmets in the Moon!!!!
 

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best scene from that movie ;D

WHAT the Brits were before us on the Moon ?!#§
 
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agreed, that is what I always want to see
 

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more insane of that scene is
the actors wear british Windak spacesuit !

and spezial thanks on Barrington Bond for those Picture
 

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pometablava said:
What's the name of the film?

Look they wear diving helmets in the Moon!!!!
Hi Pometablava
Of course there are seas on the moon, must be Mare Imbrium! Should have told Mountbatten there were Seas to be found on the Moon, he might not have scuppered the Programme!
 

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Note that the lunar map is South up, i.e. a telescopic view.....

cheers,
Robin.
 

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Michel Van said:
more insane of that scene is
the actors wear british Windak spacesuit !

and spezial thanks on Barrington Bond for those Picture

When I thought the history of the UK/Commonwealth Space Programme could not become even more Bizarre you chaps prove me wrong.
The irony is these appear to be real suits the best in the World for their generation and time that had a direct influence on the USA Apollo Suits, being used in a work of fiction.!
 

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They were in Doctor Who as well ;D

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,5714.15.html

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Barry
 

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Michel Van said:
Does anyone know how the "ground current" telegraph shown in this picture was supposed to work? As I understand it, in a ground-current system you still need to have one wire running between the two stations, but there don't appear to be any wires in use here.
 

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instead transmit telegraph signals by wire they use lunar soil for that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_telegraphy#Ground_and_water_conduction
 

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Michel Van said:
best scene from that movie ;D

WAT the Brits were before us on the Moon ?!#§

Any one know the mark of helmet, is the backpack from other picture of this group the Normalair special?
Is the blue Space Suit is similar to the one on display at the Science Museum?
 

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is that 'Comet' tank chassis depicted in the vehicle artworks ? :eek:
 
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