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Argentinian Unbuilt Projects

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Einspruch, Euer Ehren ! ;) (Your Honour !)
It's quite probably the I.A. 51, I think, which is attacking a ship looking like a clinched County class DDG here.
See the "Fábrica Militar de Aviones - Cronica y Testimonia" ( https://de.scribd.com/document/104898611/Fabrica-militar-de-aviones-cronicas-y-testimonios or http://es.slideshare.net/ramoncopa/fabrica-militardeavionescronicasytestimonios-por-angel-cesar-arreguez ,
we already had it here, but with a different link, AFAIK)
And according to that source, the second type is the I.A.55 ...
 

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Ok, I see only the marks on the planes... ;)
 

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IMO, this plane marked IA-47 looks more like fanboi art than anything credible.
Just like the whole page it is on.


Scouring through the whole net and clinging to every little scrape has some value, and Hesham does a terrific contribution of it.
But proper filtering and verifying is essential, lest dubious stuff will creep in.
This being said, I'm certainly not complaining. So far it is impressive how well this forum is doing in this respect. Signal to noise ratio is very high.
 

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dan_inbox said:
IMO, this plane marked IA-47 looks more like fanboi art than anything credible.
Looking at that drawing, I thought the same at first, but actually it fits very well the 3-view
of the I.A. 51 in the mentioned source:
 

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Jemiba said:
Looking at that drawing, I thought the same at first, but actually it fits very well the 3-view of the I.A. 51 in the mentioned source:
Well that's the point: it looks like an drawing rendering some theoretical "project", but with the wrong designation number. Amateur's work.
Enthusiastic and nationalistic amateur (fanboi), yes. But for our purposes, amateurish and not reliable enough.
 

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We are duplicating info already on the site, at http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,18955.msg194258.html#msg232617
Maybe a moderator could consolidate this ?

Done, those Horten projects were merged with the thread mentioned above. Thanks for the clue !
 

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Thanks to you, Jens, for the endless patient shepherding of our disorganized posts :)
 

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FMA IA.37 under construction;

http://www.avia-it.com/act/biblioteca/periodici/PDF%20Riviste/Ala%20d'Italia/L'ALA%20D'ITALIA%201955%2001-3.pdf
 

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FMA proposed a naval variant of the IA.63 Pampa during the late 1980s/early 1990 capable of landing and take-offs aboard the 25 de Mayo. The Argentine Navy had a requirement for a 12 aircraft. It was proposed to use a higher thrust AlliedSignal TFE731 turbofan but it was finally decided to use the standard 3,500lbf TFE731-2N. No designation was known and the project was dropped.

Source: Brassey's World Aircraft & Systems Directory, 1996-97.
 

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Nice drawing dear Blockhaj.
 

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I did it a while ago but im already wanting to change some things after futher research. It would have had a huge bomb bay for 2000 kg of bombs and the gunner would probably have been a 11.35 mm madsen heavy mg instead of a small calibre one. It might even have had 6 cannons like the Nancu.
 

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Re: Argentinian Unbuilt Projects - IA-27a Pulqui II

In the International Air Power Review Vol. 25 there is an article on Argentinian jet projects. Amongst others it briefly mentions what was designated IAe-27a Pulqui II and what was an intermediate phase of development between IAe-27 Pulqui I by Dewoitine and IAe-33 Pulqui II by Tank. Interestingly IAe-27a was designed by Argentinian (or Italian) engineers who had previously worked with Dewoitine on IAe-27.

Here you have cutouts from the IAPR article containing a photo of IAe-27a's modell as well as what the article says on the project and a table with specifications of all members of the Pulqui family, incl. the IAe-27a.

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If that is a Pulqui II, what are these

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211.0;attach=576918
 

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kitnut617 said:
If that is a Pulqui II, what are these

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=211.0;attach=576918
What the IAPR article says may be understood that original Pulqui II was IAe-27a. After Kurt Tank took over the design the Pulqui II designation was retained but the numerical one was changed from '27a' to '33'.

So apparently there were two Pulqui IIs: IAe-27a and IAe-33.

Piotr
 

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Very interesting. Thanks, Petrus.
 

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Amazing find my dear Petrus.
 

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From Jane's All the World's Aircraft 1984-1985,

here is the FMA ATL,it was twin engined high-wing multi-purpose light transport
aircraft project,powered by two 1250 hp turboprops.
From L+K 17/1983.
 

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