It's insanity that LM are even being considered...have to keep Stevenage open...
I would also worry that LM are planning to build them in the North-East. Which minister really thought that it'd be a good idea to give Hull residents access to space systems? :)
 
Welcome news Cambridge Aerospace gets an order...Healey has clearly got confused though....the order will be for Skyhammer, the tube launched turbojet powered drone interceptor NOT Starhammer, which appears to be a UK Tamir style interceptor...reportedly Cambridge Aerospace have already developed the Nightstar rocket motor

Some points....
- Finally some sovereign competition for MBDA and Thales to keep them honest...
- Can someone seriously not make the likes of Skyhammer re-usable with a kinetic payload of some type?
- We surely need a 'Sting' or 'P1-SUN' style interceptor for prop based threats, although a prop based drone interceptor is in production for the UK (for supply to Ukraine) already...


View: https://x.com/haynesdeborah/status/2042515115715482010


View: https://x.com/TBrit90/status/2042520045947892038
 
They were supposed to have active radar seekers but the accompanying image shows it with a camera setup in the nose so maybe they've swapped them?
Possibly they have seeker options?
EO is cheaper for mass production?
 
- Finally some sovereign competition for MBDA and Thales to keep them honest...
- Can someone seriously not make the likes of Skyhammer re-usable with a kinetic payload of some type?
- We surely need a 'Sting' or 'P1-SUN' style interceptor for prop based threats, although a prop based drone interceptor is in production for the UK (for supply to Ukraine) already...
Yep, if Starhammer improves too much MBDA are going to have to get a point of difference to keep CAMM relevant. This might light a fire under CAMM-MR perhaps.
I don't know with the folding wings. Perhaps they could fit some EFPs into the fuselage to be fired from alongside, but that sounds difficult. The warhead in Skyhammer is only very small because it relies on sympathetic detonation.
Isn't that just Octopus? We just need to buy it ourselves.
Possibly they have seeker options?
EO is cheaper for mass production?
Perhaps, but they were spreading the word at DSEI about how cheap their seeker was, that they were on the right side of the cost equation for Shaheds even using a radar seeker. Every little helps but the all-weather capability would have been nice and they still need it for Starhammer.
 
True, but passive seekers be safer as the war in Ukraine proves.
 
But not all weather...
Can Shaheds even fly in heavy weather? I assume if the seekers are IIR they work at night, but perhaps not at the super cheap end. If they can build both Sky and Star at a sufficient rate the cost of the radar seeker will come down, and in the scenarios they expect to use it there won't be much friendly stuff to distinguish between.
[EDIT]: Apart from airfield defence? Or can seekers tell the rough size of the target, so they could put a cap on the wingspan maybe.
 
Can Shaheds even fly in heavy weather? I assume if the seekers are IIR they work at night, but perhaps not at the super cheap end. If they can build both Sky and Star at a sufficient rate the cost of the radar seeker will come down, and in the scenarios they expect to use it there won't be much friendly stuff to distinguish between.
[EDIT]: Apart from airfield defence? Or can seekers tell the rough size of the target, so they could put a cap on the wingspan maybe.

Yes Shahed can, they're quite big. But Interceptors often can't. Those interceptors also cannot intercept in cloud.

But its been confirmed...Skyhammer has X band radar seeker and optics...
 
Yes Shahed can, they're quite big. But Interceptors often can't. Those interceptors also cannot intercept in cloud.

But its been confirmed...Skyhammer has X band radar seeker and optics...
Not to be that guy, but do you have a source for that? You sound like it's a dual seeker head, but the radar doesn't really fit unless it's in the chin bulge?
 
Not to be that guy, but do you have a source for that? You sound like it's a dual seeker head, but the radar doesn't really fit unless it's in the chin bulge?
You know most cars have a small X-band radar for the various self-driving systems, right? Either PESAs or AESAs. And they're cheap enough to install on motorcycles for the adaptive cruise control.
 
Not to be that guy, but do you have a source for that? You sound like it's a dual seeker head, but the radar doesn't really fit unless it's in the chin bulge?

Confirmed by another Defence Correspondent as well. Optics seen on Skyhammers nose, plus look at their marketing.

View: https://x.com/RAeSTimR/status/1965384860899684523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1965384860899684523%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
 
Confirmed by another Defence Correspondent as well. Optics seen on Skyhammers nose, plus look at their marketing.
My problem is that we have two sets of marketing, one from DSEI and one from the announcement today.
At DSEI it was made very clear that Skyhammer had a radar seeker, and it appeared with the smoothly rounded, downwards-angled black nose devoid of camera openings:
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Now in the announcement today there is no mention of the radar seeker at all and it has appeared with this more lumpy, upturned nose with two very clear camera/IIR lenses and a mysterious chin bulge with a flat panel facing forwards and down:
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There are also other changes like the wings having two hinges rather than a single central pivot, and the belly air intake being hidden somehow. But my guess is that as @Scott Kenny says there is a small X-band AESA (the radar described before) behind that flat panel and Skyhammer is now using a dual seeker to combine target rejection and all-weather capability.
 

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