Fouga Magister, Pre-projects, Prototypes and Derivatives

[lol90oo]

From FliegerRevue 2/82 (line drawing) and an artist's impression
from Christian Castello "Planeurs et Avions".

on the second picture it was an art of the fouga 209 not the 195 according to french secretprojects 2 book

 

[yahya]

Does anyone know the avionics setup like com, nav and iff of the IAI Tzukit, which was an advanced version of Fouga Magister?

 

[dan_inbox]

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[yahya]

It's a past history. No sign of Tzukits on the Raptor Aviation website. Were they eventually sold or scrapped?

 

[bercr]

From SAFRAN Media Library Patrimoine

Fouga 90 pictures

 

[Motocar]

Cutaway Fouga 90 author original Aviagraphica and modified by Motocar

 

[bercr]

Fouga 90 footage:

Présentation de l'avion-école Fouga 90

Présentation de l'avion d'entrainement Fouga 90 à l'occasion du Salon du Bourget. Son pilote, Robert BRIOT, témoigne sur le pilotage de ce modèle, mis au p...

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[Dynoman]

Pre-Magister products Fouga CM 88 Gemini and CM8-R13 Cyclone (Sylphe)

 

[Stargazer]

Pre-Magister products Fouga CM 88 Gemini and CM8-R13 Cyclone (Sylphe)

Thanks for the photos. The Cyclone had to be renamed the Sylphe after Curtiss-Wright requested a change to avoid confusion with their own Cyclone engines.

 

[Kiltonge]

Thanks for the photos. The Cyclone had to be renamed the Sylphe after Curtiss-Wright requested a change to avoid confusion with their own Cyclone engines.

Seemed odd that C-W would even be aware of the type, but it transpires that in early 1950 the first airframe, F-WFOI, had embarked on a tour of the USA.

More details and photos on pages 17-19 of attached PDF.

 

[PhR]

Makalu is not the turbojet, its the aircraft itself. MA-kalu = MA-gister (I suppose)

This is a funny interpretation, but I don't think it's the right one.

Mount Makalu, the fifth highest peak in the world, culminating at 8,485 m, was first climbed in 1955. Among the victorious members of this expedition was André Vialatte, who headed the engine section of the DTI (French State Aeronautical Technical Services). This expedition earned him the nickname "Makalu" in flight testing circles.When Fouga equipped his aircraft with the largest engines available, the Gabizo, to climb to high altitudes, they named this test aircraft Makalu, a nod to Vialatte.

Many years ago, I had the opportunity to meet André Vialatte personally and I spoke about him in my book on Leduc and the one on the Griffon. He was a very pleasant person and passionate about both aviation and mountaineering. He was highly respected in the aviation industry and in the flight testing circle.

 

[Archibald]

No offense, the post date back from 2008 and I have no clue in the entire known Universe why I wrote that - nor the meaning of it.

 

[PhR]

No offense, the post date back from 2008 and I have no clue why I wrote that, nor the meaning of it.

I don't want to offense anybody. I just took the opportunity to expose an anecdote somewhat forgotten since that time.

 

[dan_inbox]

Fouga equipped his aircraft with the largest engines available, the Gabizo, to climb to high altitudes

Thanks for sharing this rare variant, Philippe.
Do you happen to know what was its purpose? recce, record, or ?

 

[Jemiba]

In "Magister Dixit-L'Histoire du Fouga et de Ses derives" by Jean-Loui Gaynecoetche and Claude Piet it's mentioned just as a testbed for testing the Gabizo at great heights, though putting this powerful engine into such a small fuselage seeme not to have been the best decision. Able of reaching around a height of around 15,000 meters , the canopy was endangered of cracking, so that it was replaced by one, made/beefed up with sheet metal.
Principally the same is said in "Planeurs et Avions" by Christian Castello.

 

[hesham]

From JAWA 1955/56,

about CM.160.

 

[Petrusja]

Hi all.

Here is a Magister at the 1953 Paris Air Show with larger intakes on the wing, but nothing like the Makalu. Does anyone know what this is about and which airframe this is?
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/20003908

This is No 03 at the same event, but it looks standard.
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/20003906

Cheers, Peter

 

[iverson]

Hi all.

Here is a Magister at the 1953 Paris Air Show with larger intakes on the wing, but nothing like the Makalu. Does anyone know what this is about and which airframe this is?
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/20003908

This is No 03 at the same event, but it looks standard.
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/20003906

Cheers, Peter

CM.173 Super-Magister?

 

[Petrusja]

I don't think so, the CM.173 only flew in 1964, and did not have that intakes.

 

[hesham]

I don't think so, the CM.173 only flew in 1964, and did not have that intakes.

From a book about Magister,it was CM.170.

 

[Petrusja]

From a book about Magister,it was CM.170.

Thank you dear Hesham. Does it say in the text which prototype/airframe/construction number/test registration?
I see that the caption says 'même appareil' (same aircraft), so there should be a bit more information.

 

[hesham]

Thank you dear Hesham. Does it say in the text which prototype/airframe/construction number/test registration?
I see that the caption says 'même appareil' (same aircraft), so there should be a bit more information.

It's Prototype 03,but I can't send any more Info from the book.

 

[PhR]

An illustration of the CM.195 from an unknown magazine:

 

[hesham]

Hi,

Les Ailes : journal hebdomadaire de la locomotion aérienne / directeur, rédacteur en chef, Georges Houard | 1956-04-21 | Gallica

Les Ailes : journal hebdomadaire de la locomotion aérienne / directeur, rédacteur en chef, Georges Houard | 1956-04-21 | Gallica

It's from here.

 

[dan_inbox]

An illustration of the CM.195 from an unknown magazine:

And a model: