Convair B-58 Projects

[blackkite]

Hi!
https://www.b-58.com/history_offensive.php
https://superibosk.live/product_details/42322888.html

 

[TomcatViP]

As a complement (from the flight manual) :

 

[blackkite]

Hi!

https://imgur.com/J9oKD9s

View: https://imgur.com/J9oKD9s

 

[Orionblamblam]

This seems dubious. That section of Archive.org has a number of books scanned in that seem unlikely subjects to be copyright-free, including several by our own Dan Sharp.

https://archive.org/details/folkscanomy_military

 

[blackkite]

Thanks I delete my post.

 

[Mugs914]

Hi!

https://imgur.com/J9oKD9s

View: https://imgur.com/J9oKD9s

All that and they still missed the Douglas A-4 series...

 

[hesham]

I think that,I have one or two more projects,never mentioned in this thread
or another topic,but when I will go back home,I will talk about them.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/convair-b-58-hustler-design-evolution.1489/

 

[Yellow Palace]

Hi!
https://www.b-58.com/history_offensive.php

Perhaps inevitably, Scott has a better copy of the second image (at least):
https://up-ship.com/blog/?p=24726
The 1957 Convair document Characteristics of Tactical, Strategic and Research Missiles gives three warheads for the 'B-58 Pod': one of 2,800 lb, one of 7,000 lb, and one of 20,000 lb.

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/AD0388603
Those correspond fairly naturally to the second-generation thermonuclear W27, W39, and W36 warheads respectively. Which I identified back in 2014, but we can do better.

However, we know that the MB-1 (and presumably the corresponding MA-1) pods carried the W39. Scaling pixels implies that the other two carried proportionately larger warheads:

• MA-2 & MB-2 - Approximately 38" x 120" - perhaps corresponding to the W46, which is known to have been planned for the B-58.
• MA-3 & MB-3 - Approximately 49" x 140" - perhaps corresponding to the W41.

My guess is that as development progressed, it was seen as inefficient to use the B-58 to deliver a single Class D weapon, and the W27 warhead was dropped. The MB-1 with a W39 was the initial service model, and it was expected to replace this with the -2 and -3 pods carrying higher-yield W46 and W41 warheads.

With limited service of the B-58, and the fuel leak issues, none of the other pods were developed. The BLU-2 Two-Component Pod did, however, use the W53, which evolved from the original W46.

 

[hesham]

From Aerograph 4,and,

https://www.combatreform.org/airborneaircraftcarriers.htm

 

[hesham]

They mentioned here,my dear Scott and his work,

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbGzuyPvBbo

 

[hesham]

They mentioned here,my dear Scott and his work,

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbGzuyPvBbo

With no offense at all,they were not clever enough,the Convair 58-9 had to
build,becuase many reasons,first it was depended on a successful design already
entered product and proved a good performance,second no need to make
studying for construction design,third that was a priority to surprise the world
by made at least two prototypes,and it was not cost much,fourth there was a
big possibility to issue a large versions,my speculation is; Model-58-10 with a
capacity of accommodation 80 to 90 passenger.

These may the companies contected Convair and USA got a precedence in
this field ?!.

PLEASE,no argue about that in this topic,it's my personal opinion.

 

[Archibald]

The title alone smells clickbait and bullshit.

In other news: I'd like to know more about the MA-1C pod canned early 1957. It was rocket powered with a LR-81 engine, which then found its way into the Lockheed Agena.

 

[RAP]

Report on missile launch configurarion for B58. Attached is the report and some of copies of the imagaes contained in it. Another report will follow.

 

[RAP]

Another study.

 

[hesham]

Another study.

I sent this report's title and all these stuff in it,here, reply # 73,

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/convair-b-58-hustler-design-evolution.1489/page-2

 

[Archibald]

Thanks @RAP for the two documents. I'm adding a few more of them so that all TOWN HALL documents are at the same place.
- Drats, I've just realized a few of them are identical, except for the name.

 

[hesham]

From this book.

 

[hesham]

From this report.

 

[Sferrin]

Hi!

Scales are all over the place on these and some definitely aren't deltas. (Vigilante for example.)

 

[Basil]

Scales are all over the place on these and some definitely aren't deltas. (Vigilante for example.)

... yes, scales are not identical.

 

[martinbayer]

... yes, scales are not identical.

Birds of a Feather, nevertheless...

 

[NMaude]

I wonder why the B-58 wasn't a tailed delta like the A-4 Skyhawk? Because if it had had a tailplane the B-58 could've had flaps on its' wings trailing edge meaning lower landing and takeoff speeds along with a lower angle-of-attack meaning better pilot visibility from the cockpit. This would've meant far fewer landing and takeoff crashes with IIRC 30% of B-58 lost in crashes before the bomber was retired.​

use the W53, which evolved from the original W46.

The W-53 was basically a W-46 with a new primary (Meaning they had externally identical radiation-cases).

 

[voodoo1]

Here's what's in my collection.