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AH-64 Apache Projects
« on: May 22, 2006, 12:28:06 am »
Naval Apache Project

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2006, 02:01:47 pm »
Agusta also proposed a "naval" A-129, with a radome replacing the electro-optical sight.  The weapon was - very predictably - the Marte anti-ship missile. 

The proposal was apparently unsolicited.

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2006, 10:39:17 pm »
Any information as to whether a "Sea Apache" with a NOTAR system was considered?

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2006, 04:45:27 pm »
A 1983 proposal of Oerlikon for a air version a of the ADATS drawn installed in an Apache

(source: Revista internacional de defensa 3/1983)

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2006, 12:15:37 pm »
The ocean-going Apaches

Hughes and McDonnell Douglas made several attempts to adapt the AH-64A for a dedicated naval role. The first of these 'marinised' versions came in 1984. An Apache equipped with Harpoon or Penguin anti-ship missiles, Sidewinders for selfdefence, TOW missiles and a mast-mounted radar was proposed for both USMC and USN use. In USMC service the proposed 'sea Apache' could operate in support of amphibious operations from LHAs or LHDs to protect the assault force at sea and on the beach-head. USN aircraft could be based on frigates to provide distant protection for battle groups from surface threats. The 'Sea Apache' would have had a combat radius of 142 miles(228 km) and a mission endurance of 2.8 hours.

These ideas matured into a more developed 'Naval Apache' concept which was unveiled in 1987. This aircraft was radically modified through the addition of a completely redefined forward fuselage (plus IFR probe) with the avionics shifted to a ventral housing, increasing the fuel load. TADS/PNVS sensors and cannon were replaced by a Hughes AN/APG-65 radar. Redesigned stub wing/undercarriage sponsons could mount Sidewinder missiles and the 'Naval Apache' retained its Harpoon anti-ship missile capability. Hopes for over 100 sales proved to be premature.

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2007, 03:45:17 am »
Enjoy! If someone is writing an article about unconventional aircraft for the magazine and want a commercial 3 view, just contact me  ;)

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2007, 12:45:09 pm »
Second proposal.

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2007, 02:20:32 pm »
Thanks for sharing Matej your beautiful drawings. I really love it! ::)

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2007, 07:24:07 pm »
Indeed superb artwork!!

You might be interested to know that the USN may explore 'sharing' space on aircraft carriers and other ships for Army attack aircraft to provide support to the fleet in littoral operations.  While the USN has outfitted some of its H-60 with the ability to carry AGM-114, the package of missile/rocket/gun with the sensor suite of the Longbow, makes it a very good small boat hunter.  USFK and the USN have already tested this concept and developed tactics for the Apache to support the fleet.

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2007, 10:56:42 am »
Matej,

These are superb - I hope you don't mind but I've taken the liberty of posting them over at http://www.whatifmodelers.com/ - you should come join us and post some more profiles (we have a area dedicated just for this sort of thing).

BTW, here is a profile of the third and final (?) SH-64 proposal:



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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2007, 11:43:45 am »
Thanks guys. Here is the final third proposal.

GTX: Its OK, low-res versions are for you all for enjoying.

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2007, 01:19:01 pm »
Very nice illustrations, Matej- I had built the second proposal using Dragon's 1/144 Apache kit several years ago, it's probably in storage somewhere now as I've since run out of space with my other rampant aviation hobbies.

I added ALQ-142 ESM antennas used on the Seahawk- one on each side of the nose just aft of the radome and a dual unit on the extreme end of the fuselage under the tail.

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2007, 12:49:36 am »
Nice drawings Matej :)

A few months ago I made a start on a model of the third prototype Sea Apache to use in a game, but never bothered finishing it.





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Another project involving the Apache was the SpeedApache, a conceptual demonstration of the Piasecki Vector Thrust Ducted Propeller (VTDP).



http://www.geocities.com/tacticalstudiesgroup/piaseckivtdp.htm

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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2007, 02:13:49 pm »
Anyone found a picture of the model of the Apache VTDP project, or the CGI model?

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Re: AH-64 Apache Projects
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2007, 09:58:36 am »
A bit strange gear for the Apache.

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