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Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« on: October 03, 2006, 06:47:37 am »
Hi,

a little known aircraft to MiG :
MiG-115: was a single-turboprop staggered and unbraced biplane
             utility aircraft.
MiG-125: light business jet powered by two Williams-Rolls FJ-44
             turbofans engines.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2007, 08:28:40 am »
Hi,

we know MiG-18 and MiG-24 ,a transport aircraft projects (not to be confuse with
MiG-24 fighter which developed from MiG-23),anther strange design to me was
Tupolev Tu-100 a supersonic parasite bomber project,I cann't imagine that it
can carry fighters and reach to a supersonic speed !.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2007, 08:24:03 am »
By the way,

MiG-18 was 50 passenger airliner project,see also Jane's all the world's aircraft 1993-1994.
MiG-24 was transport aircraft project,see also Jane's all the world's aircraft 1991-1992.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2007, 10:01:58 am »
Hi,

MiG-201 is twin boom light utility transport aircraft powered
by two turboprop engine and Myasishchev M-70 is regional jet
airliner projects.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2007, 06:03:46 pm »
The students at the Russian Aviation Institute or MAI do come up with many interesting projects/designs. I recall a link to an alternative design for an interceptor with the mission profile of the MIG-31 posted on the Key Publishing forum last year. Is there any website where the student projects are posted?

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2007, 07:13:13 am »
I just brought a book yesterday, one of those general books 'Encyclopedia of Modern Military Aircraft' edited by Paul Eden. It was cheap but filled a few gaps in my bookshelf. Flicking through to the MiG-29 page there was a photo of an interesting variant.

The photo (I haven't got a scanner but someone else may have the photo in another book) shows a wind tunnel mockup of the MiG-29KU. Designed as a carrier landing trainer the pupil, or instructor, sat in the radarless nose just ahead and below the normal cockpit. It harks back to the MiG-25 trainer in nose layout.

Does anyone have any more information?

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2007, 07:20:39 am »
I couldn't find info on that proposal, but it seems there is a production variant called the MIG 29KUB, which as full combat capabilities.

source: global security

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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/mig-29k.htm

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2007, 01:14:12 pm »
The photo (I haven't got a scanner but someone else may have the photo in another book) shows a wind tunnel mockup of the MiG-29KU. Designed as a carrier landing trainer the pupil, or instructor, sat in the radarless nose just ahead and below the normal cockpit. It harks back to the MiG-25 trainer in nose layout.

This?

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2007, 05:09:20 am »
Matej, great picture and it is along the right lines.

The picture I have looks like an actual MiG-29 nose section including the cockpit and LERX, or at least a life-size model, with the cockpit seciton grafted on the nose where the randome should be. It seems like a model as it is poorly finshed (streaks and scuffs all over it) and looks wooden. I've seen some fakes on the web but this is black & white and looks like the real thing. Its resting on its side in an office/lab.

Just wish I had a scanner to share this with you all.  :'(

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2007, 10:09:55 am »
Hi,

The MiG 1.44 and bizjet project based on L-29.

No, Hesham, not for both.
1. MAI student graduate fighter project
2. MAI Semurg multipurpose aircraft project http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=19066.0
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2007, 12:17:53 pm »
That MIG 1,44 is awesome :o

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2007, 03:20:14 pm »
Thats not the MiG 1.44. It looks like a heavily modified MiG-29, with a more extensively blended body and thrust vectoring.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2007, 10:07:19 am »
Yes dear overscan,

But do you have a drawing to MiG 1.44 ? please.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2007, 10:13:23 am »
1.44 is the MFI, theres hundreds of drawings, photos on the net.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 05:23:21 am »
Hi,

the MiG 901 was a project for unmanned interceptor reusable
aircraft of 1990,I find no more info about it.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2010, 05:38:50 am »
And from where is the original info?

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2010, 07:02:19 am »
"9-01" was first prototype of 9-12, MiG-29A Fulcrum A
never heard of 'unmanned reusable interceptor" 901 neither 9.01
you can seriously imagine such a UCAV technology level in early 90s?
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2010, 03:44:33 pm »
My dears Matej and Flateric,

why we always refuse the new,I know very well the aircraft you
have spoken about it,it is MiG 9-01,and i speak about MiG 901,and
for the source;it is Russian site;


http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/71/

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=ar&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/71/

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2010, 04:19:54 pm »
why we always refuse the new

I will modify your question a bit: Why we are so prospective when we find some "fantastic" new information? Because there is a loooot of fakes, misinterpretations and personal imagination, so being a skeptic and rational/evidence based is a good thing to do.

So, now when we have a source... how thrustworthy it is? What I find interesting/suspicious are also other listed projects such as:

izdeliye 41 -  The project is a light tactical fighter, 1981 г 1981 . . Нормальной аэродинамической схемы, боковые ВЗ, ТРДДФ тягой 10 т (на 2-м этапе), БРЛС «Комар» Normal aerodynamic configuration, the lateral VZ, turbofan thrust of 10 tons (at the 2 nd stage), radar is "Mosquito"

izdeliye 4.12 - The project is a light tactical fighter 5 th generation (Project-21 - "Fighter of the 21 st Century) 1998 г 1998 . . С РЛС с АФАР «Жук-МАЭ», ТРДДФ тягой 11,5-12 т With radar AFAR "Zhuk-MAE", turbofans Thrust 11,5-12 m

izdeliye 1.27 - Draft medium tactical fighter 5 th generation, 1998 г 1998 .

Regarding the 901, if the 1990 is really the year, it can be something similar to Tupolev Tu-300. It means at best semi-autonomous RPV, able to deliver weapons in a medium distances. I am going to write to the author.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2010, 11:36:02 pm »
Source for all (except possibly the 901) appears to be Paralay. They are, to the best of my knowledge, correct.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2010, 02:17:53 am »
you can seriously imagine such a UCAV technology level in early 90s?

Well, I'm myself suspicious of an "901" too, however lets not forget that Hawker Siddeley designed an unmanned interceptor in the early 1970s (see British Secret Projects vol.3 page 75), and continued work in the late 1980s as UFA (Unmanned Fighter Aircraft) (Projects P.1224 and P.1243).
Hmm, time for a new thread perhaps?

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2010, 04:05:23 am »
well, I became interested

*original* and only mention of Article 901 (or 9.01?) in media is 2005 article on UAVs in Kommersant Business Guide, a supplement to #1 business newspaper here, Kommersant. Seems that designation leaked from interview with chief of MiG Engineering Center, Barkovsky.

"were intended to counter LO targets with Gs out of limits of human pilot"

http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=600136
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2010, 12:18:01 pm »
No answer so far. So if someone - preferably Russian native speaker - wants to try...

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2010, 03:06:57 pm »
The same here regarding other sources.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2013, 04:11:57 pm »
New topic split from older thread. Please use this for post-war projects that are insufficiently documented for now to have their own topic.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2013, 06:58:23 am »
A new one for me, the MiG-Ta-4 amphibian:

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2013, 07:51:23 am »
A new one for me, the MiG-Ta-4 amphibian:


Hi Stargazer,


the TA-4 is a small amphibian projected in partnership with Transal AKS to carry
3 passengers and baggage or 300 kg from any surface,using air-cushion landing
gear,powered by one 300 hp Teledyne Continental IO-550 engine,span 12,4m,
and length 9,54m.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2013, 08:22:57 am »
the TA-4 is a small amphibian projected in partnership with Transal AKS

I have the company as AKS-Invest. Who's right, who's wrong?

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2013, 08:37:47 am »
Hi Stargazer,


may be both we are right,that is because,in the book; Osprey Encyclopedia
of Russian Aircraft,which was appeared in 1990s,may be,it was its name,and
change to AKS-Invest later.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2013, 06:14:54 am »
It was Transal-AKS when I was working there. I presume AKS-Invest was its funding arm, as it was the trend in those days to create multiple corporate entities for new projects.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2013, 06:27:35 am »
I thought I had the Ta-4 brochure in my files but to no avail. Instead, I found a similar project MiG was working on (or rather piggy backing in search for funding) at the same time in partnership with Aero-Ric, the Dingo.
Here is the brochure.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2013, 06:39:08 am »
Brilliant, Luc! Didn't know MiG had any involvement in the Dingo. At what level, exactly?

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« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2013, 06:51:33 am »
Unfortunately I do not remember, but unlike the Ta-4 the Dingo was not visible on some general MiG brochures I still have here, so I suppose it was not at a high level.
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« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2013, 07:12:31 am »
Hi all
From an old "Aviation magazine"

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« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2013, 07:37:45 am »
A little drawing from "AIR iNTERNATIONAL"
 volume 51 n°2
The Mig 115 project
Biplane, the hight wing is behind the low one
1 turbo TVB 20 M 1350 hp
span hight wing : 15.00 m
        low wing   : 12.20 m
lenght               : 14.66 m
speed maxi        : 410 km/h

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2013, 08:31:44 am »
Hi,

MiG-201 is twin boom light utility transport aircraft powered
by two turboprop engine and Myasishchev M-70 is regional jet
airliner projects.


My dear Toura,


may be the MiG-201 in your file is an early imagine for it,we know the MiG-201 was
developed from MiG-110.

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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2013, 09:28:56 am »
YES my dear HESHAM !
but I don't know more.....sorry !
"my" 201 had 2 versions
one with piston engine
one with turboprop
but sure, another plane ??

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2013, 10:24:13 am »
Dingo never was MIG project.
Aerorik - small DB in Nizhniy Novgorod lead by Victor Petrovich Morozov.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2013, 11:20:10 am »
You are correct it never was a MiG project but someone, MiG or Aerorik, tried (on the basis of the Ta-4 experience which is similar) because it is where I got the brochure among other partnership projects, when I was involved with one of those.
Maybe the connection is too tenuous to justify its presence in this thread.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2013, 07:57:37 am »
Hi,


also we spoke about unknown MiG projects,with no more info about them;


Ye-6T-4,Ye-6/9,Ye-7-3,Ye-7-4,Aircraft 723,Aircraft 23-57,Aircraft 32-31 and Ye-158FR.


http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,11496.msg109431.html#msg109431

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« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2013, 08:59:46 am »
A little drawing from "AIR iNTERNATIONAL"
 volume 51 n°2
The Mig 115 project
Biplane, the hight wing is behind the low one
1 turbo TVB 20 M 1350 hp
span hight wing : 15.00 m
        low wing   : 12.20 m
lenght               : 14.66 m
speed maxi        : 410 km/h

Pretty neat - a small An-2 successor? It'd be interesting to see range and runway lengths for such a project.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2013, 09:57:23 am »
HI Avimimus
 
yes, an AN 2 successor project
But nothing more........sorry.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2013, 01:26:08 pm »
it did look more like mix of Porter Pilatus and Rutan Quickie. One of designers was current T-50 Chief Designer Davidenko.
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« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2013, 11:31:52 am »
MiG-115
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2013, 01:33:24 pm »
A medium bomber design supposedly by MIG.


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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2013, 03:25:47 pm »
Thanks guys!

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« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2013, 03:38:23 pm »
Great pictures my dear Flateric,


and in that site; http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/69/
there is also a project for tactical fighter in two configurations,one had delta wing and the
other had a variable geometry wing,and the design was created in 1964 ?.

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« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2013, 03:57:17 pm »
A medium bomber design supposedly by MIG.

I could swear that's some  CGI i saw somewhere else on the net,  i cannot remember now under what context ( LRS maybe?) but that is definitely not MiG or even russian . Stars are photoshoped.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2013, 05:23:24 pm »
Great pictures my dear Flateric,


and in that site; http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/69/
there is also a project for tactical fighter in two configurations,one had delta wing and the
other had a variable geometry wing,and the design was created in 1964 ?.


Um, MiG-23?
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2013, 02:36:07 am »
I suspect the bomber was a spoof.

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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2013, 03:55:22 am »
Great pictures my dear Flateric,


and in that site; http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/69/
there is also a project for tactical fighter in two configurations,one had delta wing and the
other had a variable geometry wing,and the design was created in 1964 ?.


Um, MiG-23?


You are right my dear Paul,


because they put it in the same section of MiG-23,but why they seperate it from
Model 23.01 as in the table,in the book (MiG Fifty Years of Secret Aircraft Design)
mention that,there is a number of patents led to develop the Model 23.01.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2013, 06:53:59 am »
In the mid - late '90s, the MiG stealth bomber was shown in Flight International. It was attributed to MiG in that caption. It's posted elsewhere in SP, but IIRC, was just a notional MiG design.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2013, 02:25:21 pm »
In the mid - late '90s, the MiG stealth bomber was shown in Flight International. It was attributed to MiG in that caption.


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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2013, 03:07:31 pm »
In the mid - late '90s, the MiG stealth bomber was shown in Flight International. It was attributed to MiG in that caption. It's posted elsewhere in SP, but IIRC, was just a notional MiG design.

Oh i see. Something like the MiG-2000. Thanks for the clarification. :)

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2013, 03:58:52 pm »
Hi,


we can say that project,was the early UCAV.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2013, 04:05:03 pm »
Hi,


anther mystery,the Model 23.31,we know it allocated to MiG-23-98 and MiG-23UB-99,but
here is anther three unknown projects,also get the designation 23.31,they are;


MiG-23K shipboard fighter project of 1977,based on MiG-23ML,with single R-100 engine


MiG-23K also a shipboard fighter project,with increased wing span and retractable refueling
              boom,and powered by two RD-33 engine
MiG-23I  with upgrade radar and new missile

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2013, 05:22:15 pm »
Hi,

also from that great site,the MiG 518-55 was an enlarged
version of the MiG-29,or it is misprint and he means MiG-25,
who can explain that ?.



MiG-31 518-55



http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,268.msg1569.html#msg1569


Early MiG-29





http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1398.msg54762.html#msg54762
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #60 on: January 25, 2013, 05:32:59 pm »
Hi,


anther mystery,the Model 23.31,we know it allocated to MiG-23-98 and MiG-23UB-99,but
here is anther three unknown projects,also get the designation 23.31,they are;


MiG-23K shipboard fighter project of 1977,based on MiG-23ML,with single R-100 engine


MiG-23K also a shipboard fighter project,with increased wing span and retractable refueling
              boom,and powered by two RD-33 engine
MiG-23I  with upgrade radar and new missile


Well known projects - from Andrei Fomin's Su-33 book:

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2013, 04:05:39 am »
Excellent my dear Paul,


I have never seen like those fighters before,and can I ask you about the second
drawing (MiG-23K),was it a twin engined ?.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #62 on: May 11, 2013, 05:26:17 pm »
I have a Question regarding the tail section of the Mig-23 A and K.. Why did they bring back the design of MF variants? i thought such design were abounded after the MF variants(post MF variants) 

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #63 on: May 11, 2013, 05:51:18 pm »
< 723>

Sorry was this a Shturmovik project?
 
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #64 on: May 11, 2013, 06:39:00 pm »
I have a Question regarding the tail section of the Mig-23 A and K.. Why did they bring back the design of MF variants? i thought such design were abounded after the MF variants(post MF variants) 

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-K : has a whole new tail.
-A : don't know why its got a MiG-23M style tail. Probably due to balance reasons.  23ML cut avionics weight in the nose, and balanced with weight savings in rear including the cut-down fin.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #65 on: May 12, 2013, 09:06:30 am »
But you also have to note the K also has a taller vertical tail than the other variants, which was probably done due to the greater side surface area of the nose with the raised cockpit.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #66 on: June 22, 2013, 04:24:33 am »
In the book; Mikoyan MiG-21 by Bill Gunstone;


I found a chapter on MiG Ye-9 aircraft,but the book was from 1986,and I want
to check if that designation is right or not ?.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #67 on: April 17, 2014, 05:24:00 am »
In the book; Mikoyan MiG-21 by Bill Gunstone;


I found a chapter on MiG Ye-9 aircraft,but the book was from 1986,and I want
to check if that designation is right or not ?.


Also from Flieger Revue 5/1982,here is a small info about Ye-9 designation.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #68 on: July 05, 2014, 04:38:14 pm »
Hi,


here is the MiG LMFS imagination from 2012;


http://exploredia.com/top-10-fighter-jets-in-the-world/6/

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #69 on: July 05, 2014, 04:45:19 pm »
Darn not. This is old PAK FA render by Alexander Dultsev
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #70 on: July 05, 2014, 05:44:49 pm »
Thank you my dear Flateric.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2014, 05:13:16 am »
By the way,

MiG-18 was 50 passenger airliner project,see also Jane's all the world's aircraft 1993-1994.
MiG-24 was transport aircraft project,see also Jane's all the world's aircraft 1991-1992.


Hi,


here is the MiG-18-50 Project.


Jane's All the World's Aircraft 1991-1992

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #72 on: November 20, 2014, 06:09:49 am »
Marcel Dassault, come out of this airframe at once!

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #73 on: January 29, 2015, 02:25:29 pm »
From Flying Review 6/1957,


they spoke about mixed powered interceptor could attain 2.5 Mach,did they mean the
MiG Ye-50 or anther project ?.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #74 on: October 30, 2015, 06:00:39 am »
Hi,

here is a supersonic business jet aircraft project by MiG,called aircraft 210.

http://testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/210/mig210.htm

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2015, 07:41:28 am »
From Kryl'ya Rodine 2015-04/05;

here is the MiG Aircraft 4.12 and 5.12 Projects.

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« Reply #76 on: November 02, 2015, 04:56:30 am »
From Kryl'ya Rodine 2015-04/05;

here is the MiG Aircraft 4.12 and 5.12 Projects.

Also in my files,

MiG developed a duck or canard shape bomber project of 1990s ?.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #77 on: November 02, 2015, 05:48:29 am »
BS
MiG developed a duck or canard shape bomber project of 1990s ?.
BS
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« Reply #78 on: November 02, 2015, 07:24:33 am »
BS
MiG developed a duck or canard shape bomber project of 1990s ?.
BS

I will try to remember the name of my source my dear Flateric.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #79 on: November 17, 2015, 05:19:43 am »
Also from my files,until I remember the source,

MiG Aircraft-723 was a project for MiG-21bis with increased wingspan and 6 underwing
suspension units.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #80 on: November 19, 2015, 02:12:16 am »
Also from my files,until I remember the source,

MiG Aircraft-723 was a project for MiG-21bis with increased wingspan and 6 underwing
suspension units.
See  Reply #23

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« Reply #81 on: November 19, 2015, 03:17:14 am »
Thank you my dear Borovik.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #82 on: December 03, 2015, 08:02:30 am »
Also in my files;

the MiG-21M was re-allocated to a side air intakes VTOL aircraft project,with lift
engines ?.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #83 on: December 04, 2015, 08:00:18 am »
In my files,

The MiG I-7K was a project developed from I-7U,with different radar.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #84 on: December 23, 2015, 04:39:53 am »
Hi,

here is the MiG-23M STOL aircraft project Model.

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« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2016, 05:13:11 am »
I can't translate well,

is it a MiG Aircraft-721 ?.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #86 on: December 03, 2016, 02:15:02 am »
Yes, MiG LMFS or E-721, competitor to Sukhoi T-50.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #87 on: January 14, 2017, 04:59:04 am »
BS
MiG developed a duck or canard shape bomber project of 1990s ?.
BS

I will try to remember the name of my source my dear Flateric.

All I remember that, it was a quiet bird,maybe it means stealth bomber Project.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2017, 07:32:35 am »
Yes, MiG LMFS or E-721, competitor to Sukhoi T-50.

Isn't the LMFS supposed to be quite a bit smaller than the PAK-FA?

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #89 on: January 16, 2017, 11:38:13 am »
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« Reply #90 on: January 16, 2017, 01:18:24 pm »
Amazing drawings Paralay.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #91 on: February 15, 2017, 10:16:28 pm »
Hi! 1.42 early design?  Early design had BLC jet flap?

Source
http://www.paralay.com/mfi.html

And
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hitechweb.genezis.eu%2FfightersSF02.htm&sandbox=1
"1:42 MiG MFI / MiG-39 ...

Engineers also considering the use of jet aileron. In the first case, the function should take the compressed air from the high pressure compressor motor and distribute along the wing trailing edge. An alternative variant was hot while collecting exhaust gas outlet chamber of the afterburner. Such a solution would entail a significant increase buoyancy produced (for example, usable during takeoff), effective maneuverability."

 "As work progresses on the prototype slowly rozbiehala 1.44 and 1.42 in the production version of the standard design, but all work has stopped.  Everything in fact went to the inevitable end, which many people have long been predicted - the Soviet Union fell apart.  In terms of the MFI program at that time it was a considerable preparatory stage prototype and 1:44 also have been done two fuselage sections of the standard design 1:42 from the main landing gear legs jets after engine cover plus some parts of the wings."
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #92 on: February 15, 2017, 10:23:25 pm »
3 views surely not. They are even not Soviet designs
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #93 on: February 15, 2017, 11:54:09 pm »
Oh thanks flateric-san. :D I found this paper. What is this? ???

https://www.mycity-military.com/Avioni/T-50-novi-ruski-lovac.html
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #94 on: February 16, 2017, 03:32:52 am »
A hypothetical designs,was that right my dear Flateric ?.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #95 on: February 16, 2017, 04:22:02 am »
Hesham, I don't know what 'hypotetical design' means for you.
These are Air Force AFDL sponsored studies made by McDonnell Douglas at NASA Ames in 1969-1974 timeframe.
http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.1974-970

I hope this is the last time they pop-up in MiG MFI topic again (and we have own MiG MFI topic here, Blackie).
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #96 on: February 16, 2017, 04:46:27 am »
Thank you my dear Flateric,

I just want explanation,now I remember,and I think I have this report.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #98 on: June 01, 2017, 08:15:18 am »
In my files,

the MiG Ye.8 was projected to carry TsD-30TP radar and K-13 missiles,remained a Project and maybe
called Ye.8-3

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #99 on: September 03, 2017, 03:52:19 pm »
Also until remeber the source;

the MiG-15 had a version with remote-controlled,remained a Project only,maybe intended
for test ?.

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« Reply #100 on: September 05, 2017, 04:39:07 am »
Also until remeber the source;

the MiG-15 had a version with remote-controlled,remained a Project only,maybe intended
for test ?.

Sorry hesham, I don't know anything about your 'MiG-15 with remote-controlled weapons system; but I do know of the MiG-17SN

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« Reply #101 on: September 05, 2017, 05:32:39 am »
Thank you my dear Pioneer,but my memory is not good this days,

also in my files,until remember the source,The MiG-19 had a Project for ship board fighter,
no more details are known ?.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #102 on: September 06, 2017, 08:08:42 am »
Hi,

I don't know if that's Info was real or not,there was a developed version of MiG-21
with side intakes and lift engines as a VTOL Project ?.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #103 on: September 07, 2017, 07:26:50 am »
Hesham, maybe you are thinking of Ye-7 aka  изделие (izdeliye) 23-01.
Check out the site http://www.tailsthroughtime.com/2010/11/experimental-stol-variant-of-mig-23.html

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« Reply #104 on: September 07, 2017, 03:26:49 pm »
Hesham, maybe you are thinking of Ye-7 aka  изделие (izdeliye) 23-01.
Check out the site http://www.tailsthroughtime.com/2010/11/experimental-stol-variant-of-mig-23.html

No my dear Dan,

I know this aircraft very well,it's actually built by 1967,but what I meant; was a ground
attack Project from 1969/70 as I remember,and maybe its configuration was a mixed between
those designs ?.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #105 on: September 08, 2017, 04:13:30 am »
Also until remeber the source;

the MiG-15 had a version with remote-controlled,remained a Project only,maybe intended
for test ?.

Sorry hesham, I don't know anything about your 'MiG-15 with remote-controlled weapons system; but I do know of the MiG-17SN

The cutaway speculative MiG-17SN modified by Motocar

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« Reply #106 on: September 08, 2017, 05:02:27 am »
Nice work my dear Motocar.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #107 on: September 21, 2017, 02:30:28 am »
I-305
Which is the right drawing?

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« Reply #108 on: September 21, 2017, 05:28:47 am »
I-305
Which is the right drawing?

Of course the upper one.

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« Reply #109 on: October 27, 2017, 08:39:26 am »
I don't know if that's Info was real or not,there was a developed version of MiG-21
with side intakes and lift engines as a VTOL Project ?.

Maybe this one was I meant,to be honest,I don't know.

Истребитель МиГ-23. На защите неба Родины

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« Reply #110 on: October 28, 2017, 08:54:53 am »
I don't know if that's Info was real or not,there was a developed version of MiG-21
with side intakes and lift engines as a VTOL Project ?.

Maybe this one was I meant,to be honest,I don't know.

Истребитель МиГ-23. На защите неба Родины

As you see the main difference between it and MiG-23M.

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« Reply #111 on: November 01, 2017, 03:32:28 am »
Cutaway MiG-23PD STOL, author M. Badrocke and modified by Motocar

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« Reply #112 on: November 02, 2017, 08:15:25 pm »
Can't help but ponder, with its lift engines removed, and replaced by a rear cockpit and additional fuel, the MiG-23PD derivative might have made an interesting long-range interceptor.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #113 on: November 03, 2017, 02:10:27 am »
Can't help but ponder, with its lift engines removed, and replaced by a rear cockpit and additional fuel, the MiG-23PD derivative might have made an interesting long-range interceptor.

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That would make it - an Su-15, essentially.
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #114 on: November 03, 2017, 01:01:13 pm »

That would make it - an Su-15, essentially.

Su-15 is larger and twin-engined...
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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #115 on: November 04, 2017, 05:47:01 pm »
Can't help but ponder, with its lift engines removed, and replaced by a rear cockpit and additional fuel, the MiG-23PD derivative might have made an interesting long-range interceptor.

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Such idea was after it became clear that MiG-23PD an unsuccessful and deadlock branch of evolution MiG. But in OKB MiG have considered that such plane won't have any superiority. In fact before emergence of modification MiG-23MLD at MiG-23 according to characteristics of range, maneuverability and that the most ridiculous to runway characteristics was almost not superiority over the last modifications MiG-21. At least so about it it is written in the book about MiG-23.
It seems to me that from MiG-23PD without good engine and completion I covered on type as Chinese have made on J-7 the normal fighter wouldn't turn out. Are even more interesting as on me, theoretical options of crossing with a wing from the Analog144, but it is already obviously alternative story about the Soviet analog the Mirage III.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #116 on: November 05, 2017, 01:48:58 am »
I'm sorry but I have literaly no idea what you are saying.  If you are saying the aircraft is no better than a late build Mig 21 I can see the point, almost.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #117 on: November 05, 2017, 08:38:46 am »
Cutaway Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-23K project for Soviet Navy, author M. Badrocke and modified by Motocar

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #118 on: November 07, 2017, 06:38:23 am »
Cutaway MiG SM-12, author WEAL and modified by Motocar

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #119 on: November 07, 2017, 06:59:06 am »
Nice work my dear Motocar.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #120 on: November 09, 2017, 02:55:43 am »
Cutaway MiG I-360, modified by Motocar


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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #121 on: December 04, 2017, 05:10:34 am »
From; MiG Aircraft since 1939,Putnam.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #122 on: December 04, 2017, 05:53:57 am »
Interesting..I have been aware of the Ye-8 for ages, but had never noticed the version with wingtip AAM stations.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #123 on: February 15, 2019, 03:55:03 am »
Hi,

the MiG-19 Tigr (Tiger) was a shipboard fighter Project of 1953,powered by two
RD-9b engines.

http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/45/

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #124 on: March 15, 2019, 06:35:35 am »
what is this post-war model - experimental circular-wing MiG prototype ?

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #125 on: March 15, 2019, 06:38:38 am »
what is this post-war model - experimental circular-wing MiG prototype ?

What is it my dear Robertino,can you explain more ?.

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #126 on: March 15, 2019, 07:51:00 am »
what is this post-war model - experimental circular-wing MiG prototype ?

What is it my dear Robertino,can you explain more ?.

somewhere I read that the Russians (Soviet) made a circle mig, but I did not find this information, pictures and articles anywhere

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #127 on: March 15, 2019, 08:17:41 am »

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Re: Various Mikoyan-Gurevich (MiG) projects
« Reply #128 on: March 16, 2019, 02:34:31 am »
thx  ;D