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US Supersonic Transport (SST) Program 1960-1971

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From Aviation magazine 1963,

what was this NA VG aircraft Project,and sorry for my question,is that belong to here or not ?.
 

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Can someone identify these two and from which document they come from ? :
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Found it on a Facebok page with no hint of from where it came (I hate facebok), Certainly looks very Boeing to me tho.
 

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Mmmm.............Post 2707-300? Fuselage shape looks like -300. Engine airintake without shock cone. Radically area ruled fuselage.
Design speed : Mach1.2!! Number of passengers : 193.
 
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Engines are small compared with -300.
 

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Yes indeed, thks Blackkite San. Seems to be a post SST stuf. But still looks like Boeing.
Can't find from where it's coming.
 

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My understanding is that area ruling is most valuable in the transonic range, so the reduced M1.2 design speed would explain the voluptuous fuselage. Perhaps an aerodynamacist could confirm.
 

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Can someone identify these two and from which document they come from ? :
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Found it on a Facebok page with no hint of from where it came (I hate facebok), Certainly looks very Boeing to me tho.

Ok found it... Our distinguished Hexham posted it already here in 2008 :
It's indeed from a 1973 Nasa paper.

Getting more and more difficult to find something that is not already posted here !
 

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Peter "have you ever seen a grown man naked?" Graves is in this? The audience must have been in stitches when he appeared.

The movie dated from 1977 and"Airplane !" was done in 1980.
 

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Since it doesn't appear to have swing wings, it looks more like a fantasy hybrid of the 2707 and earlier B-70 derivative concepts.
 

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Since it doesn't appear to have swing wings, it looks more like a fantasy hybrid of the 2707 and earlier B-70 derivative concepts.
Not sure about the wings... some 2707-100 models were made with wings swept back fixed, the whole thing molded in a single piece , with only a thin black line painted to separate the tailplane from what was supposed to be the swing wing.
IMHO, this is one of these -100 models, been "restored" with twin tails, but without the black lines to represent the limit between wings and tailplanes. Maybe someone found a damaged old -100 model without fin, and repaired it like that.
Note, i've seen also pictures of -100s models been restaured with canards ala -200, cause it looks cool...
Doudtfull its a genuine Boeing stuff, or later modified , but posted it here anyway.
 

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Found courtesy of google images the Boeing 2707-300 in Pan Am and Lufthansa colours.
They appear to be original pictures sent to the airlines by Boeing.
 

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BTW, at that Paris Air Show, NAA showed a 3-engine SST with a SCAT-something shape. I published it here a while ago ( i.e. 12 years, sigh). Maybe the Republic 3-engine design was SCAT-inspired too. Moreover, at same Paris, NAA CEO gave a full presentation to the press with gorgeous slides of the NAA SST work in progress (they ended to subcontracting from Boeing, if I remember well, like Republic, BTW). Maybe that presentation is now deep in Boeing archives.
 

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What is the aircraft model located top of this large picture?
 

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And when I thought I had scrouged all DTIC/NASA PDFs, I find a nice B2707 (-100 ?) "Aerodynamic Development Model" , with 3 fins (!) and blended wing and fuselage :
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From Document AD0804723 , page 58, :

 

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I haven't fully read the document yet but I don't see it "blended". The wing has dihedral and a negative pitch angle versus the main fuselage axis. This is why the wing looks so thick in the front and side views.
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Boeing used different artists for their publicity artwork for the Boeing SST in airline colours.
This version was used for the House Colors and El Al.
 

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The most often seen artists impressions for the Boeing 2707 300 used the same background.
I have found it online in TWA, Delta, Qantas and KLM and JAL. There used to be one in World Airways on their fan site but this has disappeared.
 

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