The real Re.2007 story

iverson said:
Actually, wing sweep was known in the aeronautical community before the war.
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Yes of course, at theoretical level.
That's why it is hard to find swept wing aircraft fighter before the WWII.

I repeat, in Italy the Guidonia Research Center has conducted a lot of aerodynamical researches in several directions but none (as far as I know) in the direction of swept wings.
 
Personally, I think that the likely fake version of the Re.2007 had to do with the Re.2000 debacle. Longhi already had one "copyright" issue on his hands with the Re.2000 VS P-35, he didn't need another with a "swept wing, fuselage intake, tricycle configuration" with the Re.2008 VS F-86. Essentially, in my opinion it was a "See we DID have something like this already so we aren't copying again!" idea.
 
Airborne2001 said:
Personally, I think that the likely fake version of the Re.2007 had to do with the Re.2000 debacle. Longhi already had one "copyright" issue on his hands with the Re.2000 VS P-35, he didn't need another with a "swept wing, fuselage intake, tricycle configuration" with the Re.2008 VS F-86. Essentially, in my opinion it was a "See we DID have something like this already so we aren't copying again!" idea.
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“se non è vero, è molto ben trovato”:)
 
This Italian fighter I'm not sure if it is fake but I do know that are you sure this is a world war II design because it could have been designed after the war and how do you even know that these are even swept wings or if they're just slightly swept like the 262 are they even swept wings at all etc also there's clearly a lot of material of it so...regardless why are we even arguing about it etc all of this is making me very confused this design clearly regardless of existed or not exists maybe the Italians just drew this out of randomness in the hopes of something cuz let's be honest the Italians at this point were just shooting in the dark hey by the end of the war they were technically on the Allies side so maybe this could just be an allied aircraft I don't know etc...
 
On this website I heard them all, "Titanium was unknown in the US", "pressurized suits for use above 40k feet during ww2 were impressive", "Idk who Arturo Gaviraghi was, probably an amateur designer, maybe just a guy with drawing skills, those aren't real designs at all", and now we can add to the list "Italian designers were unaware of swept wings"...
 
I have a (potential) lore update for this! In a thread about the SAI 404/504 ground attack (?) aircraft, I stumbled across the Caproni R.105:
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CAPRONI R.105
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The Caproni R.105 was a jet fighter project from January 1945 that apparently was also considered for turboprop usage. When looking at the drawing (especially the tail section), one can see how the design was carried over from the Caproni-Vizzola fighter designs. Where this gets good is when one remembers that the Reggiane company was a part of the Caproni group. This means that Reggiane actually did have access to materials for knowing how to convert designs into jet fighters, among other related things. Whether or not Reggiane used this is still up in the air (no pun intended), of course, but it wouldn't be surprising if they did given Capronis own designs.
 

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Airborne2001 said:
Is this, perhaps, the final confirmation? Is anyone able to do any upscaling work on the photo to see the dates of creation for the aircraft?
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I asked Nico if he knew how the blueprints of the Re2007 ended up in the Caproni collection at Mallams but he didn't say anything
 
!Mark said:
I asked Nico if he knew how the blueprints of the Re2007 ended up in the Caproni collection at Mallams but he didn't say anything
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Reggiane was a part of Caproni, so that could be why. (Sorry if you already knew that, but I think it was good to share.) I guess it got to Mallams through sharing/trading over time.
 
Airborne2001 said:
Reggiane was a part of Caproni, so that could be why. (Sorry if you already knew that, but I think it was good to share.) I guess it got to Mallams through sharing/trading over time.
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Of course but the Re2007 blueprints are said to be post war fakes, not made by Reggiane, so they shouldn't be in their archives.
 

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