ah, yes they do.
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Of course, I would be. There is no need for NASA to develop and manage its own launch vehicles anymore. NASA can go to the marketplace for any space launch needs. The government is now a user and not a supplier, even for its own needs.
NOAA doesn't own any shipyards. FAA doesn't own any airliner factories. Why should spaceflight be any different?
Please answer this intelligently and not use any references to any state residents or economic models of other countries.
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AFAIK the proposed white house budget cuts work on Block 2 (and block 1B), Ted cruz is leading a congressional counterproposal but even it only includes work up to Artemis V: The development of Block 1B (needed for AIV) as well as the new RS-25 engines which are needed for AV, personally I don't see a whole lot of support for BOLE.
Of course contract cancellation can take time, the continuing budget resolution can continue funding full work, maybe the congress will vote for it at the last minute, and work on it may continue for some time, but idk, it seems the weakest part of SLS for now.
I feel quite confident saying no payload will ever launch on a BOLE-boosted SLS, which is no earlier than Artemis IX...
Of course contract cancellation can take time, the continuing budget resolution can continue funding full work, maybe the congress will vote for it at the last minute, and work on it may continue for some time, but idk, it seems the weakest part of SLS for now.
I feel quite confident saying no payload will ever launch on a BOLE-boosted SLS, which is no earlier than Artemis IX...
Seems that way--I wonder if Starship will be ready by then either....will some genius come up with a gravity mirror somewhere? Ugh....
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Starship will have an orbital flight and a successful recovery before SLS flies again.
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Likely but not certain IMO, if Starship v3 has the same track record v2 so far, and if NASA is serious about April 2026 being a "no later than" (very much doubt no later than are a thing in astronautics...) and they actually have a shot at launching earlier in 2026, then I could see the other way around.
Highly. They can have 4-5 flights before Artemis II.
I don’t doubt that at all…getting my metal detector ready as we speak…Billy! I told you not to huff’ those tiles! Look what your brother did to that door!
(It’s horrible…he made a chair out of nozzle bits…can’t tell which ones)…
None from this test
(It’s horrible…he made a chair out of nozzle bits…can’t tell which ones)…
None from this test
NASA completes full-duration 'hot fire' test of new RS-25 engine
Washington DC (UPI) Jun 23, 2025 - NASA fired up a full-duration test of its new RS-25 engine that will power the Space Launch System rocket on Artemis missions to the moon, the space agency announced Monday.
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For any NASA related kinetic events these days, I'm crossing my fingers, but not holding my breath...
Philip Sloss has uploaded his latest quarterly update video:
Jack Beyer's remote camera video of the SLS Booster Obsolescence and Life Extension (BOLE) demonstration motor test:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9icOKGJ94
• World's Largest SRB Fails During Testinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9icOKGJ94
• World's Largest SRB Fails During Testing
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Philip Sloss has uploaded a video about whether or not NASA will carry secret production proof test-firings of the RS-25Es (Development tests have been completed):
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https://www.youtube.com/redirect?ev...nnis/status/1775254100575150169&v=dlFkKGUsiKY
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Well. Welcome aboard. Better late to the party than miss it altogether, Byeman.
never was late. Been against SLS since its inception.
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SLS is nearly stacked and has a NET 8 months away. In the last 8 months, the Starship program has had 3 flight failures and lost a vehicle on the ground. They've yet to demonstrate satellite deployment or an effective TPS, or even completed a V2 flight without a major incident. I'll be very pleased if they complete an orbital flight and catch a starship in the next 3-4 flights, but it is by no means the assured outcome.
..and how
Yeah, NET of 8 months. That shows how bad it is. Two launches in 4 years is an abomination.
Starship is trying reusability from the beginning. It could have flown a successful expendable mission long ago.
My prediction is still valid.
Puzzling that Mr. Merriman didn't know that you are the OG when it comes to opposition to SD-HLLVs...even before that became cool with NewSpace kids.
Staying below the conning tower for too long will do that
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Philip Sloss has new update video for the SLS:
Links to social media posts:
https://www.youtube.com/redirect?ev...WKEzjDNMkDGzjsC4iZR2psqHNb22EPl&v=S3hYd_B6RTc
https://x.com/SenMarkKelly/status/194...
https://www.youtube.com/redirect?ev...8zjuH9PfwPvHhAtYYFoRusZskNYXNKl&v=S3hYd_B6RTc
https://x.com/SecDuffyNASA/status/194...https://www.youtube.com/redirect?ev...NASA/status/1946351031287443529&v=S3hYd_B6RTc
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/...https://www.youtube.com/redirect?ev...ight/status/1935548909805601020&v=S3hYd_B6RTc
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Funny when SLS has problems, we don't get those posts that make some idiotic comparisons.
Par for the course would be something like:
Artemis II will be no different than the last Concorde flight and have a flame follow it up like gunpowder chasing Yosemite Sam
Par for the course would be something like:
Artemis II will be no different than the last Concorde flight and have a flame follow it up like gunpowder chasing Yosemite Sam
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That's because Elon isn't the director of NASA.
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Given they've only launched one in 15 years, at a cost of Even-God-Doesn't-Know, that would be a neat trick.
Again, a non-relevant point. Proof testing did was exactly what it was supposed to do.
Does anyone know why they haven't designed a more effective heat shield? so they're going to use the same one but changing the re-entry trajectory.
IIRC the aft reentry shield for the Artemis III Orion CM is being remanufactured to new specifications based on the performance of the Artemis I heat shield during reentry.
From what I recall the Orion CM in the EFT-1 mission didn't have the same velocity at the reentry interface as the Artemis I CM (Also I think it may've been flying a different reentry profile).
That's why it is good to not just test in flight, but to have robust institutions look things over as well
what is a "robust institution"?
Centers that support research....I'd like to see more papers about Starship as there are about SLS.
Some strakes on SLS to even out flow
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Some strakes on SLS to even out flow
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A. How are centers that support research "robust"?
b. Not applicable to commercial vehicles. Do you see papers on the airliners, cruise ships, locomotives, trucks?
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Modifications like I suggested to allow wet workshop conversion would also lend better access on the pad as well as orbit, with no MSS.
And if Starship depots have leaks in orbit…howse around equipment going to help there?
SLS is Marshall. That didn’t leak the first time.
The current leak is a Delta IV second stage.
Last I heard, a Falcon upper stage had problems too (always the bloody upper stages).
All Elon’s bunch did recently was some waterworks.
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And if Starship depots have leaks in orbit…howse around equipment going to help there?
SLS is Marshall. That didn’t leak the first time.
The current leak is a Delta IV second stage.
Last I heard, a Falcon upper stage had problems too (always the bloody upper stages).
All Elon’s bunch did recently was some waterworks.
I can get that at Vegas
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IMO one of the big mistakes when the SLS project went ahead was NASA not designing and building a MSS.
There has been a push to simplify things over time:
Hopefully that trend will reverse.
Less spartan=better access
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Wasn’t it NewSpacers that didn’t want the Saturn LUT preserved?
Hopefully that trend will reverse.
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Wasn’t it NewSpacers that didn’t want the Saturn LUT preserved?
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A good question?
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