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Japanese Secret Projects:Experimental Aircraft of the IJA & IJN 1939-1945

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Just a quick note that the manuscript is in the hands of the publisher and the next phase begins. ;D
 

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I'm looking forward to volume 2, but I really wish the publisher would change the title font on the cover back to the font used on reply #122 above.....
 

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You certainly can ask. :)

Aichi B8A Mokusei (includes brief history of the Aichi B7A Ryusei)
Aichi S1A Denko
Gasuden Kōken-ki
Hitachi “He-Type” Heavy Bomber (includes brief history of the Heinkel He 177)
Kawanishi G9K
Mitsubishi Tozan
Kawanishi K-60
Kawanishi K-100
Kawanishi K-120
Kawanishi KX-3
Kawanishi TB (includes brief history of the Ki-77)
Kawasaki Ki-48-II Kai and Ki-174
Kawasaki Ki-85
Kawasaki Ki-119
Kayaba Ka-1 and Ka-2
Kobeseiko Te-Gō
Koshiki A-3
Kūgishō D5Y1 Myōjō Kai (includes brief history of the Kūgishō D3Y Myōjō)
Kūgishō MXY3 and MXY4
Kūgishō MXY10 and MXY11
Ku-Go directed energy weapon project
Kusho H7Y
Kyūshū Q3W Nankai (includes brief history of the Kyūshū K11W Shiragiku)
Mitsubishi Ki-20
Mitsubishi 1MT1N
Mitsubishi 2MR1 Tobi
Mitsubishi A7M Reppu
Mitsubishi G6M (includes a brief history of heavy escort fighters)
Mitsubishi Ki-69 and Ki-112
Mitsubishi Ki-95 and Ki-103 (includes brief history of the Ki-83)
Mitsubishi Ki-90 (includes brief history of the Junkers Ju 90)
Mitsubishi Ki-109 (includes brief history of similar aircraft, such as the Junker Ju 88P series)
Mitsubishi Ki-167 (includes brief history of the Ki-67 and Mitsubishi To-Go)
Mitsubishi Q2M Taiyo (includes brief history of the Kyūshū Q1W1 Tokai and Mitsubishi G4M2a Model 22 Ko)
Nakajima B4N1
Nakajima G8N Renzan
Nakajima Ki-58
Nakajima Ki-84 variants (to include the Tachikawa Ki-106, Nakajima Ki-113, Manshū Ki-116, Nakajima Ki-117, and other Ki-84 variants)
Nakajima Ki-68 (includes history of the Nakajima G5N Shinzan)
Ni-Go nuclear weapon program (IJA)
F-Go nuclear weapon program (IJN)



Alcides said:
Well today I've got an email from Amazon for preorder the book:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1906537410/ref=pe_512840_84395750_em_1p_0_ti


Can I ask which is the final list of contents?
 

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Oh my good,that will be marvelous,thank you Hikoki.
 

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Wow! Some amazing stuff in there, B8A Mokusei being my favorite right away...

One question though: how could the Mitsubishi 1MT1N and 2MR1 Tobi possibly fit in here? They are from a much older time!
 

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The original draft of the proposed cover actually had the date earlier than 1939 (and the final released cover will have it corrected since the current one has 1939). I wanted to include some pre-war designs that were, more of less, unique and interesting. For example, the development of the Gasuden Kōken-ki played an important role in the later Ki-77 and TB projects.

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Wow! Some amazing stuff in there, B8A Mokusei being my favorite right away...

One question though: how could the Mitsubishi 1MT1N and 2MR1 Tobi possibly fit in here? They are from a much older time!
 

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Hikoki1946 said:
The original draft of the proposed cover actually had the date earlier than 1939 (and the final released cover will have it corrected since the current one has 1939). I wanted to include some pre-war designs that were, more of less, unique and interesting. For example, the development of the Gasuden Kōken-ki played an important role in the later Ki-77 and TB projects.

Stargazer2006 said:
Wow! Some amazing stuff in there, B8A Mokusei being my favorite right away...

One question though: how could the Mitsubishi 1MT1N and 2MR1 Tobi possibly fit in here? They are from a much older time!

You know ... I first I wasn't sure to buy the book but because this intewar aircraft including the mitsubishi ki-20 I HAVE to buy the book.
Is the style like the previous one? A lot of CG images ?
 

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The Ki-20 is a favorite of mine and interesting that it was the only four engine bomber the IJA ever put into service.

The interior will be a heavy change from the first volume. You will not find CG images in abundance. There are some but included now are many more line drawings (3 views, etc.) and photographs. It simply was far more cost effective to obtain photographs than source illustrations.

As for the interior layout, I'd assume it would be the same. But, they did change the cover so I don't know if they have plans to alter the text/illo design or not. I'll know when they send me the draft for review.

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You know ... I first I wasn't sure to buy the book but because this intewar aircraft including the mitsubishi ki-20 I HAVE to buy the book.
Is the style like the previous one? A lot of CG images ?
 

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Hikoki1946 said:
The Ki-20 is a favorite of mine and interesting that it was the only four engine bomber the IJA ever put into service.

The interior will be a heavy change from the first volume. You will not find CG images in abundance. There are some but included now are many more line drawings (3 views, etc.) and photographs. It simply was far more cost effective to obtain photographs than source illustrations.

As for the interior layout, I'd assume it would be the same. But, they did change the cover so I don't know if they have plans to alter the text/illo design or not. I'll know when they send me the draft for review.

Alcides said:
You know ... I first I wasn't sure to buy the book but because this intewar aircraft including the mitsubishi ki-20 I HAVE to buy the book.
Is the style like the previous one? A lot of CG images ?

Ki-20 ? more line 3d drawings ? Sold.
Amazon says: Estimated delivery: [/size]not yet available :)
 

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Amazon update:


Dyer III, Edwin M. "Japanese Secret Projects: Experimental Aircraft of the IJA and IJN 1939 - 1945, Book 2"
Release date: August 15, 2014

Oh :( August is so far :'(
 

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Hi Ed

I cannot wait for the August release date. It's a pity about the Kawasaki Ki-108 and Ki-104 chapters.

Cheers
 

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Just a quick update. Ian Allan has sent me their first draft of the book's text contents and that has been reviewed and sent back. Additional artwork was sourced for the book, mainly 2- and 3-views, in color, of a number of the aircraft in the book.

I am told that the first draft copy of the book will be sent to me sometime in June and after review and any corrections or changes, it will go to print for a August release date.
 

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Nice to see all is going well. Thanks for the update!!!
 

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To whet the appetite, the additional 2- and 3-view color works encompass the Mitsubishi A7M2, Aichi S1A, Mitsubishi G6M, Kyushu K11W1, Kayaba Ka-Go, Mitsubishi Ki-67-I-Kai, Mitsubishi Ki-109, Kobeseiko Te-Go, Nakajima G5N1, Nakajima G8N1, Yokosuka (Kugisho) D3Y1, and the Kawanishi KX-3.
 

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Hikoki1946 said:
To whet the appetite, the additional 2- and 3-view color works encompass the Mitsubishi A7M2, Aichi S1A, Mitsubishi G6M, Kyushu K11W1, Kayaba Ka-Go, Mitsubishi Ki-67-I-Kai, Mitsubishi Ki-109, Kobeseiko Te-Go, Nakajima G5N1, Nakajima G8N1, Yokosuka (Kugisho) D3Y1, and the Kawanishi KX-3.
WOW!!! I'm even more impatient now! ;D
 

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I am, too! I'm looking forward to seeing how the book has been put together. ;D


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Hikoki1946 said:
To whet the appetite, the additional 2- and 3-view color works encompass the Mitsubishi A7M2, Aichi S1A, Mitsubishi G6M, Kyushu K11W1, Kayaba Ka-Go, Mitsubishi Ki-67-I-Kai, Mitsubishi Ki-109, Kobeseiko Te-Go, Nakajima G5N1, Nakajima G8N1, Yokosuka (Kugisho) D3Y1, and the Kawanishi KX-3.
WOW!!! I'm even more impatient now! ;D
 

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So I guess Amazon are a little out with their estimated delivery date of 18th June! :)
 

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I will wait .... i am not sure i will receive it on 25 august ...... :D
 

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Hikoki 1946 can you explain us which beatiful planes will find us on this next book ? :) Sorry for my curiosity !!! :D
 

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The finalized book contents are:

Aichi B8A Mokusei 00
Aichi S1A Denko
Gasuden Kōken-ki
Hitachi ‘He-Type’ Heavy Bomber
IJN bomber projects: the Kawanishi G9K and the Mitsubishi Tozan
Kawanishi K-60
Kawanishi K-100
Kawanishi K-120
Kawanishi KX-3
Kawanishi TB
Kawasaki Ki-85
Kawasaki Ki-119
Kayaba Ka-1 and Ka-2
Kawasaki Ki-48 variants: the Ki-48-II Kai and Ki-174 suicide light bombers
Kobeseiko Te-Gō
Koshiki A-3
Kūgishō D5Y1 Myōjō Kai
Kūgishō MXY3 and MXY4
Kūgishō MXY10 and MXY11
Kusho H7Y
Kyūshū Q3W Nankai
Mitsubishi 1MT1N
Mitsubishi 2MR1 Tobi
Mitsubishi A7M Reppu
Mitsubishi G6M1 heavy escort fighter
Mitsubishi Ki-20
Mitsubishi Ki-67 variants: the Ki-69/Ki-112 escort fighters
Mitsubishi Ki-83 variants: the Ki-95 and Ki-103
Mitsubishi Ki-90
Mitsubishi Ki-109
Mitsubishi Ki-167
Mitsubishi Q2M Taiyo
Nakajima B4N1
Nakajima G8N Renzan
Nakajima Ki-58
Nakajima Ki-68
Nakajima Ki-84 variants: the Ki-106, Ki-113, Ki-116 and Ki-117

Also:

Ku-Go directed energy weapon program
Ni-Go IJA nuclear weapon program
F-Go IJN nuclear weapon program

;D



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Hikoki 1946 can you explain us which beatiful planes will find us on this next book ? :) Sorry for my curiosity !!! :D
 

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By now, some of you may have noticed that Crécy Publishing has acquired Ian Allan Publishing's Midland and Classic imprints. Crécy Publishing will be publishing the book, though, so, do not fear. :)
 

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For those of you who, like me, do not like the change in cover design from that used for the dozen prior volumes in the "Secret Projects" series, I sent a request to the new publisher, Crecy, to change the design to one resembling the rest of the series. I attached to my email the image shown in reply #122 above, though suggesting a change in the word "Japanese" from black to white, and the addition of the number "2" in some fashion. I suggested a similar change for the upcoming "American Secret Projects" book as well.

I got a nice reply from a Mrs. Gill Richardson, who said that she will evaluate my suggestion when she returns to the office on 6/30. I would suggest that any of you who feel as I do should send her a similar email, since there is always strength in numbers. Her address is Gill@crecy.co.uk. You might also want to "cc" Nathan Connolly (Nathan@crecy.co.uk), who forwarded my original request to Mrs. Richardson.

I know that cover design is far less important than the content, which I'm sure will be first-rate from Hikoki1946, but when you have a series of books on your bookshelf, it would be nice if newer volumes matched them in appearance.
 

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gatoraptor said:
when you have a series of books on your bookshelf, it would be nice if newer volumes matched them in appearance.
Very true... provided they don't ALSO change the books' size!
 

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Years ago I bought Tim Mason's 'British Flight Testing - Martlesham Heath 1920-1939'. Published by Putnam.
Years later, I stumbled upon 'The Cold War Years' and 'The Secret Years', also by Tim Mason - in my opinion sequels to the Putnam book, but published by Hikoki.
This year I found Tim Mason's 'The Seaplane Years', as well as a re-issue of 'The Secret Years'.

Four books by the same author, covering British aircraft testing from 1920-1975. Two publishers, three different house styles. I would have preferred to have the lot in one size and style, but there you have it. I'm mainly happy these books are published at all.
 

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Mitsubishi Ki-20 i remember it : it was a bomber derivated from Junkers G-38 . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Ki-20
more interesting will be read about Mitsubishi ki-90 !
 

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One more week! :D
Can't wait to get my hands on this book. Really looking forward to the A7M Reppu section. I'm hoping it will shed more light on the production numbers and their disposition after the war.
Also I'm happy to hear there will be more photos and line drawings mixed with the CGI.
 

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Hikoki, any new info on the status of the book? Amazons 15 August shipping date has turned into an out of stock notice. :/
 

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For those who don't know, Ian Allan sold off their Midland book line to Crecy Publishing. This, of course, has caused a delay as Crecy had to sort out and get organized all the contracts, book files, etc. for all of Midland's titles. I can imagine that was not a small task.

At any rate, things are now sorted out and I am completing the review of the compiled book draft now and will be turning that in very soon. Once the final draft is compiled, the index will be made and after that, off to the press. Crecy is very keen on getting JSP2 done and out to you all so it won't be too much longer.
 

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Arjen said:
Four books by the same author, covering British aircraft testing from 1920-1975. Two publishers, three different house styles. I would have preferred to have the lot in one size and style, but there you have it. I'm mainly happy these books are published at all.
The only one I purchased so far is the Putnam one and it's absolutely awesome! Can't wait to get my hands on the other three...
 

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Hikoki1946 said:
For those who don't know, Ian Allan sold off their Midland book line to Crecy Publishing. This, of course, has caused a delay as Crecy had to sort out and get organized all the contracts, book files, etc. for all of Midland's titles. I can imagine that was not a small task.

At any rate, things are now sorted out and I am completing the review of the compiled book draft now and will be turning that in very soon. Once the final draft is compiled, the index will be made and after that, off to the press. Crecy is very keen on getting JSP2 done and out to you all so it won't be too much longer.
Hi ED! I want to ask you that how do you think about H7Y1? Was it a 4 engine aircraft or 2 engine aircraft?"
 

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It is my opinion that the H7Y1 was a twin-engine design. Even through the Do 26 provided some of the inspiration, the H7Y1 was to use extreme weight savings to get the range. Of course, this was one of the very issues that doomed the H7Y1 to failure.

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Hi ED! I want to ask you that how do you think about H7Y1? Was it a 4 engine aircraft or 2 engine aircraft?"
 

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Hikoki1946 said:
It is my opinion that the H7Y1 was a twin-engine design. Even through the Do 26 provided some of the inspiration, the H7Y1 was to use extreme weight savings to get the range. Of course, this was one of the very issues that doomed the H7Y1 to failure.

blackkite said:
Hi ED! I want to ask you that how do you think about H7Y1? Was it a 4 engine aircraft or 2 engine aircraft?"
Oh your opinion is same as mine and Japanese aircrafts authority Tadashi Nozawa. I want to see a H7Y1 drawing in your new work as soon as possible!! ;)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Books-Tadashi-Nozawa/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=n%3A266239%2Cp_27%3ATadashi%20Nozawa


廠十二試特殊飛行艇想像図
: The artistic impression of Kugisho 12-shi special flying boat
 

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Hikoki1946 said:
Even through the Do 26 provided some of the inspiration, the H7Y1 was to use extreme weight savings to get the range. Of course, this was one of the very issues that doomed the H7Y1 to failure.

See also "This cannot end well." :eek:



The Japanese aero industry seems to have made something of a habit of this, although it's my understanding that they were getting out of the habit towards the end. Granted that the "nurse your crippled airplane home in a technically unflyable state" stories I have read are very heavily biased towards the accounts of Allied pilots/crew, the lack of such stories among Japanese aircrews seems telling. Does your research indicate any such in the Japanese-language literature?
 

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To be honest, I focus my research on the technical aspects and development of the aircraft. So, I've given no time to reading stories of Japanese aviators and military pilots.

I would take an educated assumption that Japanese pilots, if they were in the position to return to base successfully, they would. When shimpu missions became more prevalent, the mindset was that to die for the Emperor and Japan was noble and worthy but to die and not bring results was meaningless. Thus, I can reason that if a pilot in a damaged aircraft could not find a target to attack, why wouldn't he return to base, have the aircraft repaired, and try again?


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Hikoki1946 said:
Even through the Do 26 provided some of the inspiration, the H7Y1 was to use extreme weight savings to get the range. Of course, this was one of the very issues that doomed the H7Y1 to failure.

See also "This cannot end well." :eek:



The Japanese aero industry seems to have made something of a habit of this, although it's my understanding that they were getting out of the habit towards the end. Granted that the "nurse your crippled airplane home in a technically unflyable state" stories I have read are very heavily biased towards the accounts of Allied pilots/crew, the lack of such stories among Japanese aircrews seems telling. Does your research indicate any such in the Japanese-language literature?
 

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I also want to see Kawanishi TB 3 side view drawing and pictures in this book.
 

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