Gerald R. Ford Class CVN

Sferrin said:
I'll bet you think Biden read everything put in front of him. :D
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He always never read everything they told him to read that required reading, didn't eat my grammar crackers. When he painted he red everything then brushed some of it off. This is getting bad.
 
Josh_TN said:
Trump posts dozens of times a day. You don’t need to be a psychologist to figure out what he thinks; you just need a truth social account.
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One thing about Trump, he has an active mind and definitely can multi-task compared to other past POTUSs, which can be good and bad. I like seeing involvement by the POTUS, gotta keep him on leash sometimes, but that is the CEO/business man in him, I don't want a career govt bureaucrat who is a parrot. CVN-78 is first in class and unfortunately, first in fixing new-tech issues, if it was easy, everyone could do it.
 
Hydroman said:
One thing about Trump, he has an active mind and definitely can multi-task compared to other past POTUSs, which can be good and bad. I like seeing involvement by the POTUS, gotta keep him on leash sometimes, but that is the CEO/business man in him, I don't want a career govt bureaucrat who is a parrot. CVN-78 is first in class and unfortunately, first in fixing new-tech issues, if it was easy, everyone could do it.
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Thing is, he's not stupid. If it got more serious than an off-the-cuff remark someone would give him the, "here's what it gets us" talk and that would be that. It's his JOB to question things when they aren't going according to plan. And what's the best way to light a fire? "If it doesn't perform we'll replace it with something that does."
 
EmoBirb said:
It wouldn't be a crippling change, aside from being technically difficult and thus leading to heavy delays, but the simple question would be: why?
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The new reactors don't have the oversized steam generators installed (or included in the design work, IIRC). The ship doesn't have steam lines run up to the cats. So you'd have to do the design work to install oversized steam generators down at the reactors, you'd have to rip the ship open to install the oversized steam generators and the steam lines, it'd be a decade of an entire carrier out of service to do.



Josh_TN said:
But yes there was the general feeling/movement that government is slow and inefficient compared to commercial venues, and government based development was essentially abandoned.
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For software and computer stuff in general, yes, the government is extremely slow.

The typical computer contract delivered hardware 5-10 years behind state of the art while I was in. There's a very big reason that the Navy-Marine Corps Intranet was bought as a service.



Sferrin said:
I'll bet you think Biden read everything put in front of him. :D
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I'll bet you think any president reads everything put in front of him.
 
If everything goes according to plan. Let's just keep in mind that it was supposed to be in service by now.
 
Hydroman said:
I'm pretty sure CVN-80 and 81 are build concurrently, correct?
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Yep. And the USN got permission to buy 82 and 83 at the same time so I imagine they'll keep doing this. Hopefully the builds will line up favorably. (As in 80 ready to float out of the dock by the time 81 is ready to move West.)

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HII Moves Enterprise (CVN 80) for First Time, Enabling Construction of Two Aircraft Carriers at Once

NEWPORT NEWS, Va., (Nov. 19, 2024) — HII (NYSE: HII) announced today that its Newport News Shipbuilding division has successfully transferred the mid-body hull section of Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier Enterprise (CVN 80), allowing the shipyard to begin the concurrent assembly of two...
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Older than that.
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This tradition may stem from the action of the Dutch admiral Maarten Tromp who tied a broom to his main mast after defeating the British admiral Robert Blake at the Battle of Dungeness in 1652. This has often been interpreted as a message that he would "sweep the British from the seas". This story remains unsubstantiated,[34] but may have its origin in the tradition of hoisting a broom as a sign that a ship was for sale,[35] which seems more likely as Tromp had captured two of Blake's ships in the battle.[36]
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Anyone know when the Ford's FY26 PIA was scheduled to start? They're sending her to the Middle East right now...
 
Scott Kenny said:
Ordinarily I'd have guesstimated "supposed to have started by now", but it looks like the Ford is getting screwed with a long deployment.
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I thought that a new build CVN's first cruise was a short one, a "Milk Run", to detect any unexpected problems/design flaws that didn't show up in its sea-trials?
 
NMaude said:
I thought that a new build CVN's first cruise was a short one, a "Milk Run", to detect any unexpected problems/design flaws that didn't show up in its sea-trials?
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Ford has made her first deployment already. First full length deployment was May 23 - Jan 24, second started end of June 2025 and is still ongoing.
 
Scott Kenny said:
Ordinarily I'd have guesstimated "supposed to have started by now", but it looks like the Ford is getting screwed with a long deployment.
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Long is an understatement, she's probably setting a record for longest in the 21st century. Depending on how this *3 days to Tehran* Special Military Operation goes, she might cross the year mark.
 
NMaude said:
I thought that a new build CVN's first cruise was a short one, a "Milk Run", to detect any unexpected problems/design flaws that didn't show up in its sea-trials?
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Yes, but IIRC this actually isn’t its first cruise and in any case the administration has pressed it into service because it is available. There will likely be maintenance and retention issues associated with that.
 
Josh_TN said:
Yes, but IIRC this actually isn’t its first cruise and in any case the administration has pressed it into service because it is available. There will likely be maintenance and retention issues associated with that.
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Given that it's the first of its kind, I'd like to think they're taking liberties to stretch its legs and monitor performance during sustained operations. That data can then translate into lessons learned for future builds & carrier ops.
 
Moose said:
Long is an understatement, she's probably setting a record for longest in the 21st century. Depending on how this *3 days to Tehran* Special Military Operation goes, she might cross the year mark.
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The US had no problem rotating carriers during the GWOT. I doubt that the US will have any trouble rotating carriers if the Special Military Operation goes long.
 

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