CX-HLS (Cargo Experimental, Heavy Logistic Support) designs & derivatives

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I found and cropped this picture of Douglas D-920 mock up under construction
(Source: https://www.google.com.au/search?client=ms-opera-mobile&channel=new&espv=1&biw=360&bih=311&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=nhrtWt3BGobR0gSW1Kj4Dg&q=LeFanaDelAviationMag+on+Twitter:+Douglas+CX-HLS&oq=LeFanaDelAviationMag+on+Twitter:+Douglas+CX-HLS&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.3...15229.58439..59452...0....396.3935.0j3j14j1......0....1.o%2FOWeqawq6s%3D#imgrc=8-lkMi1MQYr6HM:)

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Douglas C5A model

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-DOUGLAS-C-5A-CX-HLS-USAF-MODEL-PLANE-W-STAND/282957743760?hash=item41e1988690:g:dMIAAOSwQRla8eo8
 

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Pioneer said:
I found and cropped this picture of Douglas D-920 mock up under construction
(Source: https://www.google.com.au/search?client=ms-opera-mobile&channel=new&espv=1&biw=360&bih=311&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=nhrtWt3BGobR0gSW1Kj4Dg&q=LeFanaDelAviationMag+on+Twitter:+Douglas+CX-HLS&oq=LeFanaDelAviationMag+on+Twitter:+Douglas+CX-HLS&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.3...15229.58439..59452...0....396.3935.0j3j14j1......0....1.o%2FOWeqawq6s%3D#imgrc=8-lkMi1MQYr6HM:)

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clearer image form the same source
 

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DOUGLAS C-5A CX-HLS USAF MODEL

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-DOUGLAS-C-5A-CX-HLS-USAF-MODEL-PLANE-W-STAND/282957743760?hash=item41e1988690:g:dMIAAOSwQRla8eo8
 

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pometablava said:
Giants of the Sky by Bill Gunston
ISBN 1-85260-258-9

LOCKHEED MARTIN C-5 GALAXY: WarbirdTech 36


In 1960 the USAF launched Project Forecast which called for the world's biggest logistic transport, the CX-4, in the 600,000 lb category. It should be a jet. The only study I know comes from Douglas but I have no details about its Model Number. I guess that Boeing and Lockheed carried out its own designs.

With all the data generated under CX-4 study, the USAF launched an specification for a CX-HLS aircraft. The winner was Lockheed (C-5 Galaxy)

Douglas submitted several designs: Model D-890, D-895, D-900. According to "Giants of the Sky", the definitive design was D-916 while D-920 was the submission for the Wardbirdtech volume.

I have included to this post the D-920.

The last scan is Boeing C-5A from Giants of the Sky. Anybody knows Boeing's model number for it?

A clearer and larger view;

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19631021/17/2
 

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I agree with scott opinion about full-scale mockups. The SST produced three of them (2707-200, 2707-300, and L-2000). The first vanished without a trace. The second only saved its nose, and after 40 years spent travelling across the United States. As for the L-2000, the FAA took it from Lockheed and used it for SST passenger evacuations, and then it was scrapped. A pity, really.

The Shuttle full size mockup survived only because the Shuttle kept evolving over the years and decades, and Rockwell had to keep up with the changes brought by NASA.
 

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Just found this snippet of information in the book The C-5A Galaxy Scandal: A $5 Billion Boondoggle by the Military Industrial Complex by Berkeley Rice

(P.S. I hope this info hasn't already been denoted :eek:)




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Unbelievable. 200 000 pages, 5 months to read them, and then Lockheed managed to fool the U.S generals. :eek:
 

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Oh, found this information from The C-5A Galaxy Scandal: A $5 Billion Boondoggle by the Military Industrial Complex by Berkeley Rice very interesting!

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Hello!

Interesting official image of the GL-194-12 I found on the front of an Aerospace Projects Review Catalog.

http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/adoc28.jpg
 

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SorenThePilot said:
Interesting official image of the GL-194-12 I found on the front of an Aerospace Projects Review Catalog.

http://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/catalog/adoc28.jpg

Welcome aboard at first,and nice find.
 

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Similar drawings are elsewhere in this thread but thought I'd include it.
 

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So, I have heard that boeings design was considered superior and was recommended by the usaf but McNamara choices the Lockheed proposal because it was cheeper (and obviously they under bid) now what i have not been able to find is why the boeing design was considered superior, because from what I can find (wich isn't a lot) is that both proposals were practically the same.
 

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