ASCC/ASIC/US DoD Reporting Name for Soviet/Russian/Chinese Aircraft and Missiles

See MADCAP, MOSS, MAY, MAXDOME, MIDAS, MAINSTAY... all adaptations of airliners or transports to greater or lesser degree.

I don't know about MULLET specifically though.
 
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True, true, but all have major airframe mods - rotodomes (Mainstay, Moss, Madcap), Large kit added (Maxdome), wings moved forward - May . Midas...hmmm...maybe...but there is a separate Candid tanker. 'Mullet' I would place in the same category as Coot-B or the various Bear versions but the Tu-204/214 hasn't been assigned an ASCC name as far as I'm aware.

Speaking of names, I've always pronounced Russian aircraft designations as 'T-U' or 'S-U' but never really bothered about this much before. Recently, especially on YouTube, I find them being referred to as ''Too' and 'Soo'. What's the correct usage? Or is this a computer reading artifact?

Chris
 
True, but there's no base ASCC for the Tu-204.

MiG and Yak were always not M-I-G and Y-A-K. But I also would say S-u and T-u.
 
CJGibson said:
Speaking of names, I've always pronounced Russian aircraft designations as 'T-U' or 'S-U' but never really bothered about this much before. Recently, especially on YouTube, I find them being referred to as ''Too' and 'Soo'. What's the correct usage? Or is this a computer reading artifact?

Chris
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not these long 'oo''s. "Tu" and "Su" just like they are being pronounced inside full Tupolev or Sukhoi names
 
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FLANKER G1 = Su-30MKK
FLANKER G2 = Su-30MK2
FLANKER G3 = Su-27UBK
FLANKER J mod = Su-27SM3
 
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CH-AA-7 = PL-12
CH-AA-9 = PL-10

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CAA-3 = PL-4

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Nagumo said:
SA-29 = Verba https://quizlet.com/283255773/pqs-recce-aircraftlandsub-flash-cards/ and https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/74410462.pdf

SA-22 GOBLIN = ? tracked variant od Pantsir https://quizlet.com/308211601/surface-to-air-threat-recce-flash-cards/
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Seams from published books and papers

SA-X-25 9M337 strella 10ML an SA-13 sucessor
SA-26 SA-3 upgrade
SA-27 SA-17 upgrade buk-M3
SA-X-28 S-350E S-300 upgrade S-400 supplement
SA-29 9M336 manpad 9k333 tri colour seeker VERBA can vehicle mounted
 
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FLANKER G1 = Su-30MKK
FLANKER G2 = Su-30MK2
FLANKER G3 = Su-27UBK
FLANKER J mod = Su-27SM3
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it makes no logical sense for 27UBK to be a G. It's probably a C. It also precedes MKK and MK2 chronologically so I think the author made a mistake.
 
Flight International, 8 January 1983
 

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That's a strange listing considering that the 'Hoop' was assigned to the Ka-22 Vintokryl which flew 1959-64 and the Yak-30 and 32 were nearly 25 years old by 1983 as well. Was this just a case of the ASCC catching up?
 
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That's a strange listing considering that the 'Hoop' was assigned to the Ka-22 Vintokryl which flew 1959-64 and the Yak-30 and 32 were nearly 25 years old by 1983 as well. Was this just a case of the ASCC catching up?
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No, most likely just Flight International becoming aware of them.
 
NMaude said:
The NATO designation for the 3M22 Zircon is the SS-N-33
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That's the DoD designation. It seems pedantic but it's an important distinction, DoD designations are assigned upon substantive evidence of a new system. NATO reporting names are only issued when it is confirmed in service.

The constant use of terms such as "SA-5 GAMMON" is tautologous.

In terms of missiles the NATO scheme has the advantage that it reads directly across to the naval systems; a GRUMBLE is the same thing on land or at sea instead of having to remember that an SA-N-6 is the same as SA-10.
 
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Kiltonge said:
In terms of missiles the NATO scheme has the advantage that it reads directly across to the naval systems; a GRUMBLE is the same thing on land or at sea instead of having to remember that an SA-N-6 is the same as SA-10.
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That makes sense, I've been getting the two confused. So we know what the DoD designation is (SS-N-33) but does anyone know what the NATO reporting name is for the missile?

Edit: Does NATO's website have a link to a list of NATO reporting names?
 
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