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replacement... funny you could/cant update with stealth.
what's next
Fusion thrusters
lasers frickin lasers
No, it'll be a stealthed F-111 on steroids, because the environment has been that devastating to low-and-slow aircraft.

I wouldn't be surprised that all future aircraft are going to have to be fitted with what GURPS calls 'radical' stealth features across the spectrum.
 
Exciting!

But Vague… How many aircraft are being retained each year? What units will remain flying the Hog until 2030? What budgets get redirected to keep the A-10 flying for another ~4 years?

Hopefully this will keep the Guard and AF Reserve somewhat pleased - the whole “divest to invest” scheme has not been kind to them.
 
The U.S. Air Force has announced plans to extend the operational service life of the A-10 Thunderbolt II until 2030.
Source (X fka twitter) : View: https://x.com/i/status/2046277241613758733
Probably the time limit that the airframes will last with the Depot at Hill now deactivating/deactivated. Follow-on support/sustainment will be ... interesting. Not to mention who the remaining TF34 Depot/queen bee is and what their sunset plan is.
 
This perfectly encapsulates the pure idiocy that is this administration's DOD.

You end depot-level MX on an airplane that has been slated for retirement for the past 15 years just to delay said retirement with absolutely zero reason or cause. This thing will siphon even more dollars that could be better spent elsewhere.
 
This perfectly encapsulates the pure idiocy that is this administration's DOD.

You end depot-level MX on an airplane that has been slated for retirement for the past 15 years just to delay said retirement with absolutely zero reason or cause. This thing will siphon even more dollars that could be better spent elsewhere.
This isn't DOD.

It's Congress telling DOD that despite stopping depot-level MX, DOD will continue to operate A-10s until at least 2030.
 
I mean isn't the decision to NOT retire the A-10... what every previous administration chose as well? So I see no reason to attach the blame on this one.
 
This isn't DOD.

It's Congress telling DOD that despite stopping depot-level MX, DOD will continue to operate A-10s until at least 2030.
Where is Congress in this decision? I know Congress have been resisting A-10 retirement for a long time but this is the USAF getting approval from Sec War to keep the aircraft in service a couple more years at most.
 
That is surprising Forest Green and news that I was not expecting, looks like I can relax now. Obviously the A-10s action in the Iran war has had an effect on the Generals like it did after Desert Storm when they were also trying to retire the A-10.
 
That is surprising Forest Green and news that I was not expecting, looks like I can relax now. Obviously the A-10s action in the Iran war has had an effect on the Generals like it did after Desert Storm when they were also trying to retire the A-10.
How long have they been planning to retire the A10 lol?
 
How many of them got their wings refurbished/rebuilt by that program a few years ago? I have to assume those ones still have some life left in them, any of the others are probably overdue for retirement.
 
Where is Congress in this decision? I know Congress have been resisting A-10 retirement for a long time but this is the USAF getting approval from Sec War to keep the aircraft in service a couple more years at most.
One Big Ugly Bill.



How long have they been planning to retire the A10 lol?
Since 1978 or so.
 
One Big Ugly Bill.
The only stipulation, other than preventing complete divestment of the fleet in 2026, is the following,
SEC. 147. MODIFICATION TO MINIMUM INVENTORY REQUIREMENT FOR A–10 AIRCRAFT.(a) In General.—Section 134(d) of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017 (Public Law 114–328; 130 Stat. 2038) is amended by striking “96 A–10 aircraft designated as primary mission aircraft inventory until a period of 90 days has elapsed following the date on which the Secretary submits to the congressional defense committees the report under subsection (e)(2)” and inserting “93 A–10 aircraft designated as primary mission aircraft inventory until October 1, 2026”.(b) Prohibition on Retirement.—(1) In general.—During the period beginning on October 1, 2025 and ending on September 30, 2026, the Secretary of the Air Force may not—(A) reduce funding for unit personnel or weapon system sustainment activities for A–10 aircraft in a manner that presumes future congressional authority to divest such aircraft;(B) keep an A–10 aircraft in a status considered excess to the requirements of the possessing command and awaiting disposition instructions (commonly referred to as “XJ” status); or(C) decrease the total aircraft inventory of A–10 aircraft below 103 aircraft.(2) Exception.—The prohibition under paragraph (1) shall not apply to individual A–10 aircraft that the Secretary of the Air Force determines, on a case-by-case basis, to be no longer mission capable and uneconomical to repair because of aircraft accidents, mishaps, or excessive material degradation and non-airworthiness status of certain aircraft.(c) Briefing Required.—Not later than March 31, 2026, the Secretary of the Air Force shall provide to the Committees on Armed Services of the Senate and the House of Representatives a briefing on the status of A–10 aircraft inventory and the proposed plan for divesting all A–10 aircraft prior to fiscal year 2029. The briefing shall cover, at a minimum, the following:(1) The number of A–10 Total Aircraft Inventory aircraft disaggregated by Combat Coded Aircraft, Primary Mission Aircraft Inventory, Backup Aircraft Assigned, Attrition Reserve, tail number, and location.(2) The planned divestment date of each such aircraft.(3) The detailed plan for how and when the Secretary proposes to proceed with divestment of aircraft for each A–10 unit prior to fiscal year 2029.(4) The aircraft transition plan for replacing A–10 aircraft with new or existing replacement aircraft in each unit that is divesting of the A–10 aircraft, which shall include an explanation of—(A) how the Secretary plans to minimize adverse personnel impacts within such units, including adverse impacts with respect to retention, currency, proficiency, qualifications, certifications, and training; and(B) how the Secretary plans to minimize or eliminate any scheduling gap that may occur with respect to a unit divesting from the A–10 aircraft and transitioning to a new or existing replacement aircraft.(5) The information and content format that was provided in the briefing to the Committees on Armed Services of the Senate and the House of Representatives by the Headquarters Air Force, Deputy Chief of Staff for Plans and Programs (HAF/A8), on February 13, 2023, titled “A–10 Divestment Placemats”.(6) Any other information the Secretary determines relevant.

I don't see the above being linked to what the USAF has done in extending the fleet out at least another year.
 
That is surprising Forest Green and news that I was not expecting, looks like I can relax now. Obviously the A-10s action in the Iran war has had an effect on the Generals like it did after Desert Storm when they were also trying to retire the A-10.
Somewhat poetic that A-10 on saving over and over members of community considering them most outdated.
No replacement for half a century, no thorough update for decades, but still the same result even in the second half of the 2020s.
 
I'll maintain that the USAF had a very good option to supplant the A-10 with the Textron Scorpion.
 
US already has the A-1K to replace the A-10. The Ares would have made a nice replacement as well, and there's always the AT-6
 
US already has the A-1K to replace the A-10. The Ares would have made a nice replacement as well, and there's always the AT-6
No, the OA-1K is not a good replacement for the A-10. Not for the CSAR role.

It was never intended to be a replacement for the A-10, it is intended to be a replacement for something like an AC-47 or AC-130. Something to fly armed overwatch over SOCOM missions.

The USAF could use a replacement for the CSAR escort role the A-10 fills.
 
I think people are forgetting about the pilot retention stuff. With the A-10 you have a relevant slot for people who failed the T-7/38 class but still wants another shot. Else they are bleeding over to the airlines and atp it's GG. Which is why you kinda need a turbofan powered platform.

Does anyone have the latest CPFH figures for the A-10?
 
I'll maintain that the USAF had a very good option to supplant the A-10 with the Textron Scorpion.
Scorpion over Iran would've been a sad joke. Nothing personal to Scorpion, it's a nice, but different aircraft.
 
Scorpion over Iran would've been a sad joke. Nothing personal to Scorpion, it's a nice, but different aircraft.
Except that had it been inducted a decade before the variant flying over Iran would be significantly different and better. Textron is building world class composite armour you don't think they can fit a few on the bird instead of the wrought iron the A-10 had?
 
Except that had it been inducted a decade before the variant flying over Iran would be significantly different and better. Textron is building world class composite armour you don't think they can fit a few on the bird instead of the wrought iron the A-10 had?
Sorry, my brainworms failed me. I thought about A-1K...
 

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