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That you very much for that information. The factors which you referenced regarding dispersion were of great interest. Some of them (different lots of powder, for example) were eye openers.
From what I've read, the poor gunnery results of Japanese A class cruisers in the early 30s were the genesis of the Type 98 fire control system, and the gunnery of those cruisers doesn't appear to have 'markedly' increased during the Pacific war.
I generally agree with your statement that using a few short actions under varying conditions to make broad claims is undesirable. I'm not satisfied however, that 'that' is the case here. Samar was the first occasion in which Yamato, its crew, and the Type 98 fire control system were put to the test in a long range surface action. Yet in that first test, they obtained four 1st- salvo 18.1" and three 1st- salvo 6.1" hits on two different vessels from over 20,000 yards- and one of the main battery hits was aimed solely by the ship's Type 22 radar. Moreover, Lundgren has stated in forum conversation (tapatalk) that Yamato 'did' hit White Plains from 34,000+ yards and put an 18" diameter by 8" deep gouge in White Plains' hull.
White it's certainly true that although this first surface action was Yamato's only surface action, the results which the ship obtained are far in excess of the norm. As far as I'm aware, no capital ship of any navy achieved anything close to this level of performance during the Second World War. So, either the Japanese were blessed with good fortune which was rarely, if ever, equaled in naval history, or Yamato's crew performance and/or the Type 98 fire control system were better that we in the west have given them credit for. Certainly, the fact that her gunnery officer ranged on Gambier Bay with her first salvo using only the ship's Type 22 radar would seem to indicate that it was far from being terrible, and was instead a good system at ranging (although clearly inferior to what we put at sea by that time).
Let me just address this first then I will respond about Truk in a following post. The overarching issue here is selection bias. Using an isolated case as proof of overall capability is methodologically problematic - it's like judging a baseball player's career by their best (or worst) game; even if we take these reports at face value. Naval gunnery is inherently stochastic and with the very small sample sizes that we have for capital ship naval gunnery as a whole which makes any analysis problematic in general. No serious systematic analysis would consider such a approach.
The Type 98 GFCS on the Yamtos was a improvement over the older Type 94 systems but it wasn't a dramatic improvement. To that end, most fire control systems during the interwar years were a series of incremental improvements over their predecessors. Only with the introduction of radar was there a true dramatic shift. If I am being honest, I would opine that the action off Sumar more likely represented a "best game" performance for Yamato rather than the mean. I say this because she was largely inactive most of the war and from what I have been able to piece together from the TROMs and secondary sources such as Senkan Yamato, Senkan Yamato no Kenzô, and Senkan Yamato. Sono Sei to Shi is that in her 40 months of operational career, she only exercised her main battery a total of 8 times.
These records may not be complete but it is worth noting that in some of those Japanese references they detail those exercises and they were very lacking in not only in fidelity (shooting at a anchored target) but also only expended 1 or two salvos. There was no mention of firing against a moving target that other navies of the period did. Given that even the most automated systems require crew training and practical experience, I think there was a credible job on the part of Yamato's crew that day. I will say, however, I the idea of crediting her with a "hit" on White Plains and if that is a valid criteria then you have to assign a hit by Iowa off Truk on Nowaki. I do not accept either as valid criteria as a actual hit.