Harpoon missile

[TomS]

whether there were any new proposals during the competition when the NSM was selected to replace the Harpoon.

That was done as a rapid procurement, and primarily as a weapon for LCS, which didn't have any AShM at all. In that time scale (and budget), there was really no room for truly developmental weapons. And no one in the US had anything completely off-the-shelf ready to deploy that was comparable to NSM.

 

[Firefinder]

Honestly off the cuff the number of Harpoon size Antiship missiles that the US has access is...

Like 10?

Otomat
Exocets
Gabriel
RBS 15
Those are of the same generation so likely cut for the same reason as the Harpoon is despite upgrades.

Marte
NSM
Penguin (in US Service)
Are small types

SSM-700K C-Star
Hsiung Feng twins.
As the new big ones.

And those are the easy likely to sell to USA missiles that Congress will allow that fit in the same role and size as the Harpoon. Also were a thing in the timeframe and wasn't a RD project. There's not that many choices on the self.

So it was basically the NSM or spend to make a new one in a niche market that will end up as US only gear...

 

[wuai486]

There was also the Joint Air-Breathing Multi-Role Missile (JABMM) for the LCS, but that vanished into the mists of obscurity rather quickly.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/boeing-joint-air-breathing-multi-role-missile-jabmm.14317/

Boeing’s New Missile for Littoral Combat Ships

freerepublic.com

Boeing's New Missile for Littoral Combat Ships | Military.com

www.military.com

thank you very much

 

[wuai486]

That was done as a rapid procurement, and primarily as a weapon for LCS, which didn't have any AShM at all. In that time scale (and budget), there was really no room for truly developmental weapons. And no one in the US had anything completely off-the-shelf ready to deploy that was comparable to NSM.

That's truly disappointing. But even when there were options, the U.S. Navy didn't seem to seize the opportunity. The failure of the NLOS-LS led to the LCS being equipped only with AGM-114 and AGM-176, which have a far shorter range than the NLOS-LS.

 

[TomS]

That's truly disappointing. But even when there were options, the U.S. Navy didn't seem to seize the opportunity. The failure of the NLOS-LS led to the LCS being equipped only with AGM-114 and AGM-176, which have a far shorter range than the NLOS-LS.

The failure of NLOS can be laid mainly at the feet of the Army, who dropped the idea and left the Navy holding the bag. (Though why the Navy signed up for that particular bag is another question.)

 

[Josh_TN]

Anti surface warfare has always been the realm of AirPower for the USN. Harpoon itself was developed to engage cruise missile submarines that had to surface to launch missiles (Echo I/II, Juliet). Only in the last decade or so has the USN started taking AShM seriously, and for the most part it has focused on dual use weapons and/or rapidly adapting existing platforms.

 

[zjz]

F-15SA Development Aircraft Used to Test AGM-84 Harpoon Block II Update​

F-15SA Development Aircraft Used to Test AGM-84 Harpoon Block II Update

The U.S. Navy used one of Boeing’s F-15SA instrumented aircraft to conduct the final test flight of the AGM-84 Harpoon Block II Update at the Point Mugu

theaviationist.com

 

[zjz]

A SHIP WHOSE TIME HAS COME” 1977 U.S. NAVY HYDROFOIL SEA TRIAL USS PEGASUS (PHM-1) HARPOON MISSILE​

XD69634 "A SHIP WHOSE TIME HAS COME" 1977 U.S. NAVY HYDROFOIL SEA TRIAL USS PEGASUS (PHM-1) HARPOON MISSILE - PeriscopeFilm - Stock Footage

Produced at the Naval Photographic Center by the David Taylor Naval Ship R&D Center and narrated by Jackson Beck, “A Ship Whose Time Has Come” (July 1977) sheds light on the work that went into the development of the USS Pegasus (PHM-1) - the first ship in a new class of hydrofoils and the US...

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I found more Harppon stuff in the following links but was unable to register or view the video ..... anyone has any idea or access?

Thanks!

XD7048z " Encapsulated Harpoon Weapon System " Circa 1980 McDonnell Douglas Missile Promo - PeriscopeFilm - Stock Footage

"McDonnell Douglas Presents Encapsulated Harpoon Weapon System", Eastman Color, Red Fade

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XD3348 " The Canister Launched Harpoon " Circa 1977 Promo Film for McDonnell Douglas Harpoon Anti-Ship Missiles - PeriscopeFilm - Stock Footage

"Canister Launched Harpoon", "- A launch installation consisting of four tubes on board a ship fires "Harpoon" anti-ship missiles." "- The rocket is placed in a launch tube. The range is more than 50 nautical miles." "- In combination with use by aircraft, submarines and other ships, a wide...

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