Antonov Projects

ucon said:
Antonov VTOL bomber project.
Source: album with drawings and description
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Hi! Where is this album published? In a avico press publication?
Greetings
 
Hi! It is NOT bublication, it is real album, which gave me the dauther of well-known designer
who worked with Antonov at that time.
Note the text - НОВАЯ СХЕМА (new scheme). Does it means that there was "old scheme"?
I don't know yet, but try to clear
 
Here you've got a photocopy (unfortunately I have no access to a scaner at this time) of a drawing showing the An-26 project of 1957. It was a predecessor to what then became the An-24 and as such has nothing to do with the An-26 that was a military rear-loader derivative of the An-24 (btw the drawing may be seen in https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/antonov-projects.11520/post-109586 where it is wrongly captioned as An-24). Source: 'История конструкций самолетов в СССР 1951-1965 гг.' ('A History of Aircraft Construction in the USSR 1951-1965').

Information from the Russian book:
MTOW 20.5 t
cruise speed @ 6000m: 520-550 kph
range @ 6000m with 40 pax: 800 km
service ceilign: 11000m
take-off ground run: 300m
landing ground run: 250m
two AI-20P engines

The An-26 is described in 'Antonov's Turboprop Twins' by Yefim Gordon, Dmitriy Komissarov with Sergey Komissarov. According to that book each AI-20P has a power of 5800 ehp.
Here is a cut-out from that book.

BR
Piotr
 

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The An-171 was a maritime patrol (MPA) version of the An-170 project, which would have been a heavily modified and larger An-70, originally intended to replace Ilyushin Il-76.
Reddit's Weird Wings said:
Unrealized replacement of the Tu-142. Visualization of the appearance of the An-171, which was presented to the USSR Ministry of Defense in December 1991
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Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WeirdWings/comments/hkou69
 

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The An-171 concept is very interesting, I have always assumed that some consideration must have been given to developing a Tu-142 successor as the Soviets certainly seem to have considered an Il-38 successor in the form of the Beriev A-40 and a Tu-204 derivative. Does anyone know if Ilyushin considered a large MPA derivative of any of its airliner designs? The Il-90 might have produced a good airframe to be the basis of a very long range MPA.
 
And this is the Antonov 714 ... sorry for misplaced post, but I did not realize that there was a post on the AN-14SH elsewhere
 

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I'm assuming the B-52 on the bottom is used as a size comparison. Also, has it been posted in the Ilyushin Projects page?
 
From Kryl'ya Rodine 2021-1/2,

here is some Projects,we displayed them before but in a
clearer sights.
 

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TinWing said:
No matter the outcome of today’s festivities, it might be high time for Boeing to start costing or recosting a new C-17 production line. The days of cheap, chartered civilian An-124s might be over for good. At very least, an order of 50 or so C-17s to replace the C-5 fleet seems reasonable.
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Probably wouldn’t be feasible seeing that the tooling is long gone and the Long Beach production plant has been turned into an office park. There are quite a few idled 747-400s and C-5As baking in the sun however which could be reactivated.
 
How many ? for C-5As baking in the sun however which could be reactivated ?
 
bechar06 said:
How many ? for C-5As baking in the sun however which could be reactivated ?
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There are 57 C-5A at AMARG (Davis Monthan). How many of those could actually be made flyable again? No idea. Some have definitely been scavenged for parts.

And then there's the concern about civilian access to An-124s or equivalents. Some of that load can be taken by conventional freighters, but there is a large class of oversized cargos that will not go in via a side door.
 
https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/eco...agnie-de-transport-de-marchandises-1643126802
"Airbus Beluga Transport " has just been created as an oversized cargo transportation company: by "recycling" the five A300-derived, first generation Belugas. This can haul up to 47 metric tons and, most importantly, diameter of the cargo hold is 7.1 meters - a tad more than An-124 / 225 which are around 6 meters.

Airbus did that because a brand new generation of Belugas is entering service, derived from the A330 and with a diameter extended to 8 meters.

And of course NASA is still using the Super Guppy... that Airbus used once, in their beginnings.
 
TinWing said:
Grey Havoc said:
https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/0...l-airport-an-225-and-nato-salis-program-base/
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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...tured-the-worlds-biggest-cargo-jet-in-ukraine
No matter the outcome of today’s festivities, it might be high time for Boeing to start costing or recosting a new C-17 production line. The days of cheap, chartered civilian An-124s might be over for good. At very least, an order of 50 or so C-17s to replace the C-5 fleet seems reasonable.
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At some point in the next decade the USAF will have to think about a C-5 replacement so there may very well be a new 4 engine large transport launched at some point in the future.
 
Did the 747-8 freighter line shut down? It had a nose cargo door right?
 
Archibald said:
https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/eco...agnie-de-transport-de-marchandises-1643126802
"Airbus Beluga Transport " has just been created as an oversized cargo transportation company: by "recycling" the five A300-derived, first generation Belugas. This can haul up to 47 metric tons and, most importantly, diameter of the cargo hold is 7.1 meters - a tad more than An-124 / 225 which are around 6 meters.

Airbus did that because a brand new generation of Belugas is entering service, derived from the A330 and with a diameter extended to 8 meters.

And of course NASA is still using the Super Guppy... that Airbus used once, in their beginnings.
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Maybe the general conversation would be better suited for Aerospace?
 
http://alternathistory.com/kakim-mo...annyj-proekt-passazhirskogo-samolyota-an-218/
http://alternathistory.com/proekt-s...lnogo-passazhirskogo-samoleta-an-218-ukraina/
Very interesting to see that had the USSR not collapsed, this would have been the Soviet Unions answer to the 767. But considering that the engines that were proposed for this aircraft were suffering from serious teething problems at the time, as well as the fact that they were being prioritized for the AN-124 program, this aircraft would not have entered service until the late 1990's.
 
From post 145 to post 157 we're off topic.

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https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/the-future-of-outsized-cargo-airlift.39000/#post-521259
But never on Unbuilt Projects

Thanks for your help!
 

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