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Hi,


I know it is very difficult to know all of this company aircraft,but I hope to
get them all,who can help ?.


Of course we know all of those aircraft; IAR-11,12,13,14,15,16,21,22,23
24,27,36,37,38,39,46,47,79,80 and 81.
 
Don't assume that "we all know" these aircraft, or others for that matter, hesham. Not everyone is as knowledgeable as you are, and no-one can be specialized in everything... So instead of this, please take the time to recapitulate the ones that you know for others (like me and probably many others) who are not familiar with Romanian aviation at all!
 
Hesham: I've only just made a start on IAR (then got bogged down in post-WW2 and ICA). What I have so far, I'll post below.
 
IAR Designations Prior to 1946

IAR-1 -- IAR-10 - (??) hypothetical designations
-- NB: licensed Fleet 10G aka Fleet-IAR 10 sometimes listed simply as IAR-10

IAR-11 - aka CV-11, 1930 low-wing monoplane fighter, 1 prototype (led to IAR-12)
- IAR CV-11: As orig. flown; 1 x 600hp Lorraine-Dietrich 12Fa W-12; span 11.50 m
- IAR CV-11: 1931, re-engined with 1 x 500hp Hispano-Suiza 12Mc V-12
-- CV = Carafoli-Virmaux after designers Elie Carafoli and Lucien Virmoux

IAR-12 - 1932 low-wing monoplane fighter; impr. CV-11; 1 prototype (led to IAR-13)
- IAR-12: Pine/dural const.; 1 x 450hp Lorraine 12Eb W-12; 2 x 7.7mm Vickers mg

IAR-13 - 1933 low-wing monoplane fighter; improved IAR-12; 1 x prototype
- IAR-13: Pine/dural const.; 1 x 500hp Hispano-Suiza 12Mc V-12; span 11.70 m

IAR-14 - 1933 low-wing monoplane fighter; 2 x 7.7mm Vickers mg; 20 x built
- IAR-14: Production-standard fighter aircraft derived from IAR-13 prototype
- IAR-14: 1 x 450hp IAR-built Lorraine-Dietrich 12Eb W-12; span 11.70 m
-- IAR-14 served as AAR fighter-trainers; fighter contract won by PZL P.11f

IAR-15 - 1933 low-wing monoplane fighter; radial-engined IAR-14 evol.; x 6
- IAR-15: Prototype; 1933; mixed const. (as per IAR-14), wood prop, 1 x built
- IAR-15: 1 x 600 hp IAR 9Krse (Gnome-Rhône) 9-cyl. radial; span 11.00 m
- IAR-15: Production; 1934; 3-bladed metal prop (otherwise sim.); 5 x built

IAR-16 - 1933 low-wing monoplane fighter; further evol. of IAR-14/-15; x 1
- IAR-16: All-metal IAR-15 variant; last of the Carafoli monoplane fighters
- IAR-16: 1 x 560 hp imported Bristol Mercury IVS.2; 9-cyl.; span 11.00 m

IAR-17 - IAR-20 - (??) hypothetical designations

IAR-21 - 2-seat low-wing monoplane, experimental (later devel. into IAR-27)

IAR-22 - 1934 2-seat dual-control trainer/tourer; fabric-covered wooden const.
- IAR-22: 1 x 130 hp DH Gipsy Major 4-cyl.; span 11.53 m; max speed 193 km/h

IAR-23 - 1934 low-wing monoplane light fighter; later modified; 1 x prototype
- IAR-23: 1 x 340 hp Hispano-Suiza 9Qa 9-cylinder radial; span 12.00 m
-- IAR-23 proved seriously underpowered for the fighter role; converted
- IAR-23: YR-IAR fitted with long-distance fuselage tank as a LR touring a/c

IAR-24 - 1935 2-seat light cabin monoplane (cockpit further aft than IAR-23)
- IAR-24: 1 x 350hp Gnome-Rhône 7 Kd 7-cylinder radial engine; span 12.00 m
- IAR-24: light multi-purpose/touring a/c evol. from IAR-23, 1 x built (YR-ACI)

IAR-25 - IAR-26 - (??) hypothetical designations

IAR-27 - 1937 low-winged braced monoplane; 2-seat primary trainer, x 80*
- IAR-27: Derived from 1934 IAR-22 but with simplied all-metal construction
- IAR-27: 1 x 180 hp IAR 6 GI 6-cylinder (licensed DH Gipsy 6); span 9.10 m
-- * IAR-built prototype; 79 x SET-built series production IAR-27 (30 in 1941)

IAR-28 - IAR-35 - (??) hypothetical designations

IAR-36 - 1934 BFW (Messerschmitt) M 36 high-winged airliner for LARES; x 1
- IAR-36: Designed for Întreprinderea de Construcții Aeronautice Românești
- IAR-36: 1 x 380 hp Armstrong-Siddeley Serval 10-cyl. radial; span 15.40 m
- IAR-36: 2 crew + 6 pax; aka ICAR 36; aka ICAR M 36; aka ICAR Comercial

IAR-37 - 1937 3-seat (under canopy) light recce-bomber biplane; 50 x built
- IAR-37: Uneven-span, single-bay biplane wings; fixed & faired main u/c
- IAR-37: 1 x 870 hp IAR K14-II C32 14-cylinder radial engine; span 13.10 m
- IAR-37: Initial prod'n variant powered by G-R Mistral Major derived radial
-- Delayed engine supply led to 1st substituting IAR-38 (qv) in production
- IAR-371: single example (No.5) mod. and tested briefly as a dive-bomber

IAR-38 - 1938 interim production recce-bomber with substitute engine; x 75
- IAR-38: IAR-37 derivative; single-bay biplane wings; fixed/faired main u/c
- IAR-38: 1 x 700 hp BMW 132A single-row 9-cylinder radial; span 13.10 m
- IAR-38: Indentical to IAR-37 other than engine inst. and taller vertical tail

IAR-39 - 1939 3-seat recce-bomber biplane; improved IAR-37; 255 x built*
- IAR-39: Structurally-strengthened IAR-37 derivative; * 95 x IAR, 160 x SET
- IAR-39 : Initial prod'n variant; 1 x 930 hp IAR K.14-III C36; span 13.10 m
- IAR-39A: 1942 production transfer to SET; 1 x 960 hp IAR K.14-IV C32

IAR-40 - IAR-41 - (??) hypothetical designations

IAR-42 - (Project?) 1942 2-seat, low-wing monoplane; prob. military type
- IAR-42 : 1 x 1,050 hp IAR 1000-A 14-cylinder 2-row radial, span (??) m
-- IAR-42 design was possibly (??) related to development of IAR-47 (qv)

IAR-43 - IAR-45 - (??) hypothetical designations

IAR-46 - Possibly a light plane; no other details

IAR-47 - 1942 low-winged monoplane 2-seat recce-bomber, x 1*
- IAR-47: IAR-39 repl.; IAR-39 fuselage + wing similar to IAR-80
- IAR-47: 1 x 960 hp IAR 14K IV C32 14-cyl. radial; span 12.50 m
-- 3 x 7.92mm Rheinmetall mg (2 fixed, 1 flex); 6 x 50 kg bombs
-- * Construction of 3 prototypes begun 1940; cancelled Jan 1943
-- * 1 finished and flight-tested; destroyed 1944 by US bombing
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/iar-47.10559/

IAR-80 - Low-winged monoplane fighter; fuselage der. from licensed P.24
- IAR-80: 1937, original envis. 1, 200hp Junkers Jumo 211 (as per JRS.79B)
- IAR-80 prototype: 1939, 1 x 870hp IAR K14-III C32 twin-row 14-cyl radial
-- Prototype had 10m span, open cockpit, 2 or 4 x FN-Browning 7.92mm
- IAR-80 initial production: 1941; 930hp K14-III C36; 4 x 7.92mm; 20 built
-- April 1941, IAR-80 (No.13) fitted with 1,100hp DB 601Aa (from Bf-109E)
- IAR-80 late production: 1941, 960 hp IAR K14-IV C32; 4 x 7.92mm; x 30
-- IAR-80 had a longer fuselage (compared to prototype) & 10.52m span
- IAR-80A: Higher-compression 1,025hp IAR K14-1000A, 6 x FN-Brownings
-- IAR-80A had a reinforced rear fuselage + additional armour protection
- IAR-80B: 4 x 7.92mm FN-Browning mg + 2 x 13.2mm FN-Browning; x 50
-- IAR-80B had longer-span wings (11m); 730km range (drop tank 1030km)
-- June 1943, 1 x IAR-80B (No.326) fitted with 1,475 hp DB 605A for trials
- IAR-80C: 1942-43, as IAR-80B exc. 4 x 7.92mmFN-Browning + 2 x 20mm
-- NB: 20mm Ikarus was a licenced Oerlikon FF cannon, 50 x IAR-80C built
- IAR-80DC: Postwar conv. to 2-seat trainer (fuselage fuel tank removed)
- IAR-80M: 1944-45 IAR-80 conv. to upgrade gun arm. to IAR-81C standards
- IAR-80 (?): Unconfirmed conv. to 1,600hp engine (Gnome-Rhône 14R?)

IAR-81 - Dedicated fighter-bomber ('BoPi') version of IAR-80 series fighter
- IAR-81: fighter-bomber equiv. to IAR-80A, 6 x 7.92mm FN-Browning; x 50
-- IAR-81 initial production: Belly-rack (for 1 x 225kg bomb), 40 x built
-- IAR-81 late production: Belly-rack + 2 x wing racks (50 kg bomb), x 10
- IAR-81A: BoPi equiv. to IAR-80B, 4 x 7.92mm + 2 x 13.2mm mg, 10 built*
-- * Orig. 20 x IAR-81s ordered deliv. w/o bomb racks as IAR-80B fighters
- IAR-81B: (Project) Ikaria cannon-armed version; deliv. as IAR-80C fighters
- IAR-81C: as '81B except arm. of 4 x 7.92mm + 2 x 20mm MG151, x 150**
-- Had longer span wings (11m vs 10.52m) and more range (730 vs 695km)
-- ** NB: sources vary; some claim up to 165 x IAR-81C variants delivered
- IAR-81M: 1944-45 conv. program uprating early IAR-81 types to IAR-81C
-- IAR-81M had long-span IAR-81C wing and 4 x 7.92mm + 2 x MG151/20

IAR-371: Temporary conv. of one IAR-37 (qv) into dive-bomber for trials

IAR-471 - (Project) 1944 low-winged monoplane 2-seat divebomber
- IAR-471: Planned replacement for FARR Junkers Ju-87D Stukas
- IAR-471: 1 x 1,475 hp Daimler Benz DB 605A IV-12; span 14.00 m
- IAR-471: Retractable main u/c; largely unrelated to earlier IAR-47
-- 1 x 20 mm MG151/20 + 4 x 7.92mm mgs (2 x fixed + 1 x flexible)
-- 1 x 500 kg bomb; or 1 x 250 kg bomb + 2 x 100 kg bombs
-- 1944, 100 x IAR-471 ordered for FARR 1944; IAR couldn't deliver

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IAR Engines

IAR LD450 - Licensed-built 450hp Lorraine-Dietrich 12Eb; a 24.4 L W-12 (broad arrow)

IAR 4GI - License-built De Havilland Gipsy Major; a 130 hp air-cooled 4-cyl inline

IAR 6GI - License-built De Havilland Gipsy 6; a 200 hp air-cooled 6-cylinder inline

IAR 7K -- License-built Gnome-Rhône 7Ksd; a 420 hp air-cooled 7-cylinder radial

IAR 9K -- License-built Gnome-Rhône 9K, 600 hp air-cooled 9-cylinder radial

IAR 14K -- License-built Gnome-Rhône 14K; a 930+ hp air-cooled, 2-row, 14-cyl radial

IAR 1000 A1 - (Project) Higher compression development of the IAR 14K
- IAR-1000 A1: aka IAR K14 1000A; 1,140 hp TO, 1,040 hp sustained power

IAR DB605 - Licensed-built Daimler Benz DB 605A; for Romanian-built Bf-109Gs
 
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Thank you my dear Apophenia,


IAR-36 :it was designed for IAR company by Messerschmitt as M-36,a single
engined six seat passenger and two crew,light transport aircraft.


IAR-46 : light aircraft,no more details.
 
Thanks Hesham, I'd forgotten about the M 36! That raises some questions:

* Did the ICAR Comercial (BFW M 18b) ever receive an IAR designation?

* Why did the M 36 warrant an IAR designation when other licenced designs seem not to have received one? (Perhaps it was because the M 36 was specifically designed for ICAR?)
 
A few changes and additions to the main pre-1946 list. Here's a few details of IAR licensed production. Has anyone seen any IAR designations applied to these aircraft (as was done with licensed engines)?

IAR MS 35 - 1927 Morane-Saulnier MS 35 parasol trainer; G-R rotary; 30 x built

IAR Potez XXV - 1928 recce/bomber, 1 x 450 hp IAR LD450 (Lorraine-Dietrich 12Eb); x 250
-- NB: as light bomber, sometimes desig. Potez XXV-14; 200 kg of bombs on wing racks

Fleet 10G - 1934 biplane trainer, 1 x 130hp IAR 4GI (DH Gipsy Major), 20 built
-- NB: Romanian sources use 'F-10G' or 'IAR-10'; also built by SET & ICAR plants

PZL P-11f - 1934-35 PZL P-11c equivalent with 595 hp IAR K9 radial; 150 x built
- P-11f: Later conv. to 4 x 7.92mm mg + bomb racks; no known re-designation
-- Init. 1933 order for 50 x PZL-built P-11b as AAR Spad S 61 &Fokker DXI repl.

PZL P-24E - 1936 PZL P-24 with Romanian 940 hp IAR K14 C36 radial, 40 x built
- P-24E: Armament of 2 x 7.92mm Vickers mg + 2 x 20mm Oerlikon FF cannons

Savoia-Marchetti S.62bis - 1938 flying boat, 5 x built (by IAR and ICAR plants)

Nardi FN.305 - 1939 intermediate trainer; 1 x 200 hp IAR 6GI; 120 x built (by IAR)

Messerschmitt Bf-109G-6 - 1944 German fighter, 6-to-20 built before factory bombed
 
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Apophenia said:
PZL P-11f - 1934-35 licence-built PZL P-11c with 595hp IAR K9 radial, 150 built
- P-11f: later conv. to 4 x 7.92mm mg + bomb racks, no known re-designation
-- NB: init. 1933 order for 50 PZL-built P-11b as AAR Spad S61/Fokker DXI repl.

PZL P-24E - 1936 licenced PZL P-24 with 940hp IAR K14 C36 radial, 40 built
- P-24E: armament of 2 x 7.92mm Vickers mg + 2 x 20mm Oerlikon FF cannons


As I know,


one of those two aircraft was given the designation IAR.70,I will
check.
 
hesham said:
the Savoia-Marchetti S-79B was given the designation I.A.R.79

Thanks Hesham. Outside Wikipedia, I see those IAR-built bombers listed as 'IAR JRS-79B'.

So if IAR.79 was an actual factory designation, does that mean that JRS-79B (Jumo Romanesc Savoia 79B) was simply an AAR designation (mirroring JIS-79B for Jumo Italienesc Savioa 79B)?

Looking forward to hearing what the IAR.70 is!
 
Romanian Aircraft Industry Connected with IAR-Brasov

Before plunging on with postwar IAR designations, it's probably wise to try to untangle the various 'corporate' identities that have made up 'IAR'.

IAR Incarnations - 1925-1945

- 1925: Societate Anonima IAR, Brasov, formed with 15% Romanian state ownership*
-- sometimes written as SA IAR (Societate Anonima Industria Aeronautica Romania)
-- * Stakeholders included Societate Astra (33.3%), Lorraine (20.8%), Blériot (12.5%)

- 1938: Regia Autonoma Industria Aeronautica Romana), 100% Romanian state ownership
-- sometimes written as RA IAR (Regia Autonoma Industria Aeronautica Romania)

Multiple schemes were proposed to rationalize IAR Brasov. In 1930, Vickers and Bristol were recommended to reorganize the plant. In late 1939, a combine of industrialists and bankers (minority shareholders in the earlier SA IAR) proposed a takeover, In October 1940 the RLM proposed IAR Brasov production of Bf 109 wings and BMW engines. In March 1941, the RLM went on to suggest that IAR Brasov become a limited company under the control of Henschel.

'IAR' Incarnations - 1946-1991

IAR remained state-owned making it acceptable to Soviet authorities. Continued aircraft production was another matter. In 1946, Brasov shifted emphasis to tractor production with the IAR-22 (based on Hanomag R 40). The IAR-23 followed (IAR-22 with Russian D35 diesel) and a tracked derivative, the KD-35 (for Kirovets Diesel). These and later Soviet designs were built under a new factory name -- Uzinele Sovromtractor Orasul Stalin. In short form, this plant was refered to as SRT (accounting for the alternative IAR 23 designation, SRT 1), in less formal use, it was simply called Tractorul Brasov.

- 1950-1960: Uzina de Reparatii Material Volant - URMV-3 (Brasov)

Ad hoc aircraft MRO continued in hangars by then technically belonging to the Tractorul Brasov. In 1950, URMV-3 was establish to design and overhaul aircraft. Original aircraft designs came from Inginerul Iosif Silimon and Inginerul Radu Manicatide (both former IAR).

- 1960-1967: Intreprinderii de Constructii Aeronautice - ICA (Ghimbav)

URMV-3 Brasov was disbanded in 1960 to be replaced later by ICA at nearby Ghimbav (now site of Aeroportul International Brasov-Ghimbav). ICA-Ghimbav continued to produce sailplanes and light/agricultural aircraft to the designs of Ing Silimon (IS- and IAR- designations) and Ing Manicatide (IAR- designations).

- 1968-1991: Intreprinderea Constructii Aeronautice Brasov - ICA-Brasov
- ICA-Brasov = Aeronautical Construction Company at Brasov

ICA-Brasov was the product of a reorganization of Romanian state aero industry. In 1991, ICA-Brasov was rebranded once more, this time as the current IAR SA, Brasov.

The IAR branding is the best-known Romanian aircraft producer. Unfortunately, IAR is also rather generic and, as such, the IAR forms part of a confusing array of Romanian acronyms for aerospace organisations. Some examples are:

CIIAR - Centrul de Incercari al Industriei Aeronautice Romane (Craiova)
- CIIAR = Romanian Aeronautical Industry Testing Center (Craiova)
-- CIIAR sometimes seen as CIAR (perhaps just as a typo?)

CIIAR would be responsible for testing IAR products but is not connected directly to IAR SA in any way.

OPIAR - Organizatia Patronala din Industria Aeronautica Romana
- OPIAR = Romanian Aeronautical Industry Employers Organization

OPIAR is an aerospace industry umbrella association of aircraft manufacturers and research groups. IAR SA is a member of OPIAR but there is no other connection

Okay, back to actual designations ... ;)
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Post-World War II Romania IAR Designations

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Aberrant Non-Sequential IAR Designations

IAR AH-1RO Dracula - [Project] proposed licenced Bell AH-1W Cobra attack helicopter
- IAR Dracula: Bell Textron to buy state in IAR, Turbomecanica to licence T700
-- May 1997 contract for 96 AH-1RO Dracula for Romanian MoD, cancelled 1999

IAR-S - (Project) 1980s supersonic fighter concepts; evolved from IAR-101 studies
- IAR-S: Wind tunnel models tested in two layouts (both as single- and 2-seaters)
-- Fighter: single-engine, single-fin; Multi-Role Fighter: twin-engined, twin-finned

IAR-T - UAV/UAS; high-winged and T-tailed; 1 x tractor 4.1 hp two-stroke engine
- IAR-T: Development begun 1997, in service by 2003, composite structure

IAR-2000 - (Project) High-manoeuvrability fighter study (Sorin A Crasmarelu)

IAR-111 - (Project) 2011 supersonic carrier aircraft for air-launched ARCA rocket
- IAR-111: 'IAR' for marketing purposes, rebranded E-111 (E = Experimental)
-- ARCA Haas II rocket was aimed at the Google Lunar X Prize competition
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/th...ssociation-launch-vehicles.11350/#post-120510

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Post-WWII Non-Sequential IAR Designations

Non-Sequential Post-WWII IAR Designations


Many earlier designs attributed to ICA Brasov are being redesignated with IAR prefixes.

IAR-28MA - 1982 motor-glider derived from the IS-28M2
- IAR-28MA: 1 x 80hp Limbach L.2000 E01 HO4, span (??) m
- IAR-28MA: Non-sequential designation deriv. from IS-28M

IAR-34 - 199(?) Redesignation of IS-28M1 Motor Lark

IAR-35 - 1990 Acro metal single-seat glider; low-tail; span 12.00 m

IAR-37 - 199(?) Light aircraft with a ski-type undercarriage

IAR-46 - 1993 lightplane prototype based on the IS-28M2
- IAR-46 : 1 x 80 hp Rotax 912 F3/A3 HO4; span (??)m
- IAR-46 : Prototypes built but lack of funding limits production
- IAR-46S: (Sport) Club variant for glider towing (?)

NB: the above aircraft were all designed by Iosif Silimon. A number of gliders and light aircraft formerly considered ICA types are now marketed as IAR IS-xx (see separate entry)

IAR-52 - sometimes mis-applied to Aerostar-built Yak-52s, aka Iak-52 series

NB: IAR-109 Swift and IAR-111 are probably non-sequential designations as well.
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Post-WWII Sequential IAR Designations

Sequential Post-WWII IAR Designations


IAR-90 -- (Project) 199(?) high-wing. T-tail, twin-engined bizjet
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/romanian-aircraft-projects.39196/#post-527123

IAR-91 -- (Project) high-winged, twin-engined attack a/c, repl. by IAR-93

IAR-92 --(Project) IAR-91 deriv. described as supersonic fighter

IAR 93 -- Vultur single-seat, twin-engined attack/recce aircraft
- YUROM: 1970 project start as joint Romanian (IAR)/Yugoslav (Soko) project
-- Yugoslav version is J-22 Orao (single-seat) and NJ-22 (two-seat)
- IAR-93A: non-afterburning R-R Viper Mk 632-41, flown 1981, 36 IAR-93A built
- IAR-93B: afterburning R-R Viper Mk 632-47, flown 19851, 165 IAR-93B built
-- NB: IAR-93A/B designations cover both single and two-seat versions of each type

IAR-94 -- (??)

IAR-95 -- (Project) late '70s, supersonic lightweight fighter, 1 x R-R Spey turbofan
- IAR-95: resembled F-16 w/ side intakes, one variant with twin tails, cancelled 1981
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,107.msg9693.html

IAR-95ME -- (Project) unrelated 1980s low-winged 2-seat technology demonstrator
IAR-95ME: 1 x Tumansky R-29-300, 9.3 m span, cancelled for cost reasons in 1988

IAR-96 - IAR-98 (??) no details

IAR 99 -- Soim, 'LIFT' (for MiG-21 Lancer), 1 x 4000 lb/st Viper Mk632-41M
- IAR-99: initial production model, 22 built [aka IAR-99A ??]
- IAR-99B: Poss. initial desig. for IAR-93 2-seater trainer variant, see reply #31
- IAR-99 JPATS: 1990 upgrade, 2 x a/c, 1-piece canopies + US avionics
- IAR-109: Swift, 1992 upgrade prototype (see below)
- IAR-99C: 1998 fleet-wide upgrade program, only 12 to be completed

IAR-100 - (??)

IAR-101 - (Project) early '80s supersonic fighter (layout sim. to early IAR-95)
- IAR-101: led to more advanced fighter project, IAR-S (qv)
- IAR-101: (Project) duplicate designation for turboprop trainer (below)

IAR-101 - (Project) late '90s 2-seat tandem turboprop trainer
- IAR-101: EMB-312 Tucano analogue, no details
- IAR-101: 1 x (??) shp (??)* turboprop engine, span (??) m
-- * Based on IAR-503A project & the IAR-825TP, prob. PT6A
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/romanian-aircraft-projects.39196/

IAR-102 - IAR-108 - (??) no details

IAR-109 - Swift, 1992 IAR/IAI Lahav IAR-99 Soim upgrade, 1 prototype conv.
- IAR-109: HOTAS and avionics/display upgrades, program ended 1994
-- * 1 x prototype conv. of IAR-99 airframe, s/n 7003/ a/c #715

IAR-109 - (Project) late-'90s Phoenix twin-engined transport
- IAR-109: High-winged, pod-fuselage, twin-boomed, rear loading
- IAR-109: 2 x (??) engines, span (??) m
- IAR-109: Utility transport, retractable undercarriage
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/romanian-aircraft-projects.39196/

IAR-110 - (??)

IAR-111 - (Project) 2011 rebranded E-111 (not part of this numbering sequence)

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Romanian IAR Helicopter Designations

IAR 300 Series - IAR/ICA Brasov Licence-Built Helicopter Designations


Thus far, IAR helicopter designations have simply re-used Aérospatiale type numbers. The exception is the unbuilt Dracula project which simply tacked 'RO' onto the US military designation AH-1 for a proposed licenced Bell Cobra.

IAR-316B - 1971 Brasov-produced Aérospatiale SA 316B Alouette III, 230-250 built
- IAR-316B Airfox: attack helicopter deriv., aka IAR-317 or sometimes IAR-319
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2375.msg19942.html

IAR-317 - 1984 Airfox tandem 2-seat attack helicopter deriv. of IAR-316B
- IAR-317: prototype built, project cancelled by Ceausescu government, 1985
-- aka ICA-Brasov IAR-317, mis-ident. as 'IAR-316 Airfox' or 'IAR-319 Airfox'
-- Reports (mid '90s) of attempts to revive IAR-317 project for Rom military

IAR-318 - (Project) 198? attack helicopter, see reply #30
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/iar-318-attack-helicopter-project.27068/

IAR-319 - desig. sometimes mis-applied by western sources to Airfox attack helo

IAR-330 - Puma, licenced Aérospatiale SA.330 Puma medium helicopter, 163 built
- IAR-330L Puma: 1975 licenced production, WarPac armament
- IAR-330 'Gunship': [Project?] prob. just early ref. to SOCAT upgrade
- IAR 330L SOCAT: 1999-2005 upgrade (24 a/c), western avionics and armament
-- Sistem Optronic de Cercetare si Anti-Tanc (Optronic System Research & AT)
- IAR 330M: 2005 'NATO Puma' transport, IAR-330L uprade, SOCAT avionics
- IAR 330 Naval: 2007 shipboard SOCAT equiv. (floatation gear, etc.)

Aberrant IAR Helicopter Designation

IAR AH-1RO Dracula - [Project] proposed licenced Bell AH-1W Cobra attack helicopter
- IAR Dracula: Bell Textron to buy state in IAR, Turbomecanica to licence T700
-- May 1997 contract for 96 AH-1RO Dracula for Romanian MoD, cancelled 1999

IAR/ICA Brasov Helicopter Development Lacking Romanian Designation

Kamov Ka-126 - no obvious Romanian desig. for locally-assembled 'Hoodlum-B'
-- Ka-126: first Rom example flown 1988, 1 x 720shp OMKB Mars TVD-100 turboshaft

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IAR 500 & 700 Series Aircraft Designations

IAR 500 Series - IAR/ICA Brasov Fixed-Wing Aircraft Designations


IAR-501 - (Project) 1995 2-seat low-wing primary trainer *
- IAR-501: Design begun 1995, all-metal, Jodel-like wing plan
- IAR-501: 1 x 180 hp Lycoming AEIO-360-B1F, span 8.20 m
-- * Design staff list as acrobatic light a/c., JAWA as a light STOL a/c

IAR-502 - (??)

IAR-503 - (Project) Turboprop military trainer (YAK-52 repl.)
- IAR-503A: 1 x P&WC PT6A-25 turboprop, span (??) m
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IAR 700 Series - IAR/ICA Brasov Fixed-Wing Project Designations

IAR-701 - 198(?) Cargo development of Rombac (BAC) 1-11, x 1
- IAR-701: 10th Rombac 1-11 airframe completed as cargo a/c

IAR-702 - IAR-704 - (??)

IAR-705 - (Project) late 1980s twin-turboprop regional transport aircraft
- IAR-705: 40 pax high-wing, T-tailed airliner to replace TAROM An-24 fleet
- IAR-705-30: to be powered by twin Pratt & Whitney Canada PW119s
- IAR-705-50: to be powered by twin Pratt & Whitney Canada PW123s
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/inav-aircraft.1351/#post-527129
-- NB: another Romaero project was studying re-engining An-26s with PW127s

IAR-706 - (??)

IAR-707 - (Project) Single-turboprop multi-purpose transport a/c
- IAR-707: 1 x 850 hp P&WC PT6A-42 turboprop, span (??) m
- IAR-707: intended as a RomAF Antonov An-2 replacement

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IAR 800 Series Aircraft Designations

IAR 800 Series - IAR/ICA Brasov Fixed-Wing Aircraft Designations


IAR-800 - IAR-810 - (??)

IAR-811 - 1949 2-seat cabin monoplane, design begun 1944
- IAR-811: First post-WW2 Romanian-produced aircraft
- IAR-811: 1 x 60 hp Train 6T 6-cylinder inline, span 10.00 m

IAR-812 - (Project) 194(?) trainer, cancelled at early stage
- IAR-812: No sufficiently powerful engine then available

IAR-813 - 1950 2-seat side-by-side trainer/sports a/c, x 80
- IAR-813: IAR-811 evolution, higher powered, bubble canopy
- IAR-813: 1 x 105 hp Walter Minor 4-III, span 10.00 m
- IAR-813: Radu Manicatide design to replace existing a/c*
-- * IAR-27, Fleet Model 10G, and Nardi FN 305 trainers

IAR-814 - 1953 3-seat monoplane multi-purpose transport, x 10*
- IAR-814: For light transport, pilot trainer, or ambulance
- IAR-814: 2 x 160 hp Walter Minor 6-III, span 14.00 m
-- Design begun 1951, 2 x prototypes + production MR-2 model
- MR-2 : Production version, for 'Manicatide, Radu 2', x 8
-- * Some sources say 2 x prototypes, 10 x production MR-2s

IAR-815 - (Project) 1951 heavy transport glider, prototype ordered*
- IAR-815: Prototype order cancelled at an early stage
-- * Romaero 1951-2008, Constantin Dinischiotu, Vremea, 2019

IAR-816 - (Project) 1951(?) single-seater, no details
- IAR-816: Project cancelled at an early stage

IAR-817 - 1955 high-wing monoplane light multi-purpose a/c, x 30*
- IAR-817 : Tricycle u/c with rear-loading pod-and-boom fuselage
- IAR-817 : 1 x 160 hp Walter Minor 6-III, span 12.60 m
- IAR-817 : Mixed constr., fabric-covered wood wing/steel-tube fuselage
-- Intended as ag a/c, to parachute training, mailplane, ambulance
- IAR-817S: (Sanitar) 1957 medevac, 1 x stretcher, 1 x seated
-- * Some sources list 60+ (??)

IAR-818 - 1960 high-wing monoplane light multi-purpose a/c, x 82*
- IAR-818 : IAR-817 dev., higher power engine, wing endplates
- IAR-818 : 1 x 170 hp Walter M-337 6-cylinder, span 12.80 m
- IAR-818H: (Hidro), 1964 twin-float variant of IAR-817**
-- * Others say as high as x 104 (Poss. x 105 with c/n 18 duplicated)
-- ** c/n 28 YR-AVN, later on wheels with Aviasan (medevac)
-- https://www.airliners.net/photo/Aviasan/IAR-IAR-818H/1819661

IAR-819 - (Project) 1960(?) twin-engined concept, not pursued

IAR-820 - (??)

IAR-821 - low-wing cantilever monoplane agricultural a/c, 1 x 300hp AI-14RF
- IAR-821: 1967 single seat ag-plane, 800 litre chemical tank, 12.8m span
- IAR-821B: 1969 tandem 2-seat trainer (2nd seat replaced fuselage tank)

IAR-822 - 1971 low-wing cantilever monoplane agricultural plane, x ~30
- IAR-822 : Production started 1973,, re-engined/upgraded IAR-821, 20 built
- IAR-822: 1 x 290 hp Lycoming IO-540-G1-D5 HO6 engine, span 12.80 m
- IAR-822B: 1973 tandem 2-seat trainer version, limited prod'n 1973-1974-
- IAR-826: (qv)1973 all-metal version of IAR-822, single-seat ag-plane,

IAR-823 - 1973 low-wing cabin monoplane military or civil trainer, x 166
- IAR-823: 1 x 290 hp Lycoming IO-540-G1-D5 HO6 engine, span 10.00 m
- IAR-823: 5 seats, side-by-side student/instructor, retractable tricycle u/c
- IAR-823: 166 built in 1974-83 towards military & civil flying club orders

IAR-824 - 1971 high-winged cantilever monoplane 6-seat cabin a/c, x 10
- IAR-824: Sim. layout to IAR-818 but conventional fuselage + US engine
- IAR-824: 1 x 290hp Lycoming IO-540 G1D5 HO6 engine, span 12.40 m
- IAR-824: Metal constr., fixed u/c (both tricycle and 'taildragger' fitted)
-- aka ICA IS-24 (after Iosif Silimon), orig. desig. for ICA-Brasoc design

IAR-825 - 1982 Triumf turboprop trainer, derived from IAR-823, x 1
- IAR-825: aka IAR-825TP Triumf (TP = turboprop), prototype YR-IGB
- IAR-825: 1 x 680 shp P&WC PT6A-15AG turboprop, span 10.30 m
- IAR-825: (ProjectP Prod. vers. with alt. 657 shp Walter M 601D-11*
-- * some sources (eg World Aircraft Industry) list M-601B as option

IAR-826 - 1973 ag-plane, all-metal IAR-822 deriv., 13 built 1973-1974

IAR-827 - 1976 low-winged cantilever monoplane ag-plane, 1200 L tank, x 17
- IAR-827 : 1976 Lycoming-powered prototype, 1 x YR-MGA
- IAR-827 : 1 x 400hp Lycoming IO-720-DA1B flat-8 engine, span 14.00 m
- IAR-827A: Production variant w/ Polish radial engine, in prod. until 1981
- IAR-827A: 1 x 600 hp PZL-3S 7-cyl. radial (Ivchenko AI-16), span 14.00 m
- IAR-827TP: 1981 680hp PT6A-15AG turboprop, 1 conv. (prototype YR-MGA)

IAR-828 - re-designation of prototype IAR-827TP turboprop conversion (above)
- IAR-828: (Project) production vers. with optional PT6A or Walter 601 engine

IAR-829 - (??)

IAR-830 - (??)

IAR-831 - 1983 Pelican tandem 2-seat piston-engined trainer, x 1
- IAR-831: aka ICA IAR-831, IAR-825TP derivative, prototype YR-IGA
- IAR-831: 1 x 290hp Lycoming IO-540 G1D5 HO6 engine, span 10.00 m
-- Combined IAR-825TP Triumf tandem-seat airframe w/ IAR-823 powerplant
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Thanks Hesham, I've added the IAR-815 as a transport project.

IAR-T UAV was listed under 'Aberrant Non-Sequential IAR Designations'. I've added the IAR-2000 to the same section. http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,13412.msg133105.html#msg133105

IAR-92 still seems slippery to me but I've made the listing firmer in any case.

Thus far, ECO 100 remains an in-house project by INCAS' Aircraft Design Group. I suppose, if this light plane is productionized, we'll see an IAR designation applied later for marketing purposes.
 
Re: IAR 800 Series Aircraft Designations

Apophenia said:
IAR-831 - Pelican, 1985 piston-engined version of IAR-825TP, 1 built (YR-IGA)
- IAR-831: aka ICA IAR-831, 1 x 290hp Lycoming IO-540 G1D5 flat-six
-- combines IAR-823 powerplant with IAR-825TP Triumf tandem-seat airframe
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More on the IAR 831:
The prototype was produced in 1983 and presented at the Paris Air Show the same year, registered YR-IGA.
This aircraft still exist, stored at IAR Brasov (photos taken in 2002)

Sources:
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1983/1983%20-%201203.html?search=IAR%20831
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1983/1983%20-%201060.html?search=IAR%20831
 

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Dear Apophenia,
I read with great interest your extensive article. This prompted me to following questions.
Can you identify the tricycle gear/T-tail aircraft (see photo). Has it anything to do with the IAR-34 or IAR-39?
You mention that IAR-34 is new designation for the IS-28M2. Please see attached photo of IAR-34 and this has a central main wheel. The IS-28M2 in my opinion has a conventional gear. Can it be that IAR-34 was IS-28M1 and not M2?
Regards, Walter
 

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walter: Ack! You're quite right. The IAR-34 was the IS-28M1 and not IS-28M2!

Sorry, I can't help with identifying your T-tailed light plane.
 
Dear Apophenia,
on the subject of the IAR-827 ag-plane I noted (a long time ago) the names IRMA Bucharest and IAv Bucharest and on the IAR-821-826 series and IAR-817/818 also ICRMA and IRMA.
Were these companies/organisations involved in the production or in the design of these aircraft?
Do you have an idea why YR-MDA was designated as an IAR-826C ?


Thanks, Walter
 
Walter: AFAIK, the postwar Radu Manicatide designs began at IMFCA - yes, I know, more obscure Romanian acronyms! As those acronyms reveal, ICRMA/IRMA were repair facilities with some production capability for outside designs.

IAv was an actual airframe producer but, again AFAIK, with limited in-house design ability.

I've seen that IAR-826C designation on Air Britain but nowhere else. It seems to be applied only to the prototype (although a simple "IAR-826" is painted on YR-MDA's cowling). The question is: was IAR-826C an official designation? :-\
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IMFCA = Institutul de Mecanica Fluidelor Cercetari Aerospatiale
-- Institute for Fluid Mechanics and Aerospace Manufacturing

ICRMA = Întreprinderea de Constructii si Reparatii Materiale Aeronautice
-- Enterprise for the Construction and Repair of Aeronautical Materials

IRMA Bucureşti = Întreprinderea de Reparatii Materiale Aeronautice - Bucureşti
-- Enterprise for the Repair of Aeronautical Material (rebranded as Romaero, 1990)

IAv = Întreprinderea de Avioane (IAvB = Întreprinderea de Avioane - Bucureşti)
- Prev. URA (Uzina de Reparatii Avioane), IRAv (Întreprinderea de Reparatii Avioane)
-- Aircraft Enterprise (rebranded as Aerostar, 1991)

IRMA Bucuresti = Întreprinderea de Avioane - Bucureşti
-- Aircraft Enterprise (rebranded as Aerostar, 1991)
 
Hi,

IAR-815 was not a transport aircraft,but a glider,maybe remained a Project;

http://www.roaf.ro/ro/cer_senin/arhiva/2002/Nr.6.pdf
 
- IAR-99B: [??]
May have been the initial cover designation for the dedicated two seater trainer version of the IAR-93, which was also sometimes simply referred to as IAR-99 in western sources prior to the public revelation of the IAR-99 as being instead the designation for the MiG-21 upgrade program in late 1989. It is also entirely possible that that was actually originally the real designation of the trainer early in development and pre-production before it was decided to reallocate it to the upgraded MiG-21 instead (for later export marketing purposes perhaps?).
 
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- IAR-99B: [??]
May have been the initial cover designation for the dedicated two seater trainer version of the IAR-93, which was also sometimes simply referred to as IAR-99 in western sources prior to the public revelation of the IAR-99 as being instead the designation for the MiG-21 upgrade program in late 1989. It is also entirely possible that it was actually originally the real designation of the trainer early in development and pre-production before it was decided to reallocate it to the upgraded MiG-21 instead (for later export marketing purposes perhaps?).
Late 80s Romania had a lot of plans for upgrading their older equipment. I remember reading on a Romanian-language forum that they planned on putting laser range finders on their T-34s!
 
From AE # 56.
 

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From AE 74,

here is a small info about IAR-815,IAR-816 & IAR-819.
 

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Thanks hesham. I've revised the IAR-8xx series entries. I've also added the 'duplicate' designation IAR-101 and IAR-109 which have mentioned elsewhere.
 
Dear Apophenia,

you forgot IAR-816.

Also IAR-701 and IAR-812,with IAR-37 (new design).
 

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Via dear friend,

IAR-42 was a two-seat low-wing monoplane of 1942,powered by one IAR-1000 A engine,but there is no details for its function,strong feeling it was a military aircraft,
but maybe remained a project only ?!.
 

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