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Hi,

this Canadian company was formed in 1942,produced from Model 1 to 5 aircraft as in the text,and here is a
two little known Projects,Model 7 & 9.

Canadian Aircraft Since 1909

 

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Please note that Victory Aircraft also built Avro Anson, twin-engined trainers under license. Anson Mark V had distinctive molded plywood fuselages along with Pratt & Whitney R-985 radial engines.
During World War 2 an RAF engineering officer complained that a Canadian-built Lancaster X was not built to spec. Further research revealed that it had been built exactly according to an earlier set of drawings! Slow flow of drawings and tools to shadow factories was a recurring complaint during WW2.
Finally, Victory Aircraft was more of a consortium than a single corporation. Victory Aircraft coordinated the assembly of various sub-components made by a dozen (?) shadow factories in Ontario.
 
Thank you my dear Riggerrob,

and the Avro Anson was one of early five Models.
 

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Some of the projects Victory Aircraft worked on came as a result of the deliberations of an interdepartmental committee on air transport policy / committee on post-war aircraft manufacturing, in 1943.

A sub-committee recommended the development of a fast, powerful and, if possible, pressurised four-engine long-range transport for the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF), Trans-Canada Air Lines (TCA) and Canadian Pacific Airlines, a subsidiary of a Canadian transport giant, Canadian Pacific Railway. Thanks to the support of Ralph Pickard Bell, director general of aeronautical production at the Department of Munitions and Supply, Victory Aircraft was awarded the contract to develop this aircraft, the Victory 4.

Realising the importance of having an experienced project manager, the Department of Munitions and Supply asked A.V. Roe, whose Lancaster bomber was being produced by Victory Aircraft, to release one of its best engineers. The British aircraft maker politely refused, citing the importance of its own projects. Bell was both surprised and disappointed. Victory Aircraft thus began designing the new airliner using its own resources. An Australian air carrier, Australian National Airways, was quick to take an interest in the Canadian airliner project. Some even proposed that the development of this aircraft become a binational project. Concerned above all with the survival of the Canadian aircraft industry, Bell politely refused to go down this path.

Even before the end of the summer of 1943, however, the interdepartmental committee questioned the need to develop a Canadian long-range airliner. The maiden flight of the first example of an airliner version of the Canadian-made Lancaster, in September 1943, had impressed the Department of Munitions and Supply. In early October, it asked Victory Aircraft to design an airliner using as many Lancaster components as possible. This Victory 5 would have to be equipped with a new, more spacious fuselage with a pressurized cabin, however. The aircraft manufacturer complies but recommended that any order go to the Victory 4, which was far superior to the Victory 5.

In November 1943, the Department of Munitions and Supply authorised Victory Aircraft to resume development of the Victory 4, now redesignated Victory 7. The aircraft manufacturer could also undertake the design of a derivative intended for North American routes, the Victory 9.

At this point in the story, it might prove useful to go back to 1942. Realising the importance of air transport during and after the war, the minister of Munitions and Supply, Clarence Decatur Howe wanted to replace the Lancaster airliners of the Canadian Government Trans-Atlantic Air Service (CGTAS) operated by TCA as soon as possible. A.V. Roe having developed a transport version of the Lancaster, the York, the Department of Munitions and Supply asked Victory Aircraft, in the fall of 1942, to manufacture 50 such aircraft modified to fit TCA's requirements.

The airline obtained the cancellation of the contract well before a prototype could be completed, however. The first transatlantic flights made by the Lancasters of the CGTAS had indeed revealed a strong tendency to icing. TCA also realised that the cabin of the York could be not pressurised, a significant shortcoming for the postwar civilian market. Mind you, the RCAF was not showing much interest in the York either.

That said, Victory Aircraft got the permission to complete a single York. Given the priority given to the production of Lancasters, this York did not fly until November 1944. It was delivered to the Royal Air Force in January 1945.

Increasingly busy with the early stages of the York project project, and very busy producing Lancasters, Victory Aircraft abandoned the Victory 7 and 9 around January 1944.

By then, the Department of Munitions and Supply was considered an option other than designing a Canadian airliner. It might after all be simpler and cheaper to build an American airliner under license? And so it was that Douglas Aircraft granted a license to produce the DC-4 to the Canadian government around February-April 1944.
 
Victory Aircraft was also a key player in a Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) project. indeed, a specification for a multirole trainer (bombing and gunnery, navigation, and radar and radio) was issued in July 1944. Federal Aircraft Limited, the Crown corporation which was overseeing the production program for the Avro Anson twin-engine advanced trainer, was to oversee and coordinate the new project. A dozen Canadian aircraft manufacturers receive the specification in November. Realising that it was excluded from the competition, Victory Aircraft protested - and received permission to submit a proposal. An RCAF team began to examine the proposals around April 1945. It concluded that none of them met the requirements of the specification which, one must admit, were rather unrealistic.

Representatives from the RCAF, the Department of Transport, Federal Aircraft and five aircraft manufacturers, including Victory Aircraft, all of them increasingly frustrated it was said, met in July 1945 to define the way forward. The RCAF agreed to increase the power and weight of the future twin-engine trainer. Federal Aircraft would examine the revised specification and send it to the two aircraft manufacturers best able to satisfy it.

Victory Aircraft was to be excluded from this second competition. The Minister of Munitions and Supply and Minister of Reconstruction, the very influential Clarence Decatur Howe, protested. Indeed, he has just announced the sale of the Victory Aircraft to A.V. Roe (Avro). Victory Aircraft had to participate in the competition given the upcoming creation of a design team by Avro, a company that could not be more experienced. The Minister of National Defence for Air, Colin William George Gibson, supported his cabinet colleague. A.V. Roe Canada (Avro Canada), Fairchild Aircraft and Noorduyn Aviation received the revised specification in September 1945.

Noorduyn Aviation having decided to withdraw from the project shortly after submitting its proposal, the Department of Reconstruction and Supplies, born of the merger of the Departments of Munitions and Supplies and of Reconstruction, in December 1945, authorised Avro Canada and Fairchild Aircraft to manufacture a full-scale model of their project around January 1946. A major overhaul of the weaponry requested by the RCAF changed the situation. Fairchild Aircraft informed the latter that these modifications would mean that the aircraft will no longer be able to meet the requirements of the specification. The cost of the advanced twin-engine training project, intended to fulfill three distinct functions (bombing and navigation, radio, and gunnery), would also seriously increase. Indeed, the estimate submitted by Avro Canada around July 1946 to cover the cost of the manufacture prototypes of prototypes of these three versions was so high that the Department of Reconstruction and Supplies excluded the company from the competition.

Fairchild Aircraft and the department continuing to meet until the fall of 1946. The aircraft manufacturer expressed some doubts as to the relevance of the RCAF's specification. In turn, the various solutions it proposed did not arouse the enthusiasm of the RCAF. The talks were at an impasse. In December 1946, after a brief review, the RCAF concluded that Douglas Dakota transport aircraft could meet a good part of its advanced training needs. The Department of Reconstruction and Supplies cancelled Fairchild Aircraft's contract in January 1947 before any prototype could be completed.
 
My dear Fortrena,

I think you solve it,we can say for its Models;

1- Avro Anson
2- Avro Lancaster MK X
3- Avro Lancastrain
4- as you mentioned
5- as you mentioned
6- Avro Lincoln MK XV
7- as I mentioned
8- Avro York C.1
9- as I mentioned

right ?.
 
As the email above states, Victory did not become involved before November 1944 (1st competition) and September 1945 (2nd competition).
 

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