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We still love the early concepts;


 

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Hi,


here is a delta body space shuttle orbiter from Lockheed.


http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/3.60203
 

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Good closeups of the classic Feb 10, 1947 nationally run Sacramento Bee article on moon flight. As run in the Milwaukee Journal:https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19470210&id=VB0aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=BSUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3021,4282102&hl=en
 

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is that a booster under that shuttle??
After that extra trolley launch speed , do you still need a booster???
 

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Check the linked article and its continuation here:


Yes, it's a two-stage vehicle (2.5 counting the trolley?) with both flying stages being reusable horizontal landing vehicles. The trolley gets the combined vehicle to flying speed (guessing 200 knots or so) but there's still a long way to go from there to space so the booster gets it part of the way and it stages so the smaller vehicle can make orbit.
 

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I've always wondered about the Lockheed Star Clipper. Seems as if it was grossly optimistic, or then payload would have been very small. It would have had to lug all the takeoff engines to orbit. Think Space Shuttle without the boosters and many times the engines. An SSME weighs about 3.5 t and you would have to enlarge the tank... I'm having trouble seeing how it could work without shedding engines on the way.
 

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Bill S said:
A couple of NASA Shuttle Low Speed Wind Tunnel tests at LTV
VAHF images
very interesting, they study low speed aerodynamics during landing
note on first picture the model has canard wings near cockpit.
 

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Boxman said:
Interesting image among those recently posted by the San Diego Air & Space Museum (SDASM) on their Flickr photostream. It appears to be a re-purposing of their VSX (S-3) proposal mock-up as a nominal "Space Shuttle" cockpit.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/29523927802/

Here's a link to the Convair VSX images in the same photostream for comparison:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=interestingness-desc&safe_search=1&text=vsxproposal&view_all=1
 

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San Diego Air & Space Museum (SDASM) has also recently posted additional photos of the Convair/General Dynamics B9U fly-back booster cockpit mock-up that was examined by the likes of Buzz Aldrin, Jim Lovell, Hank Hartsfield, Thomas Stafford, Gordon Fullerton, and others. Spare for Fullerton and Hartsfield (who recently passed), it would be interesting to learn from any of the others what their thoughts were about the B9U concept.

Here's a link to the B9U mock-up photos and illustrations posted within the SDASM's collection at Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc&safe_search=1&tags=b9u&user_id=49487266%40N07&view_all=1

And here are some of the B9U-related photos recently posted:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/29012961263/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/29555929101/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/29523147702/
 

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Seller states this is a hypersonic passenger jet but it looks more like an early shuttle design to me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aviation-collectibles-/122247728829?hash=item1c76884ebd:g:BCkAAOSwB09YPek8
 

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That earlier Shuttle Design from Rockwell/Convair

 

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We still like this stuff.

Flugzeuge. 1000 Maschinen aus aller Welt mit sämtlichen technischen Daten. Vom ersten Fluggerät bis zum Überschalljet
 

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Did we send this pictures before ?.

http://spaceflighthistory.blogspot.com.eg/2017/02/
 

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Nice model pictures, Hesham, sure was a sport-looking concept.
 

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Model of Lockheed Space Shuttle found on eBay.

Source:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-Proposed-NASA-Space-Shuttle-Design-Lockheed-Manufacturers-Desk-Model-Lot-5/112564344777?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D5d94738772894c619483720727e1e73e%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D112564344777&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042
 

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Artist's impression of Grumman/Boeing H-33 space shuttle concept photo found on eBay.

Source:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPACE-SHUTTLE-Original-NASA-8x10-Press-Photo-Early-Artist-Concept-/202059976722?hash=item2f0bb69012:g:lskAAOSw4P1ZwYJq
 

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Great find. Thanks.
 

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Triton said:
Artist's impression of Grumman/Boeing H-33 space shuttle concept photo found on eBay.

Source:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPACE-SHUTTLE-Original-NASA-8x10-Press-Photo-Early-Artist-Concept-/202059976722?hash=item2f0bb69012:g:lskAAOSw4P1ZwYJq
My dear Jemiba,

there is a better topic,specially for H-33,here;

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8626.msg204697.html#msg204697
 
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