Teledyne Ryan VTOL/VSTOL/STOL projects (NOT liftfan/Fan-In-Wing)

[EEP1A]

Ryan VATOL, 1950s

Source:
Bernard Lindenbaum, V-STOL Concepts and Developed Aircraft Volume 1 - A Historical Report (1940-1986)

Ryan VTOL fighter project of the late 1950's.
From Japanese Magazine "The Aviation Magazine" September 1958.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

What was that VTOL army project to Ryan ?.

 

[Firefly 2]

Hi,

What was that VTOL army project to Ryan ?.

This couldn't be true VTOL, really. Only extremely short take of and landing. Was this the system that enabled the fabled and mythical MC130 that was supposed to be used in the operation to free the American hostages in Iran back in the 80's?

 

[Jemiba]

"This couldn't be true VTOL, really."
The Ryan 92 VZ-3 Vertiplane, the forerunner of this concept, suffered
from not having enough thrust (as many others), but I haven't heard,
that the concept itself wouldn't enable "real" VTOL. Of course, if it's a
economical way to achieve VTOL and maybe even with a usable payload
is a different question ... (see http://www.vstol.org/, "History
Overview Brief" )

 

[jackehammond]

".. some braking rockets "

It's OT here, so I'll post it in the "early secret projects" section, what can be achieved
with braking rockets ... at least theoretically .... ;D

Dear Member,

Reduce the landing distance. The Germans had two rockets in the nose for this purpose. It is a drastic and dangerous solution though I would think.

Jack E. Hammond

 

[yasotay]

".. some braking rockets "

It's OT here, so I'll post it in the "early secret projects" section, what can be achieved
with braking rockets ... at least theoretically .... ;D

Dear Member,

Reduce the landing distance. The Germans had two rockets in the nose for this purpose. It is a drastic and dangerous solution though I would think.

Jack E. Hammond

It was for the YMC-130H as well. During the test flights the forward facing JATO were fired to early and the aircraft stopped mid-air and in essence fell to the runway, breaking the wing root and destroying the aircraft. Fortunately I believe all of the crew escaped from the ensuing fire.

 

[Charles Gray]

My question about this design is wouldn't the wing badly interfere with the downwash from the rotor, making it harder to control?

Also, I've looked all over the place and I've found no reference to Ryan designing anything of this sort, so if anyone could find more information, I'd be very happy.

 

[Jemiba]

The interference between wing and rotor is a problem for many compound
helicopters and VTOL designs, in this special case, I think, it wouldn't have
been much worse, than, say, for the Bell UH-1B high-speed research compound
from 1969. It's a kind of trade-off between hover performance and maximum
speed.

In May this year we had this design here, too, (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2140.msg16218.html#msg16218),
unfortunately without further information .

 

[Triton]

Photograph of Ryan "Vertiplane" concept from 1956 found on eBay.

[link no longer active]

Seller's description:

A fabulous (approx. 8" X 10") vintage original factory B&W Photograph of a 1956 Ryan "VERTIPLANE" concept Photo. Photograph has a Associated Press press release dated Jun 11, 1956 on back and is part of either my own collection or of other aviation buff's collections that I'm selling and is in VERY GOOD condition as seen in the scan.

 

[Stargazer]

Artist's impression of Ryan Aircraft Number: 2108 circa 1964.

Given the time and what we know of Ryan's designation system, I really wonder if this Model "2108" isn't a typo for "210B".

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Greetings All -

In a meeting presentation/report I found at the Vought Archives, there were three Teledyne designs referenced I had not seen before. Anyone have info on these?

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[aim9xray]

What was the report date?

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Hi Craig -

No date anywhere in the report (actually, probably a printed copy of overhead projector slides) but the V-521 is shown in the report. The opening slide is titled "Supersonic VTOL Fighter Concepts".

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

That makes it 1971 or later. Probably around the time of the VFA studies.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

please note this Ryan Vertiplane differs in its shape from earlier one,it had a twin boom configuration
and could carry a passengers,with high rear wing.

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/coming-rooftop-airports/

 

[hesham]

Also from my dear Rolf's discovering;

SDASM Archives

Explore SDASM Archives’s 453,625 photos on Flickr!

www.flickr.com

 

[hesham]

Hi,

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19580310/8/2

 

[hesham]

From Interavia 1958.

 

[hesham]

From Air Force 1957.

 

[hesham]

From Ryan Report of 1965

 

[Stargazer]

From Ryan Report of 1965

Better use a proper version of the same image!

 

[hesham]

From, Техника - молодежи 1956-07

 

[hesham]

From Technika Loptnicza 1969,the Ryan Model-192,

Recently, there has been a growing interest in short-haul passenger aircraft capable of vertical takeoff and landing. This is related to the planned development of high-speed ground communication. It is believed that only VTOL passenger aircraft, with 60-90 seats, will be able to effectively compete with fast ground vehicles (including those on air cushions), and will also contribute to the densification of ground communication networks.

In addition to projects for high-speed passenger helicopters with additional thrust, helicopters with a stoppable or retractable main rotor, and passenger aircraft with a variable wing or variable rotor blades, the possibility of building a passenger aircraft with lift fans is also being considered. The attached drawing shows an aircraft of this type proposed by Ryan Aeronautical Corp. It is equipped with four jet engines located in the tail section of the fuselage, which during takeoff and landing drive four pairs of lift fans (driven by turbine rings around the perimeter of the fans), which retract into the fuselage during horizontal flight. The drawing of the aircraft was based on the silhouette of a Fokker F-28, which, according to Ryan engineers, would be suitable for use as a VTOL aircraft due to its size. It is also worth noting that Ryan has also proposed building a supersonic passenger aircraft with vertical takeoff and landing capabilities. This aircraft would also have lift fans, carrying 50-100 passengers, and flying at speeds corresponding to Mach 1.8-2.2. Such an aircraft would be used on intercontinental US routes, enabling increased flight frequency.