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Teledyne Ryan VTOL/VSTOL/STOL projects (NOT liftfan/Fan-In-Wing)

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overscan said:
Ryan VATOL, 1950s

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Bernard Lindenbaum, V-STOL Concepts and Developed Aircraft Volume 1 - A Historical Report (1940-1986)

Ryan VTOL fighter project of the late 1950's.
From Japanese Magazine "The Aviation Magazine" September 1958.
 

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Hi,

What was that VTOL army project to Ryan ?.
 

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hesham said:
Hi,

What was that VTOL army project to Ryan ?.

This couldn't be true VTOL, really. Only extremely short take of and landing. Was this the system that enabled the fabled and mythical MC130 that was supposed to be used in the operation to free the American hostages in Iran back in the 80's?
 

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"This couldn't be true VTOL, really."
The Ryan 92 VZ-3 Vertiplane, the forerunner of this concept, suffered
from not having enough thrust (as many others), but I haven't heard,
that the concept itself wouldn't enable "real" VTOL. Of course, if it's a
economical way to achieve VTOL and maybe even with a usable payload
is a different question ... (see http://www.vstol.org/, "History
Overview Brief" )
 

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Jemiba said:
".. some braking rockets "

It's OT here, so I'll post it in the "early secret projects" section, what can be achieved
with braking rockets ... at least theoretically .... ;D

Dear Member,

Reduce the landing distance. The Germans had two rockets in the nose for this purpose. It is a drastic and dangerous solution though I would think.

Jack E. Hammond
 

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jackehammond said:
Jemiba said:
".. some braking rockets "

It's OT here, so I'll post it in the "early secret projects" section, what can be achieved
with braking rockets ... at least theoretically .... ;D

Dear Member,

Reduce the landing distance. The Germans had two rockets in the nose for this purpose. It is a drastic and dangerous solution though I would think.

Jack E. Hammond

It was for the YMC-130H as well. During the test flights the forward facing JATO were fired to early and the aircraft stopped mid-air and in essence fell to the runway, breaking the wing root and destroying the aircraft. Fortunately I believe all of the crew escaped from the ensuing fire.
 

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My question about this design is wouldn't the wing badly interfere with the downwash from the rotor, making it harder to control?

Also, I've looked all over the place and I've found no reference to Ryan designing anything of this sort, so if anyone could find more information, I'd be very happy.
 

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The interference between wing and rotor is a problem for many compound
helicopters and VTOL designs, in this special case, I think, it wouldn't have
been much worse, than, say, for the Bell UH-1B high-speed research compound
from 1969. It's a kind of trade-off between hover performance and maximum
speed.

In May this year we had this design here, too, (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2140.msg16218.html#msg16218),
unfortunately without further information .
 

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Photograph of Ryan "Vertiplane" concept from 1956 found on eBay.

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Seller's description:
A fabulous (approx. 8" X 10") vintage original factory B&W Photograph of a 1956 Ryan "VERTIPLANE" concept Photo. Photograph has a Associated Press press release dated Jun 11, 1956 on back and is part of either my own collection or of other aviation buff's collections that I'm selling and is in VERY GOOD condition as seen in the scan.
 

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Triton said:
Artist's impression of Ryan Aircraft Number: 2108 circa 1964.

Given the time and what we know of Ryan's designation system, I really wonder if this Model "2108" isn't a typo for "210B".
 

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Greetings All -

In a meeting presentation/report I found at the Vought Archives, there were three Teledyne designs referenced I had not seen before. Anyone have info on these?

Enjoy the Day! Mark
 

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Hi Craig -

No date anywhere in the report (actually, probably a printed copy of overhead projector slides) but the V-521 is shown in the report. The opening slide is titled "Supersonic VTOL Fighter Concepts".

Enjoy the Day! Mark
 

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Hi,

please note this Ryan Vertiplane differs in its shape from earlier one,it had a twin boom configuration
and could carry a passengers,with high rear wing.

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/coming-rooftop-airports/
 

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Also from my dear Rolf's discovering;

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/
 

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Hi,

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19580310/8/2
 

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