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Spanish/Egyptian HA-300 supersonic fighter project

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If you are interested:

https://publicaciones.defensa.gob.es/revista-aeroplano-36-revistas-pdf.html
 

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Thank you my dear Paul.
 

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Cool stuff!
I had the chance to see the second prototype of the HA 300 last year in Cairo
The first prototype was on display for many years in Oberschleissheim "Flugwerft" but has been moved to Manching "Stiftung Messerschmitt" in 2015 and is not on display any more since...
 

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hesham said:
Hi,


the HA-300 from L + K.
I can't prove it, but this drawing resembles the pictures I've seen of the third HA-300 prototype which had not finished construction when the program was cancelled. From what I've read, it had variable inlets and a larger aft end to accommodate an afterburner. I'm looking to modify one A&A kit to this configuration.
 

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It will be nice my dear Elmayerle,

but sorry,even in my country,the Info is very rare about it,specially the last one you
mentioned.
 

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Dear Hesham :)
Member Kuno wrote that he visited the second prototype HA-300 in Cairo. I was under the impression that only the first prototype (in Munich) had survived?
Also surprised to read that the third prototype (Brandner E-300 enginene) could have flown once?
Can you enlighten me?
Brgds. Walter
 

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hesham said:
but sorry,even in my country,the Info is very rare about it,specially the last one you
mentioned.
As you know my dear Walter,the details are not available here,but I will check.
 

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Thank you Kuno for clearing up the question of a second surviving HA-300 :)
Regards, Walter
 

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The March, 1999 issue of Air Pictorial has a good article on this subject, entitled "Messerschmitt's Last Fighter", which includes a picture of the Number 3 prototype under construction, clearly showing its variable intakes, and states that the third prototype, with E300 engine, conducted taxi tests but never flew.
 

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Question. Was the production version going to have a radar? Have seen no mention to electronics if any...
 

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Question. Was the production version going to have a radar? Have seen no mention to electronics if any...
One of the drawings on page 1 mentions radar.
 

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Picked up a Russian magazine on Ebay that had an article on the HA-300, the drawings also included the third prototype with variable inlets and enlarged aft end for an afterburner.. It would take some work, but sratchbuilding the changes doesn't look too difficult (thinking that a 1/144 Starfighter should provide reasonably correct variable inlets for 1/72).
 

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"From Nile Eagle to Nassers Folly"

There is a very nice and comprehensive article about the HA 300 in issue No. 27 of "The Aviation Historian"
 

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Oh air intake shock cone and A/B!!
 
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That's the one that had the Brandner E-300 engine installed in it. It supposedly flew once.

This is actually a project I find especially frustrating. The HA-300 and HF-24 Marut, with the E-300 engine, should have outperformed the MiG 21. I suspect both Egypt and India would have been better served by coproducing both aircraft and the engine.

Or it could just be I want to know what both aircraft were really capable of with an engine with the power they were designed for.
 

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