IIRC, both MBB and Northrop were involved in the C-101 design effort. Northrop did also help in the devlopment o the contemporary Taiiwanese AIDC AT-3 trainer which also bore a semblance to the C-101 (wings and center fuselaje) and used the same engine.pometablava said:I find it very similar to C-101. Does anybody know if there was any conection between Messerschmitt and HASA?.
Btw, further E-300 versions were planned at the end of the 1960s:A full scale glider, HA-300P, was completed by Hispano in 1959. In 1960 the Spanish government terminated the program and it was transferred to Egypt. At the same time Ferdinand Brandner (ex Junkers and latterly Kuznetsov) was invited to Egypt to work on suitable engine, designated "E-300-A".
By 1969, this project was hardly "cutting edge," and it hard to imagine Egypt continuing funding for a domestic fighter when the Soviets were willing to supply MiG-21s free of charge. Of course, Nasser was not a well man at this point and the Soviets were supporting the weapons buildup that lead to the so-called "War of Attrition."overscan said:First flight of the HA-300 was 7 March 1964 with Orpheus engines. The E-300 engine was tested in flight from 1966 on an An-12, and the first flight of an E-300 engined HA-300 was expected to begin mid July 1969. Six weeks before this, the German team found themselves barred from the Helouan factory and the program, airframe and engine, was abandoned.
Air International May 1975
I understood perfectly, I believe the normal term in English is "aft fan".boxkite said:· E-300AF with an rear fan (oh my English! :– do you know, what I want to say?), thrust 4,600 kp, length 3,000 mm, diameter 1,200 mm, specific comsumption 0.65 kg/kp.h
The "aft fan" concept is bit archaic these days.overscan said:
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1969/1969%20-%201083.htmlEGYPT'S HA-300 CANCELLED CANCELLATION BY THE EGYPTIANS of the Helwan HA-300 supersonic fighter reflects both the dependence of Egypt on Soviet arms supplies and also the pressure upon the Egyptian economy to pay for these. The first HA-300, a nonsupersonic version, flew for the first time on March 7, 1964; it was powered by a Bristol Siddeley Orpheus BOr.2 turbojet and two prototypes were built. The supersonic HA-300 was powered by an E-300 engine designed by the Austrian Professor Ferdinand Brandner; the airframe was based on a Messerschmitt design. It is suggested (in a recent Interavia Air Letter report) that the
Egyptian Air Force has now lost interest in the HA-300 since it has been reequipped with Soviet aircraft following the six-day war.
The two Egyptian aircraft factories which had been set up at Helwan, just outside Cairo, have been taken over by the Ministry of Industry following the dissolution by President Nasser of the Ministry for Military Production.
In a recent article in The Times onthe current Egyptian military situation, Winston S. Churchill reports that, even before the six-day war, the Russians had made themselves militarily indispensible to the Egyptians and that now "Egypt's agricultural and growing oil production has been mortgaged for years in advance to pay not only for Soviet arms but the development of an Egyptian-made fighter [HA-300] aircraft and surface-to-surface missiles—the Victor and Conqueror, none of which has progressed beyond prototype stage."
What happened in fact to the HA-P-300 "Boligrafo"(ball-pen) experimental glider (also referenced HA23P or HA-300P in some documents) after its tests at San Paulo, Spain?
I have this photo from Cuatros Vientos Museum but I don't know if it is the original aircraft or just a (scale)-model.
I have it hard to believe it was smaller than a Gnat ( I will do a search on it ).avatar said:Gentlemen,
This my first post here. Here is a rather detailed report on the HA-300 and its Indian connection
GTX,GTX said:Thanks Martin. Unfortunately, that is the site that I first found the kit info. Unfortunately though, nowhere on that site gives an idea of where to buy. The site has issues opening too.