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Space Suit Prototypes (like Grumman Moon Suit, Republic etc)

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here some of crazy space suits ever build the "Tincan"

Moon suit by Grumman in year 1959
Hard shell suit with flexible arms and Legs
Note no Live support system in Suit but a Umbilical supply with electric power and oxygen ! ! !

bigger size pic (from the Mohave desert test)
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?q=Moon+Suit+source:life&imgurl=f4fde44ae0ea8ecf
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l?q=Moon+Suit+source:life&imgurl=f4fde44ae0ea8ecf
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?q=Moon+Suit+source:life&imgurl=381aefdde012e507
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/f?q=Moon+Suit+source:life&imgurl=ac77457f7f6f5d6f
 

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That is not a very elegant design but it allows you to scratch your nose ...
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That is not a very elegant design but it allows you to scratch your nose ...
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wonderfull Picture justo

Picture Escamear00006 show the sleep position for astronaut
who ever is there still the question with "badroom" in this suit ::)


celci es pas une Grumman Moon Suit
but a earlier Republic study
 

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No hands no legs
"Bottle suit" from Dr Heins Habor and Willy Ley 1954
"Physiology of man in space" Brown JHV 1963
Academic Press
 

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cool picture

back Grumman Lunar explartion suit mk I
1960 Designed by Allyn B. Hazard (no Joke, thats the men real name)
here better grafic with more data
 

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...Major Matt Mason, however, made this walking pillbox something fun.
 

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Justo Miranda said:
That is not a very elegant design but it allows you to scratch your nose ...
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"I've fallen, and I can't get up" ;) :D

Regards & all,

Thomas L. Nielsen
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Lauge said:
"I've fallen, and I can't get up" ;) :D

...Actually, there's a "neck ring" that was supposed to help prevent that as well as helping keep the glass from smashing if the Astronaut fell down. Much of the worry that a stumbling moonwalker couldn't get back up came from some of the early Mercury suit tests in the "Vomit Comet", where it was more an issue of suit mobility that caused the problem than man's "inability" to deal with < 1G.
 

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One of the problems in designing spacesuits is that once you apply 1 atmosphere of pressure on the inside of the suit, it freezes and locks the joints which would work freely when 1 atmosphere of pressure applied on the inside and the outside. I remember reading an entire book devoted to the development of the spacesuit which traced its history back through various early pressure suits and that was perhaps the biggest problem they had to overcome.
 

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Grumman Lunar exploration suit mk I was part of a Aerojet Lunarflight Proposal
here the link
http://www.apollomissionphotos.com/index_apollo_aerojet.html

and here also Interesting picture
is this a Spacesuit testing or just publicity picture ?

from here
http://www.yunchtime.net/?m=200710
 

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Publicity? :D
 

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Publicity? ;)
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Michel Van said:
and here also in tressting picture

Could be both, to contrast with how unbelievably bulky the previous suits were (which don't come off as suits so much as one-man, wearer-powered vehicles)
 

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Michel Van said:
and here also in tressting picture
is this a Spacesuit testing or just publicity picture ?

I think you'll find thats a partial pressure suit for use by pilots in high altitude flights. Not a spacesuit. If you look, the boots aren't pressure boots. Nor is there any physical join between them and the suit. He also appears to be wearing a g-vest.
 

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rickshaw said:
I think you'll find that's a partial pressure suit for use by pilots in high altitude flights. Not a spacesuit. If you look, the boots aren't pressure boots. Nor is there any physical join between them and the suit. He also appears to be wearing a g-vest.

i found the suit on picture, is a 1958 B. F. Goodrich Mark III for the Navy
later it became Mark IV and Mercury Spacesuit
on the picture is still the dark gray nylon outer shell Instead the later aluminum-coated nylon of Mercury suit


you don't need pressure boots on this suit, they had neoprene rubber "socks" to ensure that the suit was airtight
only the black leather safety boots needed
but for Mercury suit the boots were later aluminum-coated nylon leather. (This was for thermal control.)


on last Mercury flight the "boots" as an integral part of the spacesuit itself.

the picture show the Mercury suit with black "Socks" source NASA
 

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here a English Space Suit prototype


the Windak suit in unusual test environment ;D

by way it seem they made also unusual test with Apollo space suits
the legend tells of American football game in suits to test agility
 

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Just in case you don't know, there's a new model company I believed called Monarch Models that has plans of releasing a model of the Life Cover model moon suit soon. Hopefully they will be at Wonderfest this year with some updates.
 

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Skycop said:
Just in case you don't know, there's a new model company I believed called Monarch Models that has plans of releasing a model of the Life Cover model moon suit soon. Hopefully they will be at Wonderfest this year with some updates.

...Word I heard on this one on another modeling forum a few months back is that it's been shelved. Monarch has made a lot of new kit announcements, but only three kits have been produced so far, and one of them is just a glow-in-the-dark reissue of their first kit.
 

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Michel Van said:
here a English Space Suit prototype

What is the history to this one? Was this actually a true space suit or just a pressure suit?
 

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I'm no expert but i didn't think it was a spacesuit - though in a way it did get to the moon and space;)
 

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Barrington Bond said:
I'm no expert but i didn't think it was a spacesuit - though in a way it did get to the moon and space;)

those movie suite were used also in episode of "Department S"

on British Spacesuits
is paradox that they study spacesuit design, but abandon all efforts for Space flights
and end in movies and Tv

bloody labor politics :mad:
 

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It was the Lunar Module pilot suits from "First Men In The Moon" that reappeared in Dept S "The Man From X" with different helmets rather than the ones I posted ;)

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Barry
 

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here something new
thats Niel Armstrong in Spacesuit

but this is not a Mercury Spacesuit or Gemini Spacesuit
but which one ?
 

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It was a G3-C a prototype for the actual G4-C suits used during Gemini programme.
 

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Additional G3-C info ...
 

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Please see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aa_09a_nasasuit_flagfound.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Men_in_the_Moon_(1964_film)
 

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Not quite a spacesuit...I believe that's a Vulcan tail warning radar next to it.
 

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All in all I would just as soon see something like this

http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/library/meetings/annual/jun02/714Hodgson.pdf

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/chameleon_suit_021106.html
 

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we had British spacesuit prototype and how they end in Movie and TV

but this beat them all

P Frankenstein and Sons Ltd. (which later became the Frankenstein Group Ltd),
was founded in 1854 and had a base at the Victoria Rubber Works in Newton Heath.

in 1960`s they made prototypes spacesuit for RAF
and in 1967 Space suit for Stanley Kubrick ‘2001: A Space Odyssey. !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/articles/2007/01/10/100107_spacesuit_feature.shtml
special thanks to Barrington Bond
 

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From always great www.blog.modernmechanix.com

Energency Pressure Cell (first pic) is absolutely FABOULOS

more + hi-res versions here http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2006/05/18/heres-what-well-wear-in-space/
 

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...The first pic demonstrates what happens to Gumby when you cut him in half :D :D
 

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some times i find nice Information
but this a T-Bone Stake on Space Suits Information

Discovery Moon Machines episode Spacesuit
i see a astronaut playing football in suit
Leblanc almost deathly accident in vacuum camber
and the best is on You tube (also in HD) YHIEEPEE

[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE5C97X2nbE[/flash]
Part 1

[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s7XdHzFjZg[/flash]
Part 2

[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftPO9l85IwY[/flash]
Part 3 (the Urin collector "Problem")

[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lBkDTKSB2k[/flash]
Part 4 (ILC Football game)

[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoDsfQl3sLQ[/flash]
Part 5 (Leblanc accident in vaccum camber)
 

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Hi,

Super postings very interesting,
UK, Commonwealth Military Manned Space programme cancellation June 1960 before Labour/Wilson Government, suspects, Macmillan, Zuckerman and primary culprit Mountbatten? That sort of Space Suit work is not done for fun by private companies and paid for by taxpayers money with out a real purpose

Following the lead, “The film depicts the 1960s astronaut space suit run-of-the-mill film prop spacesuits with a 1960s-type aqualung cylinder each instead of a NASA-type life support backpack”



Has anyone a picture of the Normalair Spacesuit life support back pack shown at Farnborough circa 1962?

Or a good picture of the Farnborough emergency standard wear skin suit and flexible “handbag” helmet for use on UK space stations or re-entry vehicles?

Not Space suit just under water breathing but did Cmd Crab use a carbon dioxide removal system at Gibraltar in WW2, submarine escape apparatus read/heard about it 1956 so could be wrong?

Once again super posting very interesting thread.
 

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