Shenyang FC-31 demonstrators / J-35 naval fighter / J-35A land-based version

Deino said:
Two PLAN J-35 were also posted recently as well as for the first time two J-35 flying together with three J-15T (maybe preparing for the parade in September?)

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I'd assume that they are practicing for the Parade in September. It's easy to do a formation of planes when they're all the same type. It's a lot harder to do a formation of planes when they're mixed types, you need to find the spot that allows both planes to fly with good control but still slow enough to give people time to look.
 
A J-20 was seen for the first time flying in formation with two J-35A supporting claims, it has "entered the limited service with PLAAF in 2025, ahead of its naval counterpart" (via Huitong's CMA-Blog).(Image via @DS木淫系宜腹 from Weibo)

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And right a moment later, this image was posted:

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alberchico said:
The biggest drawback is that Pakistan would be undergoing the JF-17 saga all over again, getting a brand new aircraft that will likely have the kind of technical issues and gremlins that all new aircraft have when entering service, which will give their technicians many long sleepless nights. Not to mention the likelihood of having to undertake costly upgrades in the future as more advanced Block variants are put into service. They were wise to wait for the J-10C variant to become available before finally placing their order for that aircraft. But the tradeoff is that Pakistan becomes the first country in South Asia to get a stealth fighter jet.
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That's a reasonable approach, but unlike with the JF-17, the J-35 would also be operated by the PLAAF and PLANAF. So having such a strong user base might actually be an advantage. As the Pakistanis could benefit from developments and upgrades meant for the PLA forces.
 
Deino said:
A J-20 was seen for the first time flying in formation with two J-35A supporting claims, it has "entered the limited service with PLAAF in 2025, ahead of its naval counterpart" (via Huitong's CMA-Blog).(Image via @DS木淫系宜腹 from Weibo)

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I guess these are Air Force birds? The naval ones will fly with J-15 during the parade. Either way they already entered service with test units and ever air division in PLAAF wants to fly up against them since they are the best F-35 analogue within PLAAF and PLANAF.
 
My guess is that the real J35 (naval version) has a more important task to do at the moment (taking into account the recent dynamics of the Fujian aircraft carrier), and it is normal to pull out the idle prototype for the parade.
By the way, some people may think that the J35 can't take off by a glide, which was a news item last September.
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The original words of the video are: "The new fighter is on the ship, very beautiful!" He also compared it to the J15's first carrier take-off.
Of course, there is also a very unfortunate speculation that the new fighter is the J15T, but I personally think that the J15T alone is not enough to make the retired officer praise "beautiful", I bet it is the J35
 
SUPER=BUG said:
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For the first time, China's two fifth-generation aircraft are in the same frame.A photo on Weibo.From a certain point of view, the J20 is really big.
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This is not real and in fact based on this PS made by @兰墨飞花_星海入梦日出烟燧 on Weibo!

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I think it will be interesting to see if the lower end, less capable J-35 will be able to exceed the production numbers of the PLAAFs favorite child, the J-20. Which had a multi year headstart and is already upon introducing two new variants into service with the J-20A and J-20S.

So will the lower cost offset that lead or will the J-35 just replace the J-10s and perhaps J-11s, while the J-20 will supersede the majority of PLAAF legacy aircraft. Then complementing the very top end J-36 in the 2030s onwards.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the J35 will have a two-seater version in the future, and if the body doesn't get a little bigger, the overall proportions may be a little strange.
 
SUPER=BUG said:
If I'm not mistaken, the J35 will have a two-seater version in the future, and if the body doesn't get a little bigger, the overall proportions may be a little strange.
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Why would J-35 get a twin seater in the future, IMO J-20S is already expected to be a rather low volume product and will probs suffice for basically any scenario that would require a twin seater 5th gen.
 
Tomboy said:
Why would J-35 get a twin seater in the future, IMO J-20S is already expected to be a rather low volume product and will probs suffice for basically any scenario that would require a twin seater 5th gen.
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I guess, MUM-T + carrier aviation.
 
FighterJock said:
So the truth is out Deino, Pakistan is not getting the J-35A now at least not for the time being.
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Seems so, but if you listen to the craziest hardcore fan-boys, they now come with such arguments, politicians in Pakistan are always unreliable, but Jane's said so, and they will come ... I should only wait for about 6 weeks! ;)
 
Tomboy said:
Why would J-35 get a twin seater in the future, IMO J-20S is already expected to be a rather low volume product and will probs suffice for basically any scenario that would require a twin seater 5th gen.
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The Air Force may not be very interested, but the only stealth carrier-based aircraft in the Navy at the moment is the J35, and they may be interested.
 
The visibility from the PLAN J-35 cockpit is impressively good with a pilot seated very high with appreciable over the shoulder vision. However the stealth attribute seems lacking.
Idem for the DSI. I am wondering if they simply did not cancel the active flow feature seen on the J-20 for a more sea spray resilient passive bump.
 
See how the canopy is not obviously reflective (and, maybe, for once, swallow back your LoL).
It's not because this is the internet that we have to be categorial. You can ask your question before mocking another member remark... This is permitted.
 
TomcatViP said:
See how the canopy is not obviously reflective (and, maybe, for once, swallow back your LoL).
It's not because this is the internet that we have to be categorial. You can ask your question before mocking another member remark... This is permitted.
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1st, It's a prototype.

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Seems same, both canopies have subtle greenish-brow hue
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IMO, I don't actually think the J-35As shown at Zhuhai was actually fully coated with stealth paint. The leaked pic of a the actual production model had similar dielectric linings on the edges like J-20
 
TomcatViP said:
See how the canopy is not obviously reflective (and, maybe, for once, swallow back your LoL).
It's not because this is the internet that we have to be categorial. You can ask your question before mocking another member remark... This is permitted.
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I think the pictures that have been published since Zhuhai and during the airshow certainly indicate a conductive canopy coating. And in general the J-35 seems to have a good finish and overall follows into the footsteps of the F-22 and F-35 with regards to planform and general arrangement of things like intakes, stabilizers etc.

So I don't see any reason why the "stealth attributes seem lacking".

I'll be so free to ignore the rest of your comment.
 
TomcatViP said:
See how the canopy is not obviously reflective (and, maybe, for once, swallow back your LoL).
It's not because this is the internet that we have to be categorial. You can ask your question before mocking another member remark... This is permitted.
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Why would they have reflective coating on the J-20's canopy and not on the J-35? So yeah, it's quite a funny statement to make.
 
I see some have abilities to see what's not here with this conductive coating on the j-35 picture. I can't argue with that as you probably have some kind of multispectral vison unheard from my side of mankind.
 

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