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Motocar's Cutaway drawings

steelpillow

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Motocar was the one who made the speculative cutaway that bothers him so much, rather than enjoying it...
Oh, but I do enjoy it Motocar! It is a beautiful image, so much better than I can draw. As I said, it is only when it is presented as accurate that I am unhappy.
In case it helps, here is my own crude effort to put right some of the inaccuracies: the cockpit is moved forwards, the nose line smoothed, the nose intake more circular, the guns back behind the pilot, the canopy extended backwards, a steel wing box/fuel tank (with some internal stiffening) depicted and the undercarriage rearranged behind it (though the hinge is still too far forward and outboard), a central sheet steel chassis and carry-through box to which the wing is bolted (I am unsure if the jet intake or cockpit armour would have been integral with it yet). It may be rougher, but it is closer to the actual design.BV-210-alt.jpg
 
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The point is that the Motocar's cutaway is essentially consistent with the Flitzer's 2 views artwork.
Considering the modification that Steelpillow propose we must assume that Flitzer's arttwork is also wrong.

Right?
 

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Estos comentarios son mas contructivos que los anteriores...! Gracias, Motocar.

P.D. Los perfiles de guia son de gran ayuda pero en ocasiones tambien son especulativos y generan una cadena de errores involuntarios...!
 

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Oh, my, I am losing my marbles! I owe Motocar (and by implication also Flitzer and overscan) a sincere apology for the worst of my criticisms, as I have been at least as inaccurate: I have been muddling up the B&V P 210 with the P 209!:eek::oops:
My drawing is effectively the P 209. I suppose it started because Motocar originally posted on another thread in the middle of a P 209 discussion and I stupidly missed the change of subject. Flitzer's side profile of the P 210 is as good as it gets and I should not have altered the forward fuselage and cockpit in the way that I did. On the other hand I was right to pick up on the steel box spar and carry-through. We both got the main wheel wells wrong - they lie flat underneath as Motocar drew them but further back as I drew them.
(I think...)
Sincere apologies again to all concerned.
 

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Oh, my, I am losing my marbles! I owe Motocar (and by implication also Flitzer and overscan) a sincere apology for the worst of my criticisms, as I have been at least as inaccurate: I have been muddling up the B&V P 210 with the P 209!:eek::oops:
Ok but, in any case, the Flitzer's 2 views (and the Motocar's cutaway based upon it) and the Zizi6785's 3 views are not exactly the same thing.
Fuselage shape, canopy shape, cannon position, engine area and winglets are quite different.
What is right and what is wrong?
 

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When I make a speculative cutaway drawing I do it trying to use all the available data, the originals and the interpretations of other artists of the cutaway and the profiles, the critics are always welcome to make a revision that allows to improve the work already presented. Thanks to Steelpillow, archipeppe and Zizi6786 for their contributions, criticisms and opinions in favor of that almost forgotten fighter Blhom & Voss BV-210 project...
 

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Read carefully the note indicated on which they alerted me, I ask Can I continue to share the modifications, tweaks and originals that I have made or that are in the project or because they are completed? How are the cutaways already shared in the topic that I have in the forum and in those others where I have shared images of other authors? Greetings and thanks. Motocar
 

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Read carefully the note indicated on which they alerted me, I ask Can I continue to share the modifications, tweaks and originals that I have made or that are in the project or because they are completed? How are the cutaways already shared in the topic that I have in the forum and in those others where I have shared images of other authors? Greetings and thanks. Motocar
 
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