MiG MFI / I-90 - MiG 1.44 / MiG 1.42

[hesham]

From Air International 1996

 

[GTX]

Not a bad little video:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh-L2og9vxc&pp=ygUcYXVzdHJhbGlhbiBtaWxpdGFyeSBhdmlhdGlvbg%3D%3D

 

[Hydroman]

Not a bad little video:

China did not forget it.

 

[NovaGA]

China did not forget it.

China delta-canard research is NOT connected with MiG-MFI studies.

 

[paralay]

...

 

[F-2]

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Is that the official CAD model from the program,?

 

[AGS-1787]

could you share the file maybe to turn it into an STL for 3d print?

 

[paralay]

The 3D model is still in the process of being created, and I'm still learning how to do it, so please don't judge me too harshly

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/kbYCPcxFW0G1AAhttps://disk.yandex.ru/d/RLPiEJMlU9VeHw

 

[paralay]

Is that the official CAD model from the program,?

unofficial

 

[AGS-1787]

It looks pretty awesome!

 

[Avimimus]

It is pretty.

I'd always assumed the R-37 would have been semi-recessed (like on the Mig-31)?

 

[paralay]

I assume that the first models of this aircraft were equipped with 4 R-77s under the fuselage, on AKU-170 ejector systems
AKU without cases, their mechanisms are mounted in the fuselage

 

[paralay]

12 weapon suspension points - 12 targets to be fired at simultaneously

2 К-172 400 - 300 km
4 К-37 300 km
4 К-77 105 - 85 km
2 К-30 50 km

compare this to the F-22 and its 1116 kg combat load

 

[Erdosain]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2052871555932164250

View: https://x.com/i/status/2052871555932164250

 

[BROF]

And missile carriage is deliciously stealthy...

 

[garand1937]

Has anyone ever been able to nail down what the Height/Length/Width measurements for this thing are? I've seen the length vary in different sources from 17 to 21 meters. Trying to work on a 3d model but its hard when the length itself various so widely across sources.

 

[Ainen]

And missile carriage is deliciously stealthy...

Well, 1.42 was effectively a megaeurofighter.(More or less doubled).

After ATF upped the stealth game, term "5th generation" wasn't really applicable to it any longer.

 

[paralay]

Has anyone ever been able to nail down what the Height/Length/Width measurements for this thing are? I've seen the length vary in different sources from 17 to 21 meters. Trying to work on a 3d model but its hard when the length itself various so widely across sources.

1.44 wingspan 15 meters, 1.42 wingspan 17 meters. If you remind me, I'll post the 3D model in two weeks

 

[garand1937]

1.44 wingspan 15 meters, 1.42 wingspan 17 meters. If you remind me, I'll post the 3D model in two weeks

Thanks your a life saver, not that I don't trust you but where do those numbers come from? And does anyone know why there is such a large variation?

 

[paralay]

Because these are two different aircraft. It is likely that the requirement to replace the MiG-31 and its four long-range R-37 missiles was added to 1.42. Only the Su-27 was required to be replaced from 1.44

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

1.42 had a cranked delta wing which increased wingspan.

 

[garand1937]

Because these are two different aircraft. It is likely that the requirement to replace the MiG-31 and its four long-range R-37 missiles was added to 1.42. Only the Su-27 was required to be replaced from 1.44

Gotcha so for the Mig 1.44 it should be 16x15x4.5 meters?

 

[paralay]

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Gotcha so for the Mig 1.44 it should be 16x15x4.5 meters?

Erm.. nope, its over 20m long....

 

[paralay]

STL models, one with missiles and one without

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/0niJCFQ4oXzSww
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/lp-1sP5182jbPA

 

[SuperShark]

Paralay you spoil us...

 

[paralay]

I'm not greedy

 

[Erdosain]

improved by AI

https://twitter.com/x/status/2094588101779706119

View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2094588101779706119/photo/2

 

[Erdosain]

more images improved by AI

https://twitter.com/x/status/2096937438505496846

View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2096937438505496846
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View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2095534401408926061

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View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2095288750720901165

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View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2095075741587132464

https://twitter.com/x/status/2094995319930982705

View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2094995319930982705

 

[Erdosain]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2095079137811550515

View: https://x.com/WDequid/status/2095079137811550515

 

[FighterJock]

I never realized that the MiG-1.44 was as big as that Erdosain, the people standing next to it certainly show how big it is.

 

[LMFS]

Thanks to Twitter, there is something new released, I believe that's belong to MFI project

There where a bunch of MiG concepts shown a few years ago. No actual development projects behind them, from what I know.

 

[hesham]

From AW 1996.

 

[Motocar]

Light AI retouched...

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

No AI images in any Secret (Unbuilt) Projects topics please. I'll move them elsewhere.

 

[Scott Kenny]

I never realized that the MiG-1.44 was as big as that Erdosain, the people standing next to it certainly show how big it is.

Yeah, that's "Flanker-sized" if not bigger. Yikes.

 

[Ainen]

Yeah, that's "Flanker-sized" if not bigger. Yikes.

It had 36t of thrust...they went somewhere.

 

[Scott Kenny]

It had 36t of thrust...they went somewhere.

Ho. Lee. Crap!

[insert "mind blown" emoji here]

That's more thrust than an F-22 or SR-71! More thrust than a MiG-31, too.

 

[Avimimus]

Yeah, it was a big plane. Almost a redesign of the Mig-31 to be a "Eurocanard" in some ways. It is one of the reasons why depictions of it with the R-77 rather than the R-37 always seemed to be missing the point a bit. Presumably it would have had a pretty powerful radar as well.

 

[FighterJock]

I would have thought that if the 1.42 had entered service it would have had the R-37 as well as the R-77.