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Grey Havoc said:

...Thank you, sir, for the chart post. A student of my brother's sent an RFI to me yesterday asking if I had comparative info between the Proton, Atlas and Ariane boosters for a report he's working on. This should give him enough data start with, after which he can hit Mark Wade to help do his homework for him :) :) :)
 

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According to TsAGI's Tekhnicheskaya Informatsiya (No.20, 1983) this was a Japanese space shuttle project. I never realized that Japan had begun working that early on a shuttle of their own, nor that they had a program that was designed so closely along the lines of Rockwell's general configuration (despite a smaller size and very different tail and rear).
 

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Skyblazer said:
According to TsAGI's Tekhnicheskaya Informatsiya (No.20, 1983) this was a Japanese space shuttle project. I never realized that Japan had begun working that early on a shuttle of their own, nor that they had a program that was designed so closely along the lines of Rockwell's general configuration (despite a smaller size and very different tail and rear).
That's must be a early study of HOPE shuttle in begin 1980s or so.
so far i know the Japanese start around 1978 on HOPE.
 

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I've never seen a good detailed discussion of just what Japan did on HOPE. Did it ever get past basic paper studies to the point where they started to do more detailed design work? I don't think so. But I just don't know.
 

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Regarding the design for the H3: http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002276630
 

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Isn't the main image actually of the McDonnell-Douglas Orient Express.
 

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Meteorit said:
Isn't the main image actually of the McDonnell-Douglas Orient Express.

To my eye it is. I guess the magazine editor wanted a nice pic for the title page, and a touched-up NASP did the job...
 

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starviking said:
Meteorit said:
Isn't the main image actually of the McDonnell-Douglas Orient Express.
To my eye it is. I guess the magazine editor wanted a nice pic for the title page, and a touched-up NASP did the job...
Ha! Found the original: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,250.msg1492.html#msg1492. It looks like the magazine artist just altered the color scheme a bit, even the background matches.

And thanks for posting this, flateric!

 

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the Picture source say: Archive, Hildebrand
aka the McDonnell-Douglas Orient Express artwork modified by the Illustrator of Flug Revue

On Text, in begin the author Helga L. Hildebrand
about Japans join race for a SSTO similar to US NASP maybe with collaboration of US Industry
Because Japan Aerospace industry missing basic knowledge ofSonic and Hypersonic Aircraft

next of High stake Japanese Space Plans of own Space Station with cheap SSTO, that also to be used as SST
it's not surprise that the SSTO show likeness to NASP but also Japan look for collaboration on NASP
NASP Program Director Robert R. Barthelemy was on Visti to Japan to see this matter.

Japanese National Aerospace Laboratory NAL making R&D on this project

Basic version a 350.8 metric tons aircraft that bring 4 men and cargo into 700 km high orbit, whit help of Air-breading and Rocket engine.
is 65 meter long, 18.92 mete high, wingspan 24.68 meter. with Canard wings on front.
as engine it has six Scream Jets and three rocket engines using 80 metric tons liquid hydrogen and 164 metric tons liquid oxygen
next NASP like was also Sanger like TSTO study but concentrating on SSTO it prototype should be ready to fly in 2006.

Kawasaki heavy Industry version looks more like Concorde
is 66 meter long, 13.8 meter high, wingspan 30 meter.

Mitsubish version
is 86.8 meter long, 19.2 meter high, wingspan 25.23 meter.

Fuji version
is 75 meter long, ?? meter high, wingspan 25 meter.
using six ATR air Turbo Ramjets and one rocket engine

but to reach that Prototype the Industry proposed NAL a smaller research aircraft for Mach 7, max flight hight of 172 Km.
crew of 2 men with two jet engine and two Rocket engine

Kawasaki heavy Industry version
is 26.39 meter long, 9.23 meter high, wingspan 11.5 meter. 40 metric tons takeoff weight
using three engine

Mitsubish version is more a Mach 7 Interceptor
is 22.8 meter long, 7.3 meter high, wingspan 10.26 meter.

Fuji version Concorde like aircraft.
is 35.25 meter long, 6.9 meter high, wingspan 14 meter. 50 metric tons takeoff weight

the Japanese space plane is four phase program
were first phase was from 1986 to 1989 was finance by Japanese Government
But biggest problem is there is no money for program phase two to four
the Japanese Government not public funded the Program since 1989
only MITI put research money into Hypersonic Jet engines and Material R&D around 3 million US dollar
what missing on Program are Vital installation for R&D on engine and new materials testing and hypersonic wind tunnel.
NAL hope that HOPE serve as research glider for Hypersonic speeds...
 

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Some more stuff from 1989 on Japanese goals and projects for space can be found in this old JPRS report: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a347751.pdf
 

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flateric said:
Hi,

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19881010/21/2
http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19881010/22/2
 

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I never saw like this Before;

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19911216/32/2
 

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Hi,

http://archive.aviationweek.com/image/spread/19860721/47/2
 

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