Boeing Vertol alternate HLH proposals and other crane helicopters

That was a great project. I am still incredulous that the leadership at Ft. Rucker elected to destroy the prototype. All that is left now are some data plates and the hook. :'(
The HLH mock up was heavily damaged in a hurricane and was never meant to sit outside and was heavily corroded. The only incredulity should be in the manner it was displayed.
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I could be remembering wrong, Ill have to check my photos but I believe the Rucker photo here predates 2005.

Gary
 
By the lack of a photograph of the XCH -62 in flight it never did. What was the problem was it a lack of funds or was there a mechanical problem.
 
By the lack of a photograph of the XCH -62 in flight it never did. What was the problem was it a lack of funds or was there a mechanical problem.
I am not sure what killed the program. I have seen discussions here about wether it was an incomplete prototype or a mock up. I can tell you from seeing the beast all broken up after hurricane/scrapping that it was not built to fly, just a mock up. Perhaps cnx was due to pod fascination going out of style, or perhaps Skycrane killed.

Sadly my visits to the museum were always targeted, and depended on curator for storage access. I did not get to spend a lot of time exploring the museum proper
I did a walk through and it is a fantastic place to go if you have the opportunity. I was only
a couple hours away at the time, and regret not visiting more.
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I was there the day it was torn up. The data plates, sticks and grips and the HUGE cargo hook were recovered. The contractor who was hired to destroy the vehicle gave us thirty minutes. I am half guessing but I think the engines needed were not ready and with the Army's focus on Europe the need for it vice other program efforts caused it to be cancelled.
 
Some parts (don’t know what) were supposedly taken to the Helicopter Museum at Weston-super-Mare UK (wiki article for what that’s worth), saw not mention on their website.

Anyone know?
 
Found what might be a Boeing-Vertol self promotion piece on their HLH efforts... A beautiful bit of artwork and of interest is the kneeling capability, which I've never seen before.

Regards
Pioneer
 

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Found what might be a Boeing-Vertol self promotion piece on their HLH efforts...
Its from the British kids magazine Look and Learn (No 495 10/7/1971) and painted by its resident artist Wilf Hardy.
 
Happy new year all came across this on FB.

cheers

(attachement see #130)
 
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A recent donation to the Museum harvested this color art of the drawing posted earlier in #20 and #83. Rather like the forward gear set up on this - Praying Mantis comes to mind...

Enjoy the Day! Mark
 

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The real fun is betting on how far the marshalling soldier standing in front of the beast would have been blown on take off.

Copilot (peering over the instument panel) - "What's that guy doing? Should we tell him to move or something?"

Pilot - "Naw. Bet $10 we blast him twenty feet."

Flight Engineer - "I'm in for thirty feet."

Copilot - "twentyfive!"
 

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By the lack of a photograph of the XCH -62 in flight it never did. What was the problem was it a lack of funds or was there a mechanical problem.
I am not sure what killed the program. I have seen discussions here about wether it was an incomplete prototype or a mock up. I can tell you from seeing the beast all broken up after hurricane/scrapping that it was not built to fly, just a mock up.
No, that was the prototype... according to Boeing:
Heavy Lift Helicopter - Prototype Technical Summary Boeing Vertol Co April 1980.
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Design, fabrication, and assembly of one prototype HLH was 90 percent completed. An advanced aluminum honeycomb airframe, landing gear, and subsystems not included in the ATC effort were designed and fabricated. Limited laboratory tests were conducted to assure airworthiness of the prototype aircraft. Mockups were constructed of the crew compartment and aft area.
 
From Vertiflite 2002.
 

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From Vertiflite 2002.
Hello,
I did this drawing more than 20 years ago (! time is passing so fast). Here is a higher resolution in attachment. It was fun to do it, and the machine is so extraordinary! An article had been submitted in Vertiflite, but I'm not sure if the author submitted it for other magazines (maybe Le Fana de l'Aviation but I'm not sure).
I attached also some other drawings I did.
The Anigrand model maker isssued a 3 view plan on their box that seems quite interesting.
Maybe one day I will make a new 3 views plan, as I progressed a little bit in my graphics, because I feel the plan I did was too simplistic, we could do so much more with a whatif in operation or with different schemes.
 

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The two appetizers, but the other pictures have been posted before.
Source (German, but behind a Paywall):
Edit (2025-05-27):
I added all ten pictures from this article to this post today, even if some of these pictures have been posted in this topic before. ;) :)
 

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Indeed it is all academic now. At least some of the data-plates and the giant hook was saved by intrepid souls who begged the contractor to give them half an hour to recover them from the destruction.
It's sad to see the destruction of it and complete ignorance that thing was amazing I remember going to uh-1 training at Fort Rucker has a crew chief she sat out front of the museum I have pictures with her in the background amazing things like this Inspire younger generations and people she was one of a kind there was no need to destroy it complete ignorance she should have been preserved for the young ones to see and a part of History so much a governing entity sad
 
Awesome stuff, thanks for sharing. The CH-62 lifting a contenair out of a ship reminds me Flying Whales airship doing the same. Is there any real interest in airlifting contenairs out of ships and away from ports ? or is it just a bad idea ?
 
Is there any real interest in airlifting contenairs out of ships and away from ports ? or is it just a bad idea ?
I believe that a major issue over the years, especially in the United States, has been resistance to the idea from various unions and 'their' politicians.
 
Awesome stuff, thanks for sharing. The CH-62 lifting a contenair out of a ship reminds me Flying Whales airship doing the same. Is there any real interest in airlifting contenairs out of ships and away from ports ? or is it just a bad idea ?
It has it uses in astute areas where the infrastructure is basically what you bring.

With how common the Container is these days it can represent many things as well depending on what's in it.
 
I believe that a major issue over the years, especially in the United States, has been resistance to the idea from various unions and 'their' politicians.
More to the point is the fact that cranes use vastly less energy to move each container than a helicopter does, and can unload many more cranes in a given amount of time too. And the training needed to become a crane operator is hugely less than that needed to become a helo pilot. In military scenarios, away from normal port facilities, helos make sense, as Firefinder pointed out. But at regular cargo ports they sure don't. So it comes down to a classic calculation of cost-benefit in various scenarios, just the sort of thing my old group used to do. In fact I was with Boeing's Canard Rotor Wing group when JHL came up, and you should have seen the ugly pig we came up with! :)
 
More to the point is the fact that cranes use vastly less energy to move each container than a helicopter does, and can unload many more cranes in a given amount of time too. And the training needed to become a crane operator is hugely less than that needed to become a helo pilot. In military scenarios, away from normal port facilities, helos make sense, as Firefinder pointed out. But at regular cargo ports they sure don't. So it comes down to a classic calculation of cost-benefit in various scenarios, just the sort of thing my old group used to do. In fact I was with Boeing's Canard Rotor Wing group when JHL came up, and you should have seen the ugly pig we came up with! :)
Well it wasn't that ugly. Most of the bus drivers I knew thought it rather elegant. ;)

I am not sure a crane would not do well at normal ports, given that the ports are likely targets and most of the stevedores would likely call in sick if war broke out.
 
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