Big Wing Jaguar

[JohnR]

I read in numerous sources that their were proposals for a Big Wing version of Jaguar, but have never seen any details or any images.

Anyone help?

Regards.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Try Flight Archive:

http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/1978/1978%20-%202098.html

 

[LowObservable]

British Aerospace believes that the Jaguar could eventually have a combat performance close to that of the F-16.

Eeeeh bah gum they was putting some good stuff in t'black pudden in t'70s, they was.

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Line drawing from above Flight pdf.

 

[Weaver]

Whether the F-16 comparison is valid or not, it looks like a bloody good idea, and very do-able. Almost all of that except the big wing was eventually done on Jag '95 & '98 post Gulf War and turned them into damned good aircraft. Whatever it did to the turning performance, the big wing would have been welcome simply for the extra pylons: a Jag with two tanks, two Sidewinders, an ALQ-119 and a BOZ pod was left with one pylon for bombs....

 

[Jemiba]

A model photo of the big-wing Jag (sorry, source unknown):

 

[rocketeer]

I remember from my younger days that BAe offered up a Super Jaguar with uprated engines and a bigger wing.
It was about 1978 but all Ive managed to dig up is a page on Flight Archive.
Can anyone else supply any info please ? ???

 

[Hood]

That would be the P.97 from 1976. Jaguar with big wing, composite construction, FBW and either RB.409-07 or Adour 63.
See BSP Fighters for more info.

 

[rocketeer]

Thanks for that.Checked my BSP and found ref to P.97.
I'm interested in building a 1/48 model and would appreciate any images.
There must be more than just the Flight Archive page ?

 

[rocketeer]

Thanks for the replies guys.It is interesting to speculate on just how good this project may have been!

 

[Triton]

Was "Super Jaguar" a name created by Flight International for this design? Or did British Aerospace also call it the Super Jaguar?

 

[alejandrogrossi]

Line drawing from above Flight pdf.

overscan
That big wing, was the wing that the French think to improve the landing performance of the Jaguar M?

 

[Hood]

I think the Super Jag was a different big wing from the proposed Jaguar M big wing.

 

[Archibald]

I think too - it was tailored for the French Navy and the (many) issues it had with landing a Jaguar M on Clems carriers... circa 1971-73 so a bit earlier than the British proposal.

Funny to think both Jaguar and Harrier had a "big wing" variant proposed at the same time.

 

[alejandrogrossi]

I think the Super Jag was a different big wing from the proposed Jaguar M big wing.

Hood
Do you know any drawing about the French wing for the Jaguar M?

 

[Hood]

Do you know any drawing about the French wing for the Jaguar M?

See here: https://www.key.aero/article/seacat

 

[Grey Havoc]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv-1rCTgHAs

 

[MadRat]

I always looked at Jaguar being an Anglo Mirage F1. They opted for twin engines where one could have sufficed. Funny enough the French even bought it.

 

[TomcatViP]

View: https://youtu.be/79UlvvSH_1g?si=52FExrkIAgRFkXEU

 

[ursrius]

I always looked at Jaguar being an Anglo Mirage F1. They opted for twin engines where one could have sufficed. Funny enough the French even bought it.

Well hardly. Remember Jaguar originated as the Breguet 121, before becoming an Anglo-French program. The basic configuration remained as the original Breguet design, with BAC eventually becoming 'prime' for a lot of the design, especially Jaguar International. Mirage, of course, originated with Dassault, so no common heritage.