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XP67_Moonbat said:
Funny how Tempest's planform reminds me of an old AVPRO concept. Give or take a few small differences.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1492.0.html

Well AVPRO was in effect a BAe (later BAE Systems) subsidiary specialising in the creation of advanced concepts, IIRC.
 

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Interesting carrier concept but completely impractical with that layout. Interesting to see just what they were thinking, smoking. The carpet perhaps.
 

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XP67_Moonbat said:
Funny how Tempest's planform reminds me of an old AVPRO concept. Give or take a few small differences.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1492.0.html

it is more similar to concept of Northrop-Grumman's.
 

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Grey Havoc said:
XP67_Moonbat said:
Funny how Tempest's planform reminds me of an old AVPRO concept. Give or take a few small differences.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1492.0.html

Well AVPRO was in effect a BAe (later BAE Systems) subsidiary specialising in the creation of advanced concepts, IIRC.

Really? I never got that impression at all. They were a fantasy art shop that had one semi-plausible idea (the EXINT Pod) that made it to mockup. Their relationship to BAe seems to have been very one-sided -- Mike Ryan claiming there was a relationship and BAe saying nothing at all.

AvPro was definitely not a subsidiary of BAe to any real degree. While they still had a web presence, they had some very dodgy-looking scheme to sell stock in the company direct to investors. If they'd had a financial relationship with BAe, that would not have been on.
 

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That said, I don't think they were treated as anything more than a concept/art generating machine by the industry at the time. I don't think it is a Stavatti type situation. Whilst the detail of their designs are sometimes questionable in hindsight they did have a role to play in the 90s.

If only to bring some energy to the process.
 

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doesn't look like BAe subsidary at all
https://web.archive.org/web/20000529070008/http://www.avpro.co.uk:80/frameset.htm
but Ryan and Oliver input in aerospace popularization is certain
 

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The book Warplanes of the Future written by Ryan and Oliver, published by Motorbooks International (August 1, 2000), that features many of the artist's impressions of AvPro concepts.
 

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Triton said:
The book Warplanes of the Future written by Ryan and Oliver, published by Motorbooks International (August 1, 2000), that features many of the artist's impressions of AvPro concepts.
Was even translated to Russian.
 

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From, X-planes secret aircraft and secret missions
 

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I liked the transport aircraft; there is only a line drawing, the image must be one of the lost one's. It always reminded me of Thunderbird Two.
 

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Funny how what looked plausible in the early 2000's now looks like some teenager's doodling of what a cool fighter would look like.
 

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